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I recently got an LG CX OLED and the picture is spectacular, and thats saying without seeing true 4K on it as yet.
 
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BTW, I have noticed that feeds of cable channels I get with my Roku via their apps are clearer and sharper than feeds via DirecTV satellite.

I only have my projector on a wall right now with premium bright white paint. 100 inches.
TV Everywhere apps are 1080P vs what you get on Traditional TV Service, even Watch ESPN is 1080P while 720P on regular TV Service, Picard, as in your picture, is now in 4K/DV via it’s app.

Most streaming services are in, at least, 1080P, many are now in 4K/DV/HDR for a lot of content.
 
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Most streaming services are in, at least, 1080P, many are now in 4K/DV/HDR for a lot of content.
That's a significant overstatement. While some content is available in 4K, the large majority of content is some form of HD. Many of the HD cable channels stream in their respective cable channel format (Disney, ESPN, Fox, ABC, Nat Geo, MLB, SEC, Big10 and C&I stream 720p with some 4K feeds). HBO seems particularly stingy with their 4K content (less so for DC) and Amazon Prime offers mostly their in-house content in 4K. 4K on Peacock is pretty rare. Paramount+ offers a pretty decent balance of 4K on their in-house content (but not through Amazon Prime). Fortunately, Paramount+ allows you to authenticate with an Amazon Prime subscription to Paramount+.
 
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That's a significant overstatement. While some content is available in 4K, the large majority of content is some form of HD. Many of the HD cable channels stream in their respective cable channel format (Disney, ESPN, Fox, ABC, Nat Geo, MLB, SEC, Big10 and C&I stream 720p with some 4K feeds). HBO seems particularly stingy with their 4K content (less so for DC) and Amazon Prime offers mostly their in-house content in 4K. 4K on Peacock is pretty rare. Paramount+ offers a pretty decent balance of 4K on their in-house content (but not through Amazon Prime). Fortunately, Paramount+ allows you to authenticate with an Amazon Prime subscription to Paramount+.
I said many, not all.

And streaming services easily has more 4K content then Traditional Providers, not even a competition.

Netflix has had 4K for at least 10 years, what has Traditional Providers done to improve in the same time frame, sporting events every once in a while, some Providers are actually decreasing picture quality.

Netflix, Disney, Paramount, Hulu, You Tube TV, HBOMAX are actually increasing their 4K library, so instead of going after them, should you not go after DirecTV, Dish, Comcast, Spectrum and the like.
 
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Yep, season 2, so 8 years, only two years off, now the vast majority of new content on Netflix is in 4K.

In those 8 years, what has Traditional Providers done about 4K, carry a few up-converted (1080P to 4K) of Sports from Fox, did Dish/DirecTV even have the Winter Games on in 4K ( and it was up-converted).

I starting to think they just cannot carry too much 4K and that is why Broadcasters do not bother, Comcast, for example, reduced everything to 720P then let their box up-convert it back to 1080 (i or p) because they needed the bandwidth, Dish Satellites are getting up there in years, DirecTV is just a disaster, try one thing, does not work, scub it, try another..
 
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The truth is much closer to some than many. Certainly nowhere near a majority.
Among the major SVODs, the following all have a significant amount of new/recent content (originals and/or theatrical films) in 4K:

Netflix
Prime Video
Apple TV+
Disney+
Hulu
Paramount+

The following have limited amounts of new/recent content in 4K:

HBO Max
Discovery+
Showtime
Epix

Meanwhile, Peacock does not yet have any 4K content. I don't think AMC+ has anything in 4K. I don't know about Starz.
 
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Among the major SVODs, the following all have a significant amount of new/recent content (originals and/or theatrical films) in 4K:

Netflix
Prime Video
Apple TV+
Disney+
Hulu
Paramount+

The following have limited amounts of new/recent content in 4K:

HBO Max
Discovery+
Showtime
Epix

Meanwhile, Peacock does not yet have any 4K content. I don't think AMC+ has anything in 4K. I don't know about Starz.
According to Harshness it is not that much.
 
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According to Harshness it is not that much.
"Significant" is a pretty squishy word. For most, it means not negligible which is a far cry from a broad offering.

Amazon Prime's "free with Prime" 4K content is a relatively small percentage of their library and is substantially limited to their in-house productions. The same could probably be said for Netflix. Terms like many, most, lots and majority are dangerous when they only involve a small number of original series that are sponsored by the "network"; whether or not they are the tentpoles for the network. It is also important to consider that some of these properties like DC, Star Trek or Star Wars tend to have somewhat narrow appeal or even haters.

