New AMC-14 and E-3 Info
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Two problems with moving satellites from 61.5 W. First, the E-12 satellite with the spotbeams was designed for 61.5 W and the spotbeams would be screwed up. Second and larger issue is FCC licensing. Now Dish could use the 77 W DBS slot but there are some restrictions because it is a Mexican slot and it is between Canadian DBS slots at 72.5 W and 82 W.
For those who think the 61.5 W slot is useable for the entire lower 48 states have not investigated the "look angles" for the west coast. As someone pointed out the "look angle" in San Francisco is 14 degrees and it is about 11 in Seattle. By comparison, the "look angle" in Boston for 129 W is about 14 - 15 degrees. Anything under 25 degrees makes it really difficult to have a high percentage of people in an area be able to receive signals because of trees, hills, mountains and other houses/buildings.
How did VOOM use this Satellite to serve the lower 48. Did they have more then one satellite?,Or if you lived on the west coast you were sh*t out of luck? This was Voom's satellite location ,Right?
The elevation on the west coast for 61.5 is very low, however it can be installed. Same goes for 148 on the west coast. The plan for Voom was to eventually get a satellite active on the west coast at either the 157 or the 166 slot to fix that elevation issue, but it never got that far.
Regardless, if you were on the west coast, you could get Voom, just required a good install.
Regardless, if you were on the west coast, you could get Voom, just required a good install.
When AMC 14 is moved to 61.5, it will have the exact same, or very close to the same of what E3 has now and you shouldn't notice ANY difference UNLESS you have crappy signals right now on 61.5 and need to get peaked, but even then you should probably be fine.
Yes it was. And many people out here were out of luck. I was able to get 61.5 for a while but it was purely luck in living on a hill with no obstructions to the east. I'd still loose signal occasionally when there was bad weather over the Cascades (mountain range that splits Washington state). When 129 was mirrored I re-pointed. In the time since then I lost line of site to 61.5 when evergreens grew in the distance east of me. At 11 degrees it doesn't take much.
That might have played into it. But currently if you live here and ask Dish to re-point you from 129 to 61.5 they refuse because they know how problematic it is. You can always try it yourself or take your chances and pay a local sat contractor. Don't get me wrong, I think they are doing the right thing. It's just unfortunate for the west coast that it's going to take them longer to get things right out here compared to the rest of the country. It's just the way things are.
I asked Dish to switch me from 129 to 61.5 and they didn't have a problem with it. They sent out an installer within a few days to do the switch at no charge. Of course I'm near the middle of the country...
Mario
Mario
I hate when I do that...
Just makes it even easier not to hit something at those distances.
If we figure 200 ft (1/25th of a mile give or take) then we have approximately 1125 satellites in that space. (Fixed on edit 'cause my brain i s toast
) Nope, not likely they'll hit
Decidedly not a zero possibility; but clearly it ain't as easy as some would make it seem.
I'd say Indiana was a lot closer to the East coast than Seattle.
I'm glad Dish is doing what they are doing. It needs to be done. But I do dispute that most people in my area have 61.5 as an option. That's no big secret to people who live out here.
One thing is for certain with all this movement and planning going on, Dish is playing catch up to a more well organized DirectTV.
I think the reason the new HD channels were officially announced as SOON is because Dish is trying to keep their top tier customers from jumping ship.
Dish knows their most Savvy and generally most paying customers frequent this forum and watch Charlie in all his glory on the Charlie Chat.
Hopefully Soon translates into about as soon as DirectTV's launch last year. I think it only took them about 30-60 days to light up all those channels once the bird was in the sky.
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I think the reason the new HD channels were officially announced as SOON is because Dish is trying to keep their top tier customers from jumping ship.
Dish knows their most Savvy and generally most paying customers frequent this forum and watch Charlie in all his glory on the Charlie Chat.
Hopefully Soon translates into about as soon as DirectTV's launch last year. I think it only took them about 30-60 days to light up all those channels once the bird was in the sky.
::::::So this new Satellite is going to the 61.5 location right? So does that mean I can just Use my Dish 500 and leave it pointed at the current 61.5 location and get rid of my 110 and 119. If I do this how can I run my 622 and 211 of of a single lnb dish?
We are all wondering about that one. IN time we will find out more. Some are saying a sat splitter will take the place of the seperator and accomplish the same thing for a dual tuner. We won't know till closer to the time.
Still, that just represents a software change, right? They didn't implement anything in hardware with a custom ASIC did they?
Ted
Looks like it's going to be on FTA and webcast, but I couldn't find any info on the webcast.
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