Retention vs executive resolution

samiwax

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Jul 13, 2004
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Is there any ACTUAL difference between executive resolution and dish retention? If so
is one easier to deal with than the other or have more "juice" to get something done than the other. Really sorry to have to ask but you guys can see whats coming.

Thanks in advance
Sami
 
Are you leaving or actually trying to get a problem fixed? If you're set on leaving, just do it. Sounds like what you're doing is asking who will offer you the most to stay.
 
Absolutely NOT set on leaving nor do I intend to do so. I am seeking NO offers to stay. I am looking for whatever leverage I can bring to bear to allow DISH to live up to their word re: a special situation agreement with marketing. This has gone back & forth for over a year now with Dish refusing to hold up their end or agreeing
to in fact stick with our original agreement but then never actually doing it. They seem to want to apease me in hopes iI will go away.

I do not need anything offered to me to stay,I only ask DISH to be honorable and live up to their word. If it comes down to a post to get help in findind the right person in the right department to get this done then so be it. I'm not leaving except by attrition. I will though use all diplomatic means possible to force DISH to
be honest and honorable in their dealings with long time paying customers. (in spite of themselves)

Now,can you maybe be of some help? This will benefit all of us as customers and hopefully make it easier for the next guy who blindly trusts the nice helpful marketing depts BS. It just might be you. I honestly hope not.

Sami
 
So......what was the original agreement that you're trying to get them to live up to? Being as vague as you have been with this post really doesn't help things. It might be that neither of these departments is the appropriate one to help resolve your issue, whatever the heck it is, and another department would be better suited.
 
I've never used retention, but have used executive resolution. If the folks at ER can't help you, then nobody can. You can use the ceo email, which usually gets a response within two or three days, or you can use the twitter team, which usually gets a response in under an hour. :)
 
I've always used Executive level and not retention. I would like to know if their is a difference, as well, just for my own curiosity. However, based upon posts on this board, it seems to me that they are two different departments.
 
Since your problem is deep based on your description, you'd want to speak to ert. Retention is really only there to keep you from cancelling, they won't take time to get back to you in most cases. Also in my recent history, they didn't seemto be all that interested in keeping me around anyways.

I forget if there is a ert phone # floating around on here but usually it takes speaking to a local supervisor first, then they transfer you to ert. Depending on the sup's ability to help or his/her opinion of validity of your request you may never get that transfer.

You can make the call but I'd recommend sending a letter and including copies of any marketing materials you may have kept about the problem you say is about marketing. If you have materials like that, ert would ask you to fax them over anyways and the issue would take at least a week to get a conclusion I'd guess.
 
Charlie has crippled reps ability to help subs for greater profits. Apparently churn is no longer a concern.

so dont expect much, that way you wouldnt be disappointed:)

New subs cost about a grand in aquistion and free premiums...

But E would rather lose a sub who would cost them far less to retain...
 
Charlie has crippled reps ability to help subs for greater profits. Apparently churn is no longer a concern.

so dont expect much, that way you wouldnt be disappointed:)

New subs cost about a grand in aquistion and free premiums...

But E would rather lose a sub who would cost them far less to retain...

DUDE SERIOUSLY, GO AWAY ALREADY! YOU ARE OF ABSOLUTELY NO HELP TO ANYONE HERE AND HAVEN'T BEEN FOR A LONG LONG TIME! PLEASE GO FAR FAR AWAY!
 
Loyalty/retention/account specialists (three titles, same position) is basically half a step above entry level. If an agent gets employed by a loyalty call center, once they've had a few weeks to get their feet wet they will be moved into loyalty, whether they want to or not.

Executive Resolution Team is a smaller group given more power, and more carefully selected. If something needs to be fixed, they have more tools to fix it, but they're also going to be holding the company line, and at the end, tell you no, there's noone else you can talk to.

To sum up, loyalty agents have less power, but due to lower standards you are more likely to find someone in that department to "abuse" what little power they are given. If, on the other hand, you're talking to agents and you get a vibe that your circumstance is somewhat unusual and that they expect you to deal with it because noone knows how to fix it, that would be a great time to speak with the executive team.

Samiwax... you weren't very specific... but my best guess is that you probably responded to some ad from a third party company where they promised you a gift card or something when you signed up for Dish Network through them. You probably didn't realize you weren't speaking to Dish, and the retailer is very careful not to tip you off. Once they've signed you up, the retailer really don't have any reason to want to talk to you anymore and will try to route you back to Dish if you call them, making the line even more blurry. Dish's position is that the gift in question was a separate agreement you had with them... they don't have gift cards or mp3 players to give out, they'll refer you back to the retailer.

In rare cases you might find someone who will apply credits to your account equaling the value of the retailer gift, but the reality is that this comes up frequently enough that telling you to call the retailer back has become a standard response.
 
Charlie has crippled reps ability to help subs for greater profits. Apparently churn is no longer a concern.

so dont expect much, that way you wouldnt be disappointed:)

New subs cost about a grand in aquistion and free premiums...

But E would rather lose a sub who would cost them far less to retain...

Wow Bob, been so long since I'd seen you thought maybe you decided to go away. Maybe your New Year's that it was resolution to be in the cable forums. How are those? ;)
 
Just a side track on this subject of ERT one of main reasons I had for leaving was I had simple everyday run of the mill problems where dish csr/tsr staff could barely handle. When you dont know the difference from a 7200, 721,722 then it time for dish to find new help. But I notice you all are all reaching out to ERT way too much. Honestly you really need executive resolution that much still or is there something I missing.
 
No. It's the usual problem of people wanting to start at the top of the food chain... The problem they haven't figured out yet is DISH is slowly but surely finding new and exciting ways to force them to start at the bottom. At some point, I wouldn't be surprised if you couldn't get through to ERT without more hoops than there are today. Then they can mass-mail ceo@dishnetwork.com to their heart's content.
 
Without knowing exactly what I can do to help, I will certainly attempt to jump on the grenade. It sounds to me like there was an offer you got to switch to DISH Network that has not come to fruition. Without knowing the context of your issue, I am bound to speaking in general rather then specific.
As far as the differences between the two departments, I am again limited to generalizations. If there is an account level change that needs to happen (improper tagging of equipment, death of account holder, etc) you would want to speak with ERT (Executive Resolution Team). If you wish to cancel services you would speak to Loyalty. If neither of these seem to be what you want, you can explain in more detail your specific situation and I can assist you. In fact, I can assist you in either of the aforementioned categories as well. I am the last stop you need to make. If I don't have the answer, or cannot get the answer, there is not one. Hope this helps.
 
Mimicking a previous poster: check to see if the original offer was Dish, or a third party retailer. As for who to call, I've luckily spent hours on the phone with CSRs and got my problems resolved. I guess I would when my only problems were a couple of malfunctioning receivers.
 

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