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I think these last 2 episodes have been the best so far.

Real scary and full of surprises.

There's just now 1 episode left, and I would be very upset if the series is not given some extra life. :(
 

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It's been actually pretty lame in ratings, this is the 6th or 7th consecutive drop in the demo, and almost the same (except for one slight spike) in the adults segment.

Too bad. at least for me.
I will miss it, too. But it's a gonner, ratings-wise.
 

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Lemme see if I got this straight:
Within the past few years, Alan Wilkis working with Richard Kindred created the AI for Piper, and Emily somehow created a child that looks like her and is biologically indistinguishable from a real human child (as far as a medical doctor and high-tech medical devices are concerned) to house this special AI. And then by some coding quirk or error has powers that would make her one of the most powerful meta-humans or AI robots on TV today.

Yet ... 18 years previously, some secret government agency intercepted a communication involving a supposed super weapon, and based on that were able to craft Helen 2.0, a fully self-aware AI in a realistic, aging human body who went rogue, killed her creators (except Helen 1.0), and created an army of possibly thousands of human-looking AIs. These equally realistic, biologically speaking, AI robots have been since living everyday lives and are programmed to carry out some specified missions only to be later terminated once their mission was complete. The final step is to upload all the data they collected as part of their respective missions with the help of a giant magnetic blob, leaving not an insignificant trail of evidence if someone knew what to look for or simply got suspicious when thousands of "people" began floating in the air and then all expired at exactly the same moment.

So ... how exactly is Piper, created more recently by Kindred/Wilkis/Emily, part of this AI army created by Helen 2.0? (We saw her floating just like Benny until the upload got interrupted). In other words, what's the connection between Helen 2.0 and Kindred/Wilkis/Emily? Was Wilkis a rogue AI of the rogue AI? I remember him having some weird thing where he had to take a lot of showers.
 

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Lemme see if I got this straight:
Within the past few years, Alan Wilkis working with Richard Kindred created the AI for Piper, and Emily somehow created a child that looks like her and is biologically indistinguishable from a real human child (as far as a medical doctor and high-tech medical devices are concerned) to house this special AI. And then by some coding quirk or error has powers that would make her one of the most powerful meta-humans or AI robots on TV today.

Yet ... 18 years previously, some secret government agency intercepted a communication involving a supposed super weapon, and based on that were able to craft Helen 2.0, a fully self-aware AI in a realistic, aging human body who went rogue, killed her creators (except Helen 1.0), and created an army of possibly thousands of human-looking AIs. These equally realistic, biologically speaking, AI robots have been since living everyday lives and are programmed to carry out some specified missions only to be later terminated once their mission was complete. The final step is to upload all the data they collected as part of their respective missions with the help of a giant magnetic blob, leaving not an insignificant trail of evidence if someone knew what to look for or simply got suspicious when thousands of "people" began floating in the air and then all expired at exactly the same moment.

So ... how exactly is Piper, created more recently by Kindred/Wilkis/Emily, part of this AI army created by Helen 2.0? (We saw her floating just like Benny until the upload got interrupted). In other words, what's the connection between Helen 2.0 and Kindred/Wilkis/Emily? Was Wilkis a rogue AI of the rogue AI? I remember him having some weird thing where he had to take a lot of showers.
With what we know now, I suspect that Wilkis, as you say, could have been a rogue AI,, within the rogue AI.

IMHO real scary stuff, has been shown, imagine that world, where most of the population is not aware of this thing, and your regular UPS man, the cashier at Walmart are all AI's.....mm kinda scary
 

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One interesting thing I happened to remember ...
Back when Jo found out that Piper was an AI, she was told by someone, Emily I think to NOT tell her she was an AI, and that it would ruin or end her life ...
Almost like she would self destruct.
If thats the case, why are all the other AI's not Self Destructing ?
They Clearly know they are AI's.
 
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I glanced at Carter Matt's column on Emergence and spoilers for next episode, (no spoilers here) but he talks as if a season 2 were already confirmed, which has not happened.

So, having said that, next episode could possibly be the last one. ever.

I just wish that Piper would have the super-powers to keep the show alive.
 

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With what we know now, I suspect that Wilkis, as you say, could have been a rogue AI,, within the rogue AI.

IMHO real scary stuff, has been shown, imagine that world, where most of the population is not aware of this thing, and your regular UPS man, the cashier at Walmart are all AI's.....mm kinda scary
Speaking of rogue AI living among us, if you are interested in exploring the idea further and haven't seen it yet, there's an excellent British TV series called "Humans." It ran for three seasons, all of which are available for free for Amazon Prime members. Here's a trailer for the first season:
 
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Released few hours ago, from an interview with Juan Alfonso one of the exec producers of Emergence:

AX: Do you have a good feeling about a Season 2 pickup?

ALFONSO: I have a good feeling about a pickup. But it is television – you never know.
 

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Speaking of rogue AI living among us, if you are interested in exploring the idea further and haven't seen it yet, there's an excellent British TV series called "Humans." It ran for three seasons, all of which are available for free for Amazon Prime members. Here's a trailer for the first season:]
Thanks for that, I started watching the first episode,

I really find the idea, if that were a real thing, truly spooky.
 
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Speaking of rogue AI living among us, if you are interested in exploring the idea further and haven't seen it yet, there's an excellent British TV series called "Humans." It ran for three seasons, all of which are available for free for Amazon Prime members. Here's a trailer for the first season:
I've watched the first 2 episodes and I'm hooked already, real scary stuff.

I have to compare with the AI's on Emergence and the Piper kind are truly sophisticated, organic so they don't have any batteries that require charging.

I understand that Piper and her kind would eat just normal food, and therefore even have the digestive process. etc,
 

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I've watched the first 2 episodes and I'm hooked already, real scary stuff.

I have to compare with the AI's on Emergence and the Piper kind are truly sophisticated, organic so they don't have any batteries that require charging.

I understand that Piper and her kind would eat just normal food, and therefore even have the digestive process. etc,
That's one thing Emergence hasn't properly addressed yet: how the AIs are so biologically realistic. In "Humans" and HBO's "Westworld," they show "what's under the hood" fairly early on and offer some kind of explanation as to how the technology got so advanced (i.e., backstories of the companies and inventors involved).
 

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That's one thing Emergence hasn't properly addressed yet: how the AIs are so biologically realistic. In "Humans" and HBO's "Westworld," they show "what's under the hood" fairly early on and offer some kind of explanation as to how the technology got so advanced (i.e., backstories of the companies and inventors involved).
Right, on Emergence I had the impression that if the AI's are so "humanly organic" then what's to prevent them from having a reproductive system, so that they can reproduce themselves. ...:confused:
 

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Speaking of rogue AI living among us, if you are interested in exploring the idea further and haven't seen it yet, there's an excellent British TV series called "Humans." It ran for three seasons, all of which are available for free for Amazon Prime members. Here's a trailer for the first season:
Yes another good show that AMC and BBC America canceled.:mad:
 
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Released few hours ago, from an interview with Juan Alfonso one of the exec producers of Emergence:

AX: Do you have a good feeling about a Season 2 pickup?

ALFONSO: I have a good feeling about a pickup. But it is television – you never know.
The only way this show is going to be renewed is for people like you and others to write the network(ABC) and ask to have it renewed or to have it shopped around to other networks. The ratings are what is killing this show.
 

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