Texascowboy you bring up a good point. If consumers and companies have asked Motorola to make available a desktop box (Regardless of price) and it is known that such units do exist (Star Choice), but are being refused to be sold to the US market, and are capable of being type accepted by the FCC, then an argument can be made to the United States Department of Justice by the FCC that anti competitive behavior is taking place. Throw into the fact that Comcast aka HITS is uplinking the signals and is looking for the DOJ to blessing for its purchase of NBS universal it makes perfect sense to let every one know.
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People can only try. That's what i do, even if it goes nowhere. I just feel that with all the time spent on these forums, people could pause every once in a while and write a nice, well based request to different people in government and companies to support our rights for choice and support a video delivery option that so many have invested time and money into. "No person that can or will change this will ever hear a word you say if you only scream to your neighbor about it" We have rights too, that's all i'm saying, and i for one don't feel i'm wasting my time to fight for them, its just my opinion, not trying to start any arguments, i am just trying to do my part, that's all.
Texascowboy
Thank you for your comments, I agree, I have called the people I know, and can think of, but not nearly as many as you, can you give us the address to write to those people, I will write and email my congressmen.
Thanks again
Terry
Thank you for your comments, I agree, I have called the people I know, and can think of, but not nearly as many as you, can you give us the address to write to those people, I will write and email my congressmen.
Thanks again
Terry
I just got on the net and looked up my congressman and senator online. As far as the FCC, i actually looked on their website and called the number at the bottom. The guy i spoke with was real nice, as i was, and said if he hears more they could be filed as complaints in which they would start to investigate, but as of now my comments were added in as concerns and would be reviewed by higher-ups. And writing to the president is just going on to: Contact the White House | The White House, and sending a letter through their site. I have also written the governor of Texas through their website. I am soon to write to Motorola to tell them that i, along with so many others, truly enjoy their system and would like to see it continue. I am sure i will come across some more companies that maybe make sat receives and fta receivers that i will write to to see if anything can spark interest in any new receivers that could renew our aging but still popular equipment. Who knows, maybe someone who already makes receivers will say, what the hay, lets make a combo receiver, name it "4d+t.v." and see how it sells. Well as i said before, it doesn't hurt to try, and if i got time to come here and read, i got time to write a few letters to important people and let them know that its not dead yet and that people are willing to shift back to it if our options were staying open and even growing (as far as channels go). In each of my requests, i just stated that I and so many others only have satellite as an option for our television and are upset that we might soon have no choice on who we pay since the small dish people are almost the same thing(just one big happy monopoly), and this is partly because of the influence the small dish companies have over the program providers. I stated no false facts as i don't want to sound like just a pissed off consumer, i just told what i see and feel and asked for someones help to stand up for us and support our right to have a choice. Any of these people will also have addresses to write a hard copy letter too also. If people in the government hear that we are asking for a voice to stand on our side for us, they might just decide to help in some way. The FCC agreed that even though our numbers are estimated at between 22,000 to 100,000, that should not matter, even small cable companies have those numbers and besides, the signals are all there anyway, we just need a new way to receive them with subscription using the dish we have. It might only be me, but I still feel its worth a try.......not just for me but for everyone still enjoying their c-band equipment. Take care!
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After doing some deep investigating. It appears NPS will be shutting down there G3 channels soon. A date is not set yet. This is what they mean when you call them and they say that you will be loosing channels any day. The rest of the channels on c band are fine which are all the ones SRL/Skyvision provides.
I was talking with a CSR and she was stumbling all over her script as I came up with info she had no answers for.
She actually got frustrated with me since she saw she couldn't pull the wool over my eyes and wanted to terminate the call. Guess she was looking for a sucker to sell dishnet to to get her bounty.
All in all... Bottom line is even though NPS may be closing their doors and G3. C band programming especially with SRL and Skyvision is far from dead.
After doing some deep investigating. It appears NPS will be shutting down there G3 channels soon. A date is not set yet. This is what they mean when you call them and they say that you will be loosing channels any day. The rest of the channels on c band are fine which are all the ones SRL/Skyvision provides.
I was talking with a CSR and she was stumbling all over her script as I came up with info she had no answers for.
She actually got frustrated with me since she saw she couldn't pull the wool over my eyes and wanted to terminate the call. Guess she was looking for a sucker to sell dishnet to to get her bounty.All in all... Bottom line is even though NPS may be closing their doors and G3. C band programming especially with SRL and Skyvision is far from dead.
