New FCC rules on new satellite TV bands...

[N5XZS]

Looks like we will be getting more new satellite TV bands.:

Have fun reading it!!

Here's the link.... http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-10-15A1.pdf

 

[Dishman Dan]

Looks like we will be getting more new satellite TV bands.:

This quote is the only part that I understand with all of that blah blah!

:up Maybe they are getting ready for the "freedbs.org" channels!!!

 

[meinename]

The most I could get out of it was the following:

• FSS in the 10.7-11.7 will not happen in NA as that band is allocated by the FCC for Terrestrial Links
• CATV relay stations in 10GHz
• 7GHz (6875MHz-7075MHz) and 13GHz (12750MHz-13250MHz) for Fixed Stations will be co-ordinated as "Notice and Response", not ad-hoc like some had wanted.
• Mobile transmitters can be "Notice and Response" or ad-hoc
• Proposed "Growth Zone" for more terrestrial links is dropped as of this memo.
• There will not be any keep-away zones for uplink stations.

GSO (Geosync Satellite Operations) is the key acronym what we are used to as far as I can tell.

Alot of the document seems to talk about NGSO.
Seems to mostly talking about co-ordination rules for the use of 7/10/13GHz

I'm having trouble wrapping my head around what "commercial" uses there are in 7 and 10GHz for NON-Geosynchronous satellite

 

[SatelliteAV]

Unfortunately, the continued assignment of the international 10.7 - 11.7GHz FSS band for North American (US) terrestrial use is the most limiting factor affecting KU band and FTA growth in NA. The majority of the international agencies controlling frequency assignments worldwide, permit FSS operation in the lower KU band. This translates to mean that the rest of the world has 2 times more KU bandwidth (1500MHz vs 500MHz) for FSS operation than the US regulations allow.

If the FCC supported the international FSS frecuency assignments, the increased spectrum availability could allow hundreds (possibly 750 or more MPEG 2 or over a 1000 MPEG 4 channels per KU FSS band satellite). The increased spectrum would lower the cost of transmission on popular satellites that is demanded due to the effects of supply and demand. It would also promote the formation of "super satellite" magnet positions such as Astra and Hotbird, which provide thousands of FTA services from a few orbital positions.

The terrestrial broadcasting lobby group is extremely strong and the incredible growth in personal wireless applications has been a major factor in the FCC deviation from international frequency assignments. Maybe the SatelliteGuys group could be a sort of watch dog so we could act proactively to not only protect, but to encourage continued adherence to international frequency assignments for all satellite bands. Maybe we might lobby to change typical FSS locations to add the DBS/DSS 12.2 - 12.7GHz assignments for increased FSS bands?

FCC decisions not only affect the US, but the entire hemisphere..... there goes the neighborhood!

 

[Bill_KY]

Maybe the SatelliteGuys group could be a sort of watch dog so we could act proactively to not only protect, but to encourage continued adherence to international frequency assignments for all satellite bands. Maybe we might lobby to change typical FSS locations to add the DBS/DSS 12.2 - 12.7GHz assignments for increased FSS bands?

FCC decisions not only affect the US, but the entire hemisphere..... there goes the neighborhood!

I agree, we need a watch dog for FTA. Much like the ARRL is for ham radio operators. Or like the EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation) for Digital rights watchdog for the consumer.

We could band together with other forums, dealers ,manufacturers, FTA content providers and start a non profit (NOT tax exempt ) lobbying foundation.

 

[Babadem]

Basically, there was a change in policy, but all things remain the same as before?

 

[classicsat]

The most I could get out of it was the following:

• FSS in the 10.7-11.7 will not happen in NA as that band is allocated by the FCC for Terrestrial Links

It could. Shaw Direct has the go-ahead form Industry Canada to use the top 250 Mhz of that band for an extended Ku satellite and service. They must get it going by 2014 or lose it.

 

[SatelliteAV]

Will this cause border clashes between our two countries? I can just imagine a US based terrestrial service on the south side of the 49th and a satellite customer on the North side.... this situation couldn't lead to any good!

It could. Shaw Direct has the go-ahead form Industry Canada to use the top 250 Mhz of that band for an extended Ku satellite and service. They must get it going by 2014 or lose it.

 

[zamar23]

The incredible growth in personal wireless applications has been a major factor in the FCC deviation from international frequency assignments.

But personal wireless has reacher and longer history in Europe, and in-depth proliferation there in society life. So how they deal with the same issue having less dedicated spectrum?

 

[Cadsulfide]

WE as a nation have unfortunatly allowed the radio spectrum that was once held in the "public trust" to be sold to the higest bidder. The FCC now just make rulings that benefit the big players with big lobbying budgets. Innovation in satellite involves risk taking to be sure, but also requires the risk taker to have acces to some frequencies. Startups are now and forever "locked out" by big $$ interests. I don't see anything new on the horizon that might pose as potential competion to the entrenched operators being allowed to occur.

Just my opinion.

 

[mikelib]

WE as a nation have unfortunatly allowed the radio spectrum that was once held in the "public trust" to be sold to the higest bidder. The FCC now just make rulings that benefit the big players with big lobbying budgets. Innovation in satellite involves risk taking to be sure, but also requires the risk taker to have acces to some frequencies. Startups are now and forever "locked out" by big $$ interests. I don't see anything new on the horizon that might pose as potential competion to the entrenched operators being allowed to occur.

Just my opinion.

Amen Cadsulfide,
You are right on; "we the people" who own the public trust always come up on the losing end of any government decisions when allocating spectrum. As a ham radio operator, I see how hard the ARRL works to represent Ham Radio operators interest and protect the Ham Radio Bands.