Claude is right about one thing. I've never seen the rates drop ,even when they stopped carrying a channel or suite of channels, like AMC , IFC,WE ,Sundance channels. We didn't see the rate go down even the months we had none of those channels. Now it has gone up by $5.00 for every basic programming pack ,when we got them back . OF course the increase was not due to just AMC channels ,but I'm sure we didn't get HD versions of most of those channels by paying the same thing we were paying last year.