Went to the other side of the tracks to see what was happening - most of the eye patch guys receivers have quit working as of 3 PM Pacific time today. 
N3 is working!
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N3 working as of now will help flood the market with used FTA receivers. May see a bunch turning up in thrift stores like I see direct receivers and be able to pick them up for a song. The flip side of it is Charlie Im sure will raise the prices on dish subs because people will be forced to buy now. It may actually help the c band market because of our lower prices.
From what I read, there was an ECM yesterday.
But the fact still remains that the eyepatch crowd still has nothing viewable on N3 yet.
All methods that "work" against N3 so far require some sort of subscription to B* and D*N*
So I reiterate, they've got nothin'
Too bad it's gonna be circa June 12th before all the rest of the SD stuff goes N3.
D* seems to be running 2 weeks late on their N3 switchover targets.
Charlie already has some of the most expensive subs IMO, but that's another discussion for another section.
As for receivers, the IKS boxes are going to stay high priced. (I want to play with them for their ethernet port
)Viewsat and Sonicview have Full softCAM's so they'll be high priced 'til N2 is fully switched off.
Coolsat HD boxes are most likely to be the first HD boxes with dropping prices.
All of the other Coolsat boxes should be easy pickings now.
yeah, I was gonna come back and post that I didn't see where N3 was in widespread use yet. But did see that they seem to have inside info on the premiums possibly going to N3 this week. Guess we'll see then.
N3 Fix advertisement
I just noticed... I was logged into the forums here, and was away from my desk for awhile. When I returned to my desk my session was logged out of Satelliteguys.us, from the time-out.
Right at the top of the screen, above the "Satellite guys sponsors" was a red bannerer-ad, "N3 fix available...May x" advertisement bar. Does this not seem hypocritical? Was this some mistake? There is "no hack talk" posted everywhere on the forums, and on the site, but if if means advertising dollars, we'll display the advert?
Did anyone else notice this? I've never noticed that before.
I just noticed... I was logged into the forums here, and was away from my desk for awhile. When I returned to my desk my session was logged out of Satelliteguys.us, from the time-out.
Right at the top of the screen, above the "Satellite guys sponsors" was a red bannerer-ad, "N3 fix available...May x" advertisement bar. Does this not seem hypocritical? Was this some mistake? There is "no hack talk" posted everywhere on the forums, and on the site, but if if means advertising dollars, we'll display the advert?
Did anyone else notice this? I've never noticed that before.
It's an automated (google I believe) ad, scott has worked in the past to keep those types of google ads from appearing through the service, but some have slipped through in the past.
It was disappointing to read that Dish did not switch the ppv's to N3 for the Pacquiao Hatton fight, I would sue them if I was Bob Arum, that fight could have made history in ppv buy's, it still did vary well but...
We can hope Dish switches everything this month, atleast the damn ppv's, because not even iks can get the ppv's once they are switched.
We can hope Dish switches everything this month, atleast the damn ppv's, because not even iks can get the ppv's once they are switched.
Next time get the URL of the ad, and post it in the Operations forum that way we can remove it from the site
Next time get the URL of the ad, and post it in the Operations forum that way we can remove it from the site
Will do. Thanks for the info!
Personally, I hope the pirates crack the N3 thing, and the sooner the better.
The only reason the pirates were buying DVB-S2 boxes like the Coolsat 8000/8100 and Diamond 9000, and the Pansat 9000 is because they were using them on the Nimiq sats for HD stuff. When those sats went N3, we didn't really see the prices of those receivers get cheaper. All we saw was the Diamond web page go away, and absolutely no support for the Diamond.
If this new Nagra3 thing does stop the pirates, it will eventually put many of the receiver manufacturers out of business, at least for North American versions. THey'll still probably make them for Europe, but I can't see them wasting money on the small number of FTA hobbiests in North America.
So while there MAY be a short term reduction in price for the currently available receivers, I think the long term effect will be higher prices for receivers. I just hope that whatever DVB-S2 8PSK HD receivers are in the pipeline make it to the market before the companies go under. I think the pirates help our hobby, not hurt it.
Just my opinion.
The only reason the pirates were buying DVB-S2 boxes like the Coolsat 8000/8100 and Diamond 9000, and the Pansat 9000 is because they were using them on the Nimiq sats for HD stuff. When those sats went N3, we didn't really see the prices of those receivers get cheaper. All we saw was the Diamond web page go away, and absolutely no support for the Diamond.
If this new Nagra3 thing does stop the pirates, it will eventually put many of the receiver manufacturers out of business, at least for North American versions. THey'll still probably make them for Europe, but I can't see them wasting money on the small number of FTA hobbiests in North America.
So while there MAY be a short term reduction in price for the currently available receivers, I think the long term effect will be higher prices for receivers. I just hope that whatever DVB-S2 8PSK HD receivers are in the pipeline make it to the market before the companies go under. I think the pirates help our hobby, not hurt it.
Just my opinion.
I think there will be some type of crack for either Dish or maybe Direct again now that will go beyond ICS. The pirates will not sit idle for too long, there's too much $$$ to be made.
In the meantime we have an opportunity to get some great gear for low cost since frustrated pirates will throw in the towel.
Up till now they helped but with the HD the mini dish guys use and the HD we want they are not compatible, It should be good if N3 is not hacked as the receivers out like the Pansat 9200 among a few others will get updates that will move the product, and the only people left would be legit users, also my local dealer told me the new Fortec will be out this fall (I wont hold my breath)
If you see pirate ads show up in google tell me the url for the site it takes you to so I can block them
N3 will not be here for long, I am hearing another smart card swap by the end of the year to a new system that is only being made for Dish.
N3 will not be here for long, I am hearing another smart card swap by the end of the year to a new system that is only being made for Dish.
N3 will not be here for long, I am hearing another smart card swap by the end of the year to a new system that is only being made for Dish.
Yes I have heard about this as well, hope it works out and ends these thieves for good, Dish wants to stay ahead of the pirates this time instead of behind, N3 is basically testing the waters to see what they are up against with today's tech.
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