How things have changed

[John2021]

can't wait to get our roku ultimates in the mail tomorrow.. that should be fun!!! better streaming boxes are coming out that support wifi 6. yttv has been smooth and flawless for us . i remember trying directv now when they were giving the apple t.v. away. i can't even say what an utter disater that was crashing all the time and buffering...

 

[navychop]

I am happy with my Roku Ultra. I note that my TV, AVR and the Ultra seem to take the better part of a minute to finish handshaking. Not sure who's the culprit.

 

[ncted]

can't wait to get our roku ultimates in the mail tomorrow.. that should be fun!!! better streaming boxes are coming out that support wifi 6. yttv has been smooth and flawless for us . i remember trying directv now when they were giving the apple t.v. away. i can't even say what an utter disater that was crashing all the time and buffering...

Weird. I never had any issues with DirecTV Now and the Apple TV.

 

[dishdude]

Just be patient. Streaming is becoming pretty cable-esque. Ads, live sports, reality TV, consolidation, big price increases, bit-starved picture quality, etc. Pretty soon, there will be no meaningful difference.

Yep, they just cut the middleman out.

 

[John2021]

I am happy with my Roku Ultra. I note that my TV, AVR and the Ultra seem to take the better part of a minute to finish handshaking. Not sure who's the culprit.

do you have the model with the wifi 6 and backlit remote

 

[navychop]

Havta check when I return next week.

 

[John2021]

Havta check when I return next week.

k

 

[John2021]

Havta check when I return next week.

our ultra remote will turn the tv on but won't turn it off

 

[navychop]

do you have the model with the wifi 6 and backlit remote

Yes to both. Roku Ultra 4850.

Everything gets turned on via HDMI CEC.

 

[John2021]

Yes to both. Roku Ultra 4850.

Everything gets turned on via HDMI CEC.

ah ok then we love the new roku. it's blazing fast no slow load times or buffering . i think i turned the CEC off will have to check. though the dtv remote would shut the tv and the box off the roku remote won't it justs turns them on. bought 3 more for sunday ticket

 

[ncted]

CEC might fix your problem or it might not, and it might create other problems. It is a poorly implemented "standard." I have an Insignia TV that will turn on with CEC, but not turn off.

 

[John2021]

CEC might fix your problem or it might not, and it might create other problems. It is a poorly implemented "standard." I have an Insignia TV that will turn on with CEC, but not turn off.

we have sonys and every other remote will turn it off other than the roku. i think i'll try to re pair em later on. i'll have to go into settings and make sure everything is as it should be also.

 

[ncted]

we have sonys and every other remote will turn it off other than the roku. i think i'll try to re pair em later on. i'll have to go into settings and make sure everything is as it should be also.

I have CEC disabled on two of my three Sonys due to issues. I use sideclick remote add-ons to give me a few extra programmable buttons to do the things that don't happen automatically because CEC is off:

Sideclick Remotes Universal Remote Attachment for Streaming

Sideclick Remotes Universal Remote Attachment for Streaming. Accessories for Roku, Apple TV, Amazon Fire TV, and Chromecast

www.sideclickremotes.com

It is a hack, but it is reliable once my wife got used to it.

 

[Bruce]

Now team owned RSNs are starting to shut down, ROOT is going bye bye.

Mariners shutting down ROOT Sports network, broadcasting to be run by MLB

The Mariners are shutting down the main broadcasting network for the team, according to two sources at ROOT Sports.

komonews.com

The main reason, cord cutting, not enough subscribers paying the per sub fee-

The decline in ROOT Sports' subscriber base has been stark. In 2014, the network boasted 3.3 million subscribers, but by 2024, that number had plummeted to just 1.2 million.

 

[MartyDe]

How things have changed for us. My wife is a huge UCONN women's basketball fan. In past seasons we tried to leave cable and went to Hulu because they carried SNY, an RSN, that had many UCONN games. Well my wife hated the steps to get to Hulu, and to actually use it to get to channels. So we are now back to cable, which is fine with me. I want her to be able to easily select what she wants to view.
So now the Big East has media rights to the games. This season SNY is out and we will need the following. NBC Sports Boston, WWAX (local station),ESPN, FS1, truTV, Peacock, FOX, ESPN2, and TNT. That's eight different places to see games. With cable we can get some games. Join Peacock, maybe, but doubtful.
So the college sports business will loose a few viewers. Doen't matter because the bucks will contine to roll in.
Yes we are old, over 80. I know when you mention cable that question comes up.

 

[ncted]

How things have changed for us. My wife is a huge UCONN women's basketball fan. In past seasons we tried to leave cable and went to Hulu because they carried SNY, an RSN, that had many UCONN games. Well my wife hated the steps to get to Hulu, and to actually use it to get to channels. So we are now back to cable, which is fine with me. I want her to be able to easily select what she wants to view.
So now the Big East has media rights to the games. This season SNY is out and we will need the following. NBC Sports Boston, WWAlocal station),ESPN, FS1, truTV, Peacock, FOX, ESPN2, and TNT. That's eight different places to see games. With cable we can get some games. Join Peacock, maybe, but doubtful.
So the college sports business will loose a few viewers. Doen't matter because the bucks will contine to roll in.
Yes we are old, over 80. I know when you mention cable that question comes up.

I get it. My parents in their 80s didn't really want to switch from Spectrum Cable to YTTV, but the 45% cost savings (at the time) made it worth their while to learn how to cope with the changes.

 

[savarese04]

Now team owned RSNs are starting to shut down, ROOT is going bye bye.

Mariners shutting down ROOT Sports network, broadcasting to be run by MLB

The Mariners are shutting down the main broadcasting network for the team, according to two sources at ROOT Sports.

komonews.com

The main reason, cord cutting, not enough subscribers paying the per sub fee-

The decline in ROOT Sports' subscriber base has been stark. In 2014, the network boasted 3.3 million subscribers, but by 2024, that number had plummeted to just 1.2 million.

this just makes smart sense. with everyone pushing the RSNs to higher tiers, why operate a station separately? They are combining with MLB who is successfully managing production for a few other teams (like the Padres) already. Economies of scale here mean more teams will do the same, especially those that own baseball only RSNs.

The ones that have multiple teams will take a little longer, but it will eventually happen.

 

[glrush]

YouTube TV Standoff With NBC Is a Warning Shot to the Industry

Good luck in the next round, all channel providers.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[Bruce]

Shows how much local TV has fallen-

Local TV Has Lost More than Half of Its Media Spending Market Share Since 2017

Local TV accounted for only 6% of total media spending through June 2025, down from 13% in 2017, according to Guideline

www.tvtechnology.com

 

[Bruce]

Tivo drops DVRs-

TiVo Stops Selling DVRs Marking The End Of An Era | Cord Cutters News

In a seismic shift for the television industry, TiVo Corporation has quietly pulled the plug on its storied digital video recorder line, effectively ending an era that redefined how consumers interacted with broadcast content. As of early October 2025, the company’s official website has scrubbed...

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