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[osu1991]

America’s Fastest-Growing EV State Isn’t California—Not by a Long Shot

New data shows electric vehicle adoption is increasingly driven by state policies, electricity prices and charging access—not federal incentives

www.autoweek.com

The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.





It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.

 

[harshness]

Oklahoma is #3 in wind power generation, with wind contributing around 62% of its grid power. Once known as a champion of petroleum, they seem to be all in on getting away from it.

 

[osu1991]

Yep, drive to western Oklahoma and the windmills are in abundance. Eastern Oklahoma has n abundance of hydro.

 

[Arctic_fox]

hope they charge up in the winter

 

[harshness]

hope they charge up in the winter

Wind is almost always present in Oklahoma.

 

[Arctic_fox]

Wind is almost always present in Oklahoma.

heat and cold effect the batteries

 

[osu1991]

heat and cold effect the batteries

Very little in Oklahoma. Haven't noticed much of any difference on either of mine during the winter or in 99-100F temps with high humidityd dew points over the weekend.


Go troll elsewhere

 

[osu1991]

Wind is almost always present in Oklahoma.

6.5 out of 7 days a week.

 

[navychop]

hope they charge up in winter

heat and cold effect the batteries

Ask the Norwegians why they buy so many EVs.

 

[harshness]

heat and cold effect the batteries

Extreme cold does, but some modern batteries have internal heaters.

 

[Arctic_fox]

Very little in Oklahoma. Haven't noticed much of any difference on either of mine during the winter or in 99-100F temps with high humidityd dew points over the weekend.


Go troll elsewhere

go on youtube and look at some of the people that there teslas wouldn't charge up in winter in places like NY and shitcago

 

[Arctic_fox]

Extreme cold does, but some modern batteries have internal heaters.

i think lithium batteries are starting or will be phased out for something else

 

[Arctic_fox]

Ask the Norwegians why they buy so many EVs.

that would be interesting considering people in places like NY and shitcago had issues with charging em in winter

 

[navychop]

Might tell you more about those claims than anything else.

 

[meStevo]

go on youtube and look at some of the people that there teslas wouldn't charge up in winter in places like NY and shitcago

Incredible claims require incredible proof - cite something rather than point at a website of many billions of videos and lazily claim 'my proof is there!'

Reduced effectiveness? Sure, perhaps to some degree, but a complete nonfactor to the vast majority of drivers.

'Wouldn't charge' ? Nope. Not without other exceptional circumstances impacting the vehicle or charger.

As a reminder - you're trying to preach pretty clearly wrong information to a bunch of people with first hand day-to-day experience - perhaps consider it an opportunity to understand why you thought this was true rather than double/triple down on being wrong because... 'youtube said it'.

 

[Ronnie-]

heat and cold effect the batteries

Not nearly as much as you might seem to believe.

We have swapped to all EVs, and the south miss heat hasnt impacted our range. While I dont have a massive amount of experience with extreme cold temps, we did have several days in the teens (wind chills in the single digits) the last two winters. Yes, range was impacted somewhat, but it wasnt an amount to where it would impact your experience with the car.

 

[harshness]

i think lithium batteries are starting or will be phased out for something else

Sodium-ion batteries being tested by a large commercial trucking operation in China are supposed to be good (90% capacity) down to -40F. Charge times are pretty impressive as well. Battery life is claimed at 8,000 fast-charge cycles.

 

[Ronnie-]

I would like to point out that cold weather impacts ICE vehicles efficiency as well (15-20% by most internet sources ive seen). Its just that most drivers are used to it, and likely dont give it a second thought as it really isnt all that damning on your day to day driving (much like an EV).

One perk of an EV, I can have my vehicle already warmed up using power from the grid rather than the batteries themselves. So you dont get that initial hit to get things comfortable versus idling to warmup with a combustion engine, which definitely uses the fuel on board with no way around that.

 

[meStevo]

Out of Spec launching a service to help people buy cars and defray some of the frustration / annoyance / time commitment of dealing w/ a dealership.

Here is a summary of the video Buying A Car Sucks - We Are Going To Change That:

Overview

Kyle and his father Dave from Out of Spec Reviews announce the launch of Out of Spec Deals, a car-buyer negotiation service designed to take the stress, time commitment, and hidden dealer markups out of purchasing or leasing a new or used vehicle [00:56 Opens in a new window ].

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Key Takeaways

• The Problem with Car Buying: Direct-to-consumer models (like Tesla or Rivian) offer simple online purchasing, but buying traditional legacy brand vehicles through dealerships often involves deceptive pricing, high turnover sales reps, and stressful negotiations [09:17 Opens in a new window ].
• Buyer-Centric Model: Traditional auto brokers are often compensated by dealerships, creating conflicting incentives. Out of Spec Deals strictly represents the buyer and will never accept money or kickbacks from dealerships [05:33 Opens in a new window ], [08:11 Opens in a new window ].
• How the Service Works:
  
  • Customers come to the service knowing the car model and specs they want to buy [16:30 Opens in a new window ].
  • The Out of Spec Deals team searches, contacts multiple dealerships, negotiates prices, eliminates unfair dealer add-ons, and arranges the final deal [03:54 Opens in a new window ].
  • The customer simply shows up to sign paperwork and pick up the vehicle [04:25 Opens in a new window ].
• Flat Fee & Pricing: The service currently charges a flat fee of $500 [14:43 Opens in a new window ].
• Client & Dealer Portals: They are launching a website featuring transparent tracking for buyers and a dealer portal where honest dealerships can bid on deals in real time [20:01 Opens in a new window ].

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Contact Information

• Inquiries / Hiring: To work with them or submit a car request, contact Dave directly via email at Dave@OutofSpecStudios.com [16:06 Opens in a new window ].
  
  
  View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPeROkge2eA
  
  

 

[osu1991]

Chevy and Cadillac scale back EV plans as GM shifts to gas

Chevrolet is the second most popular EV brand in the US behind Tesla, while Cadillac carved out a market in...

electrek.co

GM just setting themselves up to fall further behind foreign auto groups