How do I use a satallite dish as a UHF antenna?

ken2400

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I would like use a satellite dish as a UHF antenna.
I have old Primestar dishes, 18" dishes, offset Ku dish 36", C band 6' dish.
I was thinking of putting a bow tie antenna at the focal point.

I have one set of channels I want to get so this being directional is not big deal.

Anyone have any ideas?
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ken2400

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Found one of theses antennas xium antenna "dish looking"
xium dish looking one
About 20"
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harshness

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Dishes have never been the reflector of choice for OTA TV but some think they look cool so they dummy something up.

Radio Shack (and by extension, probably RCA) used to hide a UHF loop inside something that looked like a small plastic satellite dish on one of their indoor antennas. Other antennas had the dish but no loop.

The wavelength of channel 14 is a little over 25".
 

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Radio Shack (and by extension, probably RCA) used to hide a UHF loop inside something that looked like a small plastic satellite dish on one of their indoor antennas.

I couldn't find a picture of that one. But this one is reminiscent of the wankel rotor! Kind of cool. Indoor HDTV & FM Radio Antenna I thought Radio Shack was completely dead and gone.

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harshness

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While not the specific one that I was thinking of (it had kind of a Death Star pattern of raised bumps), here are some other examples.

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I'm not sure what these are supposed to represent. It looks like they outfitted the dish with divining rods to make some sort of dipole.
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907TECH

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These dish looking indoor antennas are a joke. They are not dishes, just toys that make some people think they have secret sauce. Give up on the satellite dish idea, I suggest a conventional aluminum outdoor antenna with decent gain.
 

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Channel Master made such an antenna, called the Parascope UHF antenna.

The reflector was very large (like 5-6 ft across) and two bow tie elements were placed at the focal point with a small reflector behind them to block direct reception of signal.

These antennas were very good, but not better than yagis by enough to make them commercially viable.

Comparing a Dish reflector at 1.5 ft diameter with an antenna 4 times the diameter (1/7th the surface area) that was perhaps 3 dB better than the best yagi tells me your Dish reflector antenna would be a poor performer compared to $50 antennas available today.
 

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Another problem with parabolic UHF antennas is that they offer the most gain on higher frequencies, which no longer exist. They did make sense many years ago, not today. They had to be 6 feet or larger in size. When the 8 bay UHF antennas became more popular it was found they were as good or better than the parabolics, making dishes pretty much obsolete.
 

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