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farmsatguy

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Middle of No Where!
I need some SOUND advice from anyone who can help. I just got my latest statement in my e-mail box. I can't remember the last time I actually looked at one but thankfully I did this morning.

My bill was $422!!! Um, ok, what the hell. So I log into the account and sure enouh there is a $300 charge for a damaged receiver I returned a few weeks back. So I call a CSR (actually got an English speaking rep this early) to find out what's going on. Im keeping calm because I know "jumping up and down screaming someone is an idiot" will get me no where (please note that I've been installing Dish/Direct for a dozen plus years). Within moments, my face turns red with anger and, more importantly, embarrassment. She tells me the account has been noted that my 722 was customer caused damage because of insect infestation! OMG! You're kidding right! You have NO IDEA just how anal I am about keeping things clean and organized - I drive my wife and two kids nuts constantly. I could go into detail but suffice it say, I DO NOT have a "bug" problem. I ask her to send me some kind of proof - pictures, a written report, something. Sorry sir, we have no such thing. You can now tell she's reading from a script about when equipment comes back in, they immediately destroy it for bio-hazard reasons. OK, I can understand this, I'm a fairly intelligent guy, they dont want a box full of roaches being loosed upon their facility so they take measures. Makes sense to some degree, I do Dish-N-It-Up's all too often where I pack the receiver in a trash bag so the bugs from the customer's house do not get in my vehicle.

The thing is, I don't have a bug problem AT ALL of ANY kind. They have no proof at all and refuse to offer anything other that a stupid script over and over about bio-hazard. So I'm just supposed to accept ths blindly and pay the fee. I've been with them for 14 years as a customer - at present, I have three 722's and two 510's active. They get a PILE of $$$ from me every month for years on end. I don't get a call from them or ANY kind of proof at all and this is bullsh*t. What recourse do I have to fight this? I don't WANT to switch to Direct but I've been slapped in the face - what else can I do? This is just so embarrassing! That's really my biggest issue (aside from paying $300 for a 722 where the hard drive failed). The ONLY thing I can think of isa few years back, the area I live in had an unbelievable problem with ladybugs. They were EVERYWHERE. They were in EVERYTHING. Finally, something was done about it locally and I even had an exterminator come and treat my house for them specifically. Given that they got into every thinkable nook and cranny of everyone's home in a 50 mile radius, I'll concede that "maybe" there "might" have been some dead carcasses in the receiver. I haven't seen a live one for probably a year in between when they were active and the time my 722 finally played out. There is NO WAY those dead lady bugs, if there was any in the case, had anything to do with it. Besides, they're ladybugs - not roaches, or fleas, or whatever.

Bottom line, is they've offered me NOTHING but pay this fee or else. This is crap. I want proof of some kind that I had an infested 722 and that said infestation caused the hard drive to fail. A few dead lady bugs at best had nothing to do with this.

Oh, this makes me wanna puke. What do I do when customers ask me who's better, Dish or Direct? I've ALWAYS said Dish Network. Don't know that I'll say that anymore. Don't know what I'm gonna tell these 4-5 people I meet day in and day out.
 
Unbelievable! Was the 722 drive truly dead like they say?

Don't know what you can do but appeal to executive resolution.
 
Gosh, that really blows. I'd be sending an email over to the ceo's address.

That's a good idea. I think that's my best avenue for resolution. Having worked in subs homes, I can understand their policies. But "one size fits all" doesn't always work. Thanks for the advice, I'm confident they can help.
 
Unbelievable! Was the 722 drive truly dead like they say?

Don't know what you can do but appeal to executive resolution.


Yeah, I see the error number often enough that I should know it by heart, but my brain isn't functioning as well as it should be. Both tuners worked just fine; we could change channels in either room with no problem, but any time we tried to access the DVR, pause, or anything else hard drive related, we'd get the popup advising that feature is unavailabe. After restarting the unit, I'd get the other popup advising functionality of the unit is limited due to drive issues, please restart the unit, if that doesn't fix it, blah blah blah! So yeah, it was just the drive. Basic functionallity was fine and swapping another unit it put everything back to normal. I knew I should have created a work order to replace it vs. creating an RA! That was so I could get paid my $40 for the service call! LOL! But, I chose to go the honest route....
 