Dozens of titles out of thousands isn't a huge deal. It looks even punier when you remember that a "season" in one of these series-based shows is only ten or so episodes give or take a few.
 
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Amazon Prime's "free with Prime" 4K content is a relatively small percentage of their library and is substantially limited to their in-house productions.

I really do not consider Amazon a streaming service like the rest, to me it is shopping with free shipping, video is just a extra.
It is also important to consider that some of these properties like DC, Star Trek or Star Wars tend to have somewhat narrow appeal or even haters.

To you they be narrow, yet they along with Marvel, make the most money, even Aquaman, considered a joke by most, grossed $1.148 billion worldwide.
Dozens of titles out of thousands isn't a huge deal. It looks even punier when you remember that a "season" in one of these series-based shows is only ten or so episodes give or take a few.
Traditional Broadcasters seem to be going in that direction, La Brea only had 10 episodes, Big Sky is only 15, there are a few others.

And once again, compare what the streaming services has in 4K content to what Traditional Providers offer in 4K, I will help you, it is almost nothing.

Since this is a OLED thread, what is going to look the best on it, it is not the regular bit-starved 720P/1080i content on Traditional Providers.
 
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I really do not consider Amazon a streaming service like the rest, to me it is shopping with free shipping, video is just a extra.
That's your personal and perhaps quite unique view. There are lots of series as well as feature length movies -- perhaps as many as some other dedicated streaming services. There's even a selection of live sports.
To you they be narrow, yet they along with Marvel, make the most money, even Aquaman, considered a joke by most, grossed $1.148 billion worldwide.
There's a distinct difference between movies in a theater and streaming them at home.
Traditional Broadcasters seem to be going in that direction, La Brea only had 10 episodes, Big Sky is only 15, there are a few others.
We'll see if they have any staying power. I don't see a long future for La Brea but I may be wrong.

For me, the biggest surprise was Paramount+ and the 1883 miniseries. Oddly it wasn't produced in 4K.
 
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I really do not consider Amazon a streaming service like the rest, to me it is shopping with free shipping, video is just a extra.


To you they be narrow, yet they along with Marvel, make the most money, even Aquaman, considered a joke by most, grossed $1.148 billion worldwide.

Traditional Broadcasters seem to be going in that direction, La Brea only had 10 episodes, Big Sky is only 15, there are a few others.

And once again, compare what the streaming services has in 4K content to what Traditional Providers offer in 4K, I will help you, it is almost nothing.

Since this is a OLED thread, what is going to look the best on it, it is not the regular bit-starved 720P/1080i content on Traditional Providers.
I would agree. Amazon Prime Video doesn't have much. I did like Jack Ryan and Reacher series. Outside of that I don't have much use for it.
 
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Yep. My floors aren’t sticky. No one using a cell phone. I generally have a better sound system.
Then again, you don't have a screen than could occupy most of your field of vision.

If your sound system is better than your favorite theater's, you should seek a better theater.
 
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For me, the biggest surprise was Paramount+ and the 1883 miniseries. Oddly it wasn't produced in 4K.
Are you sure about that? There are 4K torrents of it out there...
Yep. My floors aren’t sticky. No one using a cell phone. I generally have a better sound system.

And the popcorn is much cheaper.
I think having the best seat in the house matters the most. No sound system sounds very good if you're sitting off center next to a speaker. I'm happy with my Onkyo.
Then again, you don't have a screen than could occupy most of your field of vision.

If your sound system is better than your favorite theater's, you should seek a better theater.
I do. 100" and my eyes are only about 10 feet away from it.
 
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Distance to screen matters. I have a 65” screen. Considering I am maybe 12’ at most from my screen, how does that compare to the small theater screens and distance from them today?

When I was a kid, movie theaters with screens that small were all porns. Now, almost all are that way. FoV is better at home.

Last time I went “theater” it was for some forgettable movie in 3D. Wasted.
 
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Distance to screen matters. I have a 65” screen. Considering I am maybe 12’ at most from my screen, how does that compare to the small theater screens and distance from them today?

When I was a kid, movie theaters with screens that small were all porns. Now, almost all are that way. FoV is better at home.

Last time I went “theater” it was for some forgettable movie in 3D. Wasted.
Last movie I saw in a theater was Star Wars Episode I - The Phantom Menace.
 

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