Interesting find tonight

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Ok, this isn't anything really fantastic, but some of you are going to be highly interested in this subject.

After chatting (posting) with MrFTAMan and thinking about his situation, I tried to use my AZBox Premium Plus receiver as a guinea pig and check out what I could do with DiSEqC 1.2 motor controls.

Although I did not find anything really interesting with that specific topic, I did stumble upon something else that grabbed my attention.

Amazonas 2!

I had been monitoring this satellite for a while, since it has a FTA promo channel going that is, well, informative. So I was experimenting with it and decided to blind scan it again. I have done this in the recent past, but only scanned for the FTA channels. This time, I just allowed it to scan for ALL channels.

Yep, it found some! All scrambled channels mind you, but that is not the interesting item that I am referring to. I just thought that maybe, these channels were loosely protected, maybe they were semi-open??? So, I just randomly clicked on a few of them and guess what I observed?

They have a channel guide! It displays what is on now, in progress, what show is coming up, etc. And if you click on the show, it provides the description of the show.

i.e.:

Unidad de Victimas Especiales
Drama de Crimen Starring Christopher Meloni, Mariska Hargitay.
Richard Belzer, Dann Floek, Ice-T. Una unidad especial de Nueva
York investigata casos altroces


What is "cool" about this is that the AZBox displays this information automatically. I don't have any special plug-ins or other programs installed.

The most I have ever seen on my guide page was the indication that a wild feed was "CURRENT" and that was about the extent of anything that was shown.

Now, I can see that if the satellite does broadcast an EPG, the AZBox can display it well.

If you wish to check it out, it is Amazonas 2 @ 61.0°W, TP 12052MHz, SR 28885Ks, polarity H. Unfortunately the channels are scrambled, but it is still rather neat to see.

If you wish to view the promo channel, use TP 11810MHz, H, SR 27500

RADAR
 
Well Radar , on AMC 21 @ 125W you get the same with the Claro TV channels , all encrypted but with full EPG. Also DW-NA on 91W or close I think (and some other european channells on other birds as well? has full descriptive details and they even work for up to a week! Like you say it just works automatically. Now if Opensat could make the old plain Line 21 CC work on the Azbox that would be amaizing then!, lol.

BTW , that EPG you copy/pasted although detailed it had several mispelled words and I quote, Una unidad especial de Nueva
York investigata casos altroces

It should have been written , Una unidad especial de Nueva York investigará casos atroces

I , pedantely if you will, point this out since it is a Latin American based service therefore Spanish is the mother tongue therefore unacceptable to allow. Unfortunaelly to lower costs the use of grammar correctors or specialist is rare this days on almost any written media. Allow me to point out as well that one of the few spanish exceptions still are the subtitle service on the foreing language made programming (mostly USA made) on the Cuban TV with the perfect example (well the service itself is not so perfect either but way better than the average out there) the Cubavision movies. At the begining if the subtitle service was made in Cuba you will see a secreen listing the names of the 3 specialists involved doing the subtitles and as always have been and I will even say, continue to be, the team is always comprised of an english translator, a spanish corrector and a third person whose title I do not remember now (maybe the censorship guy pretending to be the typewritter lol). If the movie was "obtained" already subtitled then they show a screen apologizing for the grammar errors.
 
Ok, this isn't anything really fantastic, but some of you are going to be highly interested in this subject.

After chatting (posting) with MrFTAMan and thinking about his situation, I tried to use my AZBox Premium Plus receiver as a guinea pig and check out what I could do with DiSEqC 1.2 motor controls.

Although I did not find anything really interesting with that specific topic, I did stumble upon something else that grabbed my attention.

Amazonas 2!

I had been monitoring this satellite for a while, since it has a FTA promo channel going that is, well, informative. So I was experimenting with it and decided to blind scan it again. I have done this in the recent past, but only scanned for the FTA channels. This time, I just allowed it to scan for ALL channels.

Yep, it found some! All scrambled channels mind you, but that is not the interesting item that I am referring to. I just thought that maybe, these channels were loosely protected, maybe they were semi-open??? So, I just randomly clicked on a few of them and guess what I observed?

They have a channel guide! It displays what is on now, in progress, what show is coming up, etc. And if you click on the show, it provides the description of the show.

i.e.:

Unidad de Victimas Especiales
Drama de Crimen Starring Christopher Meloni, Mariska Hargitay.
Richard Belzer, Dann Floek, Ice-T. Una unidad especial de Nueva
York investigata casos altroces


What is "cool" about this is that the AZBox displays this information automatically. I don't have any special plug-ins or other programs installed.

The most I have ever seen on my guide page was the indication that a wild feed was "CURRENT" and that was about the extent of anything that was shown.

Now, I can see that if the satellite does broadcast an EPG, the AZBox can display it well.

If you wish to check it out, it is Amazonas 2 @ 61.0°W, TP 12052MHz, SR 28885Ks, polarity H. Unfortunately the channels are scrambled, but it is still rather neat to see.

If you wish to view the promo channel, use TP 11810MHz, H, SR 27500

RADAR

Great info Radar, just did a double check to make sure Amazonas was on my newly created 46 Sat List and there it was Amazonas 1/2, now I just have to install it.
 
It displays what is on now, in progress, what show is coming up, etc. And if you click on the show, it provides the description of the show.

i.e.:

Unidad de Victimas Especiales
Drama de Crimen Starring Christopher Meloni, Mariska Hargitay.
Richard Belzer, Dann Floek, Ice-T. Una unidad especial de Nueva
York investigata casos altroces


What is "cool" about this is that the AZBox displays this information automatically. I don't have any special plug-ins or other programs installed.

The most I have ever seen on my guide page was the indication that a wild feed was "CURRENT" and that was about the extent of anything that was shown.

Now, I can see that if the satellite does broadcast an EPG, the AZBox can display it well.
RADAR

I had seen this on some scan I did when going over towards 125*W as well, don't remember where it was at the moment.
In speaking to a satellite uplinker about a month ago trying to figure out why their pid info was being transmitted differently then what the receivers were showing we talked a bit on some things and it appears that the newer equipment they use can do this but some of the older stuff does not. This person remarked that the equipment they had could not even put out a channel id, but when they install their new equipment in the future it will be able to handle that as well as program info if they set it up properly.

Since the azbox was basically designed for Europe where they are ahead of the game then here this has been available to them for awhile now.
 
It amaze me on how far advance Europe is with their FTA system. Way ahead of the USA! I really am jealous on the far advanced FTA receivers they use and the free programming available. I imagine it is fascinating to watch their receivers light up with one channel after another during the blindscanning. I would be eating popcorn and drinking pop while watching the list of channels zooming on the TV screen. LOL
 
North America Satellites?

amazonas ku @ 61 has been active for months...

only ITC channels are a promo channel and coptic tv

With my 90cm reflector, I am possibly missing out on a lot of satellites. On ku band, I have never tried to get amazonas! Today, I read that 85 degrees west had channels on it. I tried to get it; however, it indicated on blind scan [Azbox HD Premium Plus] that it found 16 transponders; however, when it came time to put them in either television or radio, nothing came up? ? ?
 

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