DISH Network Reports Third Quarter 2010 Financial Results
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Since the trend is losing net subscribers, no the equipment fees didn't cause anywhere near the churn the naysayers about Dish had kept telling us we would all see.
Dish is still very profitable and is still providing the most national HD channels to those of us not hung up on sports and PPV.
Let me clarify. I am not predicting that dish WILL continue to lose subs, I am commenting on a specific point made by another poster. IF they do continue to lose subs, THEN their profits will also go down.
Usually there is a negative correlation between sub gain and profit. That only occurs up to a certain point. Lose too many subs and the correlation becomes positive
It didn't? Did they not lose subs?And when that prediction doesn't come true, like the last one over the equipment fees didn't, which quarter will you pick then?
...and if the sun don't shine, it won't be bright!
Overall, you are correct. But here's something to mull over. If they lost more of the low-end subs, say all the HD Absolute (for example), it could be argued they would make more profit because they got rid of the lo-ball subscriber, that could be a good thing for Dish.
What does a few Dish haters on THIS site that emotionally predicted worse doom have to do with how good or bad they actually did?
Over the last year they've increased I think, I remember the big deal they made about hitting 14 m around December last year. The two gain quarters were alot bigger than the two loss quarters. Big picture they're doing fine.
The last 4 quarters combined, Dish has gained 438,000 net subs. Yes, during a one year period, they did very well. This was mainly as a result of one very strong quarter during their "Why Pay More?" campaign. Probably correlating with the advertising. If so, it shows that good advertising helps.
When the Q4 report comes out the yearly numbers will not look that good (the actual fiscal year of 2010) as they WILL lose more in Q4 than Q3
Conjecture and conclusion based on patterns and information. I have been right so far. I even predicted they will lose subs this quarter and I said it will be less than 100k
Was going to call in and listen, but then we had a fire in our building on a lower floor and were evacuated for a bit. When I got back up it was already 12:20 to late to call in.
Over 2000 posts by you and you and you are not sure if that post belongs in this thread, the answer is no it has nothing to do with Dish's 3'rd quarter report.
which is why I said "won't have an effect" instead of "didn't have an effect". "Won't" would presume at a later date. If I had wanted or meant to have my statement mean that the FSN takedown had an effect on the 3rd quarter numbers I would have said "then my guess is that FSN's being down for a few weeks didn't have the mass drop effect either."
Looks like Echo7 is starting it's trend...
EchoStar VII. EchoStar VII, which is being used as an in-orbit spare, was designed with four gyros, three of which are required to properly control the positioning of the satellite. During October 2010, EchoStar VII experienced an anomaly which caused one of the gyros to stop functioning. While this anomaly is not expected to reduce the estimated useful life of the satellite to less than 12 years and has not impacted operation of the satellite to date, there can be no assurance that future anomalies will not cause further losses which could impact operation of the satellite.
EchoStar VII. EchoStar VII, which is being used as an in-orbit spare, was designed with four gyros, three of which are required to properly control the positioning of the satellite. During October 2010, EchoStar VII experienced an anomaly which caused one of the gyros to stop functioning. While this anomaly is not expected to reduce the estimated useful life of the satellite to less than 12 years and has not impacted operation of the satellite to date, there can be no assurance that future anomalies will not cause further losses which could impact operation of the satellite.