Yes thats dishnetwork ! it does not surprise me at all. im a 10 year costumer and they still trying to rip me off .
 
Perhaps the new revenue FIRST policy is hitting the returned receiver department?

Hey look at our costs there lets tighten up the rules and get more money?

Once the beancounters infest a operation their BS can spread far and wide, and muck up any operation.

the result of profit before customer satisfaction.

sad what E has become:(
 
Tell them you want $300 for all the buggy software in their receivers... ;)

LOL! Now that's funny! I guess one good bug deserves another, huh? Don't get me started on the software "bug" last week that had us playing absolute hell just getting the 722's activated on new accounts:rant:. Even then I kept my cool & just played it down with the customers as a rare problem that occasionally happens, but for 3 days it cost me an extra hour on each job when I had to activate a 722. Wonder what that's worth to me as a financial loss?:confused:

Good comment - that was just too funny!:)
 
Open a complaint with the Better Business Bureau. DN ALWAYS responds to those first.

Once you receive a response, please post your communication here. It should prove interesing reading.

Yeah, I hope going thru executive resolution will just put things "back to normal". I don't want anything extra for the loss of recordings and all that, I just don't want to have to pay for something I didn't do. For those who aren't techs in the field, you'd have no idea of the crap we go thru from some people about losing their movies when we have to replace a defective unit. I just had an SD to HD upgrade last week (625 to a 722) where the wife wanted to back out of doing it because she said the CSR told her I'd be able to move her movies from unit to the other. When I told her that there was no method I was aware of to do this, that the CSR was mistaken, she was basically kicking me out telling me I was too inexperienced (after 14 years) and needed someone who knew what they were doing. Um, not a pleasant visit to say the least.

But, if that fails, then thats the route I'll have to go. I'm a simple guy; I just want to resolve this is as quick and painlessly as possible. Thanks for the advice, hopefully I wont have to go there. If I do though, I will keep you updated as you requested. Perhaps my problems can help someone else in the future.
 
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I had this happen to a customer of mine, sent back two receivers, charged for both, got a bill for around $500-600 in addition to the monthly programming fee. Contacted them and asked for proof of this and they could not come up with any and they credited the account for both. I learned afterwards that I will take the casing off of the receiver (I do not think this voids the warranty) and make double sure just so that they do not come up with an excuse such as this ever again when anything gets sent back to them.

If they decide not to credit your account then they will have collection agency on you and it will affect your credit score.
 
I've returned 4 622s in the last 2 years and am on the Dish terror watch list, so I can't wait to switch to D* or FiOS or maybe ditch all pay TV and enjoy OTA and Netflix. Just waiting for the last 622 to kick the bucket. Already getting wonky, probably a few more months and I'm out.
 
Contact your state Attorney General's consumer affairs department and tell Dish Network that you plan to contact them. It might not work, but you could give it a try.
 
If you have the serial number or whatever number would identify that specific receiver, then if email/letter writing won't work, I would go the small claims court route. There they would have to prove what they are saying.

But, you don't say (or they don't say) what type of insect infestation. Even the cleanest of homes can get certain bugs in electronics, especially in colder climates and especially if not a single family home. Guessing, betting it is Cockroaches they found as they are the most prevalent insects to be found in electronics.
 
Are you sure you didn't accidentally return a Directv DVR? That could be mistaken for being bug infested.
 
Contact your state Attorney General's consumer affairs department and tell Dish Network that you plan to contact them. It might not work, but you could give it a try.

People who keep suggesting AG need to seriously reconsider their position in this economy. Much like businesses hiring, DISH WANTS your business, it doesn't NEED your business. They have 14M other people to draw income from if you bail.

If you make yourself a "complainer" or worse, do something to get yourself marked as such, they're just as liable not to "hire" your business. Again, they don't need you and at some point you spending their time will exceed the cost of your worth as income to them.

Business is business. If you make it personal, don't be surprised if they do the same.
 

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