Hopper EHD Indexing Issue

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Since 2 and 3 TB HDDs used to be inexpensive (before the current AI boom), I use an offline disk drive cloner to make backup copies of my Dish EHDs. About once every couple of months, I take the live set out of their enclosures and clone them to the same size drives. I then put the new clones back in the enclosures and plug them into the Hopper. This proves the backups are good and balances the usage on the drives.
 
That works as long as you want to keep them all the same. In my case, I started out with one EHD, then two, then... and so my categories for each EHD had become a mess. So copying them at the file level also allowed sorting EHDs back into specific categories.

Oh how I miss the old pre-data center/AI storage prices.
 
That works as long as you want to keep them all the same. In my case, I started out with one EHD, then two, then... and so my categories for each EHD had become a mess. So copying them at the file level also allowed sorting EHDs back into specific categories.

Oh how I miss the old pre-data center/AI storage prices.
looked at an m.2 drive and just about fell out of my chair!!! freaking AI :biggrin :coco :eek:
 
I reported the same thing a few months ago with the same response from everyone. The thing is, I could swear that in the past (more than a year ago), I was able to see all my recordings, much greater than the 570 we can see now. And Dish crows that the Hopper can support up to 20TB of external storage! What's the point if you have to connect a dozen small disks? it's so stupid and I am convinced it a bug that was added a number of software releases ago. But, as other have stated, Dish doesn't give a crap. I had a 3TB drive (not large by today's standard) that was about 60% full. I added a second 2TB drive and it took many days to transfer half of my recordings to the 2nd drive. It's a royal pain in the butt because you have to move them to the Hopper first, and then to the other drive. What makes it worse, if you select more than 3 or 4 recordings at a time, the Hopper gives up with an error and you have to do a reboot to continue. Their support for EHDs is garbage. My old Vip 722K was much more robust, even though it only supported up to a 2TB drive.
There can be other reasons it doesn't show all the recordings even if one had less than the 999 limit. When I had the Hopper 1 since November 2012, the Samsung 2TB 3.5" HDD worked fine from a docking station after moving the internal recordings but when plugged into the Hopper 3 when I upgraded in February 2016, it would also show only a partial amount of recordings which was less than 200 and I could not playback anything as it would return the error message box wth "spindle sleeping" or something like that. I did not transfer it to the Hopper 3 either since basically what I did was clone the drive on the computer using the docking station to another 2TB Western Digital 3.5" HDD which used a USB to EIDE/SATA adapter cable and both drives would work correctly on the Hopper 3 so a lot of times, it could be the controller that sits between the actual HDD and the USB that could be the issue. When I did transfers to newer 2.5" Portable 2TB HDDs, I had the same issues with only doing 3-4 recordings at a time and sometimes the recordings has a error and no longer works and could no longer be copied. The 20TB is with 3 HDD's maximum which means 6.66TB maximum each, I guess the 666 cursed it. This is something you cannot complain to the FCC about since DISH will only be liable for the programming they provide and equipment provided by them which would exclude third party remotes and HDDs. The OTA Tuners are DISH branded equipment. Even if they supported HDDs, it would be hard because you have to think about how many different HDD's there are and also the controller combinations along with the firmware available.
 
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Here's a thread with an official answer:


And the official answer is: "It probably has some limit, although we do not know what that limit is" :p
The simple fix is just set the limit to 9999, basically one more digit. The other million dollar question is how many recordings as a maximum can be seen with the internal HD on the Hopper 3.
 
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Dish has the following webpage about EHD storage: External Hard Drive Support

I have a Hopper 3 so the limits are 7 TB for 1 EHD and 6 TB for multiple EHD's per Dish's website. There probably is a program tile display limitation that is causing a problem for some people. I currently have 265 program tiles and over 2,000 programs stored on my attached 4 TB EHD so the 999 program limitation does not exist for the Hopper 3. My EHD is USB powered by the H3, since Dish does not state the need for an EHD to have an external power source.
 
Here's a thread with an official answer:


And the official answer is: "It probably has some limit, although we do not know what that limit is" :p
999 events to display.
Been stated before a few times
 
Maybe you can't but there are many, many users who load up much more that 2 TB. That is why there is a need to have EHDs to begin with. The Hopper 3 has 2TB built in.
What I mean, is you can't fill up a 2TB EHD and see all your recordings. My 3TB was 60% full but it would never display everything. Maxes out to about 750 display icons. That is the problem. It's a display limit that should not be there. If I can record it and save it on the EHD, I should able to see it, plain and simple.
 
The display limit seems to be 750 for each EHD. There is certainly not a 999 recording limit as I have at least 1200 recording split between two EHD, not including the recordings on the Hopper's internal drive.
How is the 750 counted? Does it count what is visible to the eye like I will make up examples:

the main screen says:

Title A with 50
Title B with 50

Would that count as 2 or would that count as 100?
 
How is the 750 counted? Does it count what is visible to the eye like I will make up examples:

the main screen says:

Title A with 50
Title B with 50

Would that count as 2 or would that count as 100?
It's the number of icons, not recordings. A tv show with multiple episodes recorded is still a single icon. Same with two movies with the same title. The Recordings display shows 4 rows of 5 icons, 20 per page. When I could not see all my recordings (I knew this by alphabetical sorting), I I counted a page at a time until I could not page anymore and that is how I came up with the 750 number (give or take a couple as neither of my two EHDs are at the max right now and I don't remember the exact number, but it's close enough). This is a display issue, not a recording problem.
 

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