I have to agree with that. Maybe Mike Kohl of Skyvision can look into that. What upsets me is NPS is helping to destroy c band by giving out false information to all there subscribers with phone calls. Using lies and scare tactics to convert good c band subs to dishnet. The ones who visit this site are informed but those who don't know any better and get called by NPS are in shock. And while there in that state they persuade them to convert.
NPS's tactics remind me of a used car salesman selling that bomb with sawdust in the transmission.
I agree, on one board there are those who say NPS kept C band alive longer then it should have been, I guess we will never know that, but now they are killing it, it would be nice if Skyvision could use the mail, I used to be with Superstars a long time ago, they pulled the same thing, told me the sky was falling and I should convert over to Dish, and I almost did, I called and ordered the equipment, and programming, then in the night I woke up thinking how stupid that is, I called them first thing in the AM and cancelled, took me three months to get my money back, and that was only because I called the credit card co. and told them about it, they put it back on my card.
Then before switching to SRL I was with NPS, now they are doing the same thing.
Seams to me like pigs all feed at the same trough.
Terry
Then before switching to SRL I was with NPS, now they are doing the same thing.
Seams to me like pigs all feed at the same trough.
Terry
Charlie Ergan is behind this he has caused more grief to c banders than anyone else. That guy is pure evil and needs to be stopped. He has destroyed 4 c band companies and took a big chunk of our followers with him. Someday he will run into a brick wall probably when internet tv becomes king and all his pizza dishes will be in the oven with cheese and sausage cooking on them.
Now it seems he'll buy the SatMex satellites from México along with MVS (their partner in Dish México), i guess he is now after the only other C Band that's alive with a lot of channels in Northamerica to fill those sats with their content.
I hope he respects the 100+ FTA channels in those sats (2 with a new one still to come in the next months plus a sat solely used for telephony).
Cheers
Mike
When NPS shuts down their service, couldn't another service pick the channels up? I can see certain channels being "exclusive". However what is "exclusive" about nothing? It seems to me that when NPS shuts down, they will give up those "exclusive" rights. Kinda like a car part that was "exclusive" to the dealer. The dealer goes under and now that "dealer only" part is at all the aftermarket stores. Just a thought.
NPS has no exclusive rights on any channels. They just reuplink them on G3. Anybody can do that. With enough capital you or I could start our own satellite delivery service. The problem is the regular Joe don't have the capital.
:rant:The high pricing, non choice of services, poor picture quality, and contracts are nothing but criminal acts by the pizza dish companies. For some reason people flock to them in droves. Are the American public that stupid? I guess we are lucky that we have an option with our 4dtv's and our buds. I for one will never do anything with pizza than eat it. Direct tv is no better than dish network. They just raised prices again and said this offers consumers more choice. What a crock. As long as the regular Joe keeps feeding these criminals more and more money each month they will keep going on there merry way and get away with it. We need to start a campaign here called Pull The Plug. Pull the plug from pizza and cable today!
Well I don't know what can be done, but I just fired off an e-mail to Fox News. This is a copy of that e-mail.....
Note.... I totally forgot to tell them to check this forum for info. Don't know if that was good or bad. Take care.
I don't know if I will get an answer, but what have I got to loose? Have a great day!
Note.... I totally forgot to tell them to check this forum for info. Don't know if that was good or bad. Take care.
E mail sent to Mike Kohl.
I just sent the following E-mail to Mike Kohl. I hope this can be addressed.
Hi Mike,
We have been talking about ways on Satguys to get the word out about
NPS and converting c band subs to you guys at SRL and Skyvision. Could
you use the 4DTV mailbox to send out a global message to all 4dtv's
telling all subscribers that if you want to continue receiving c band
programming contact you guys. We believe that it would be in the best
interest to keep subscribers that will otherwise be lost by NPS's
games to convert to dishnet. This needs to be done ASAP since NPS is
marketing their lies at an alarming rate. What do you think?
Thanks for your time,
(my name)
TvroPro (Satellite Guys.US)
Let's see what Mike says.
I just sent the following E-mail to Mike Kohl. I hope this can be addressed.
Hi Mike,
We have been talking about ways on Satguys to get the word out about
NPS and converting c band subs to you guys at SRL and Skyvision. Could
you use the 4DTV mailbox to send out a global message to all 4dtv's
telling all subscribers that if you want to continue receiving c band
programming contact you guys. We believe that it would be in the best
interest to keep subscribers that will otherwise be lost by NPS's
games to convert to dishnet. This needs to be done ASAP since NPS is
marketing their lies at an alarming rate. What do you think?
Thanks for your time,
(my name)
TvroPro (Satellite Guys.US)
Let's see what Mike says.
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