Uplink Activity Report - 12/13/2006 - 11 changes

[Pepper]

interesting, as hall thought, what if someone wants to record both HD and SD, so they can for instance dump the huge HD version when they need more space but still be able to watch the movie? I agree this is a great feature but hopefully there will be some way to turn it off for the rare times it's necessary. plus what you guys said while I was typing about espn.

 

[JohnH]

They are also supposed to be working on remaping HD channels (such as ESPN, ESPN2 and HBO) to their SD Channel Number.

I understand that work on this could begin today.

There is activity which indicates this is happening. ESPN HD 140, ESPN2 HD 144 and HBO HD 40.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Thanks John,

I dont know how to find that stuff out. So good to have verification.

 

[stone phillips420]

There is activity which indicates this is happening. ESPN HD 140, ESPN2 HD 144 and HBO HD 40.

so say one has a 942 or 622 you say 140 espn now espn hd on hd irds
so on hd ird are there 2 espn's at 140 espn and espn hd or is there just espn hd noiw at 140

 

[Kirby Baker]

I could see this remapping issue being a problem on a 622 in dual mode, where viewer on TV1 wants HBO HD from 300, and the viewer on TV 2 wants HBO on 300. Are they going to have an enable-per-tuner option on this?

 

[Hall]

what if someone wants to record both HD and SD, so they can for instance dump the huge HD version when they need more space but still be able to watch the movie?

Scenarios like that are rather unique and I would hope Dish doesn't spend many resources accommodating that.....

 

[Hall]

so say one has a 942 or 622 you say 140 espn now espn hd on hd irds so on hd ird are there 2 espn's at 140 espn and espn hd or is there just espn hd noiw at 140

I'm trying to make sense of this.... Does ESPN and ESPN-HD run the same programming at the same time ?? If so, they'll re-map the 94xx ESPN-HD channel to the 1xx ESPN slot. If ESPN and ESPN-HD show different programming, there will be NO re-mapping.

 

[Hall]

where viewer on TV1 wants HBO HD from 300, and the viewer on TV 2 wants HBO on 300.

Can't TV1 and TV2 watch the same thing at the same time ?? I have a 622 but can't say I've ever tried... TV2 can watch the HD channels, in case you didn't know.

 

[stone phillips420]

well as far as i know espn and espn hd almost always have same programming
so if i had a hd ird, are there 2 140's now espnsd 140 and espnhd 140?

 

[Hall]

Let's presume ESPN and ESPN-HD show the same thing, i.e. they simulcast, as you suspect they do. Channel 140, formerly ESPN, would now effectively be ESPN-HD (channel 94xx).

 

[pdxsam]

TV 2 can show from HD channels however they're downconverted and clipped to 4x3.

 

[JohnH]

An oops! HBO HD activity does say 300 not 40 as previously reported.

ESPN does simulcast ESPN HD.
ESPN2 does simulcast ESPN2 HD

 

[Hall]

I think simulcasting is a great idea. FWIW, my local TWC was planning to do the same thing with re-mapping the digital locals from the 7xx range, i.e. my local CBS is ch 7 (ota and analog cable) and ch 707 on digital cable. If a customer had a set-top box, ch 7 would in fact be "707".

Face it, too many people have HDTVs but think everything they watch is in HD. I mean, this doesn't educate them, but at least it might be a kick in the head for some.... I mean, I'll guarantee there are those who know there's an ESPN-HD. They've got an HDTV, HD service from Dish, and think ESPN (ch 140) is in fact ESPN in HD (ESPN-HD).

 

[db2]

I agree with hall that this is the way to go for the future with more and more stations going HD.

 

[mdonnelly]

I could see this remapping issue being a problem on a 622 in dual mode, where viewer on TV1 wants HBO HD from 300, and the viewer on TV 2 wants HBO on 300. Are they going to have an enable-per-tuner option on this?

Jeez, they're living in the same house, watching the same show! Get them into the same room and watch the show in HD.

 

[rlarryvt]

Jeez, they're living in the same house, watching the same show! Get them into the same room and watch the show in HD.

Thanks for saying it!!

 

[stone phillips420]

Let's presume ESPN and ESPN-HD show the same thing, i.e. they simulcast, as you suspect they do. Channel 140, formerly ESPN, would now effectively be ESPN-HD (channel 94xx).

so for hd boxes there would be no more espn sd?

 

[SummitAdvantageRetailer]

I have one complaint about re-mapping. If the source isn't HD, I don't want to waste DVR space on the HD channel. For example, WSOP on ESPN and ESPN-HD is standard def. Why waste 5x the space on my DVR just to see the gray ESPN bars on the side?

Very good point. When my local digital station is broadcasting a program that I want to record and it happens to be SD, I always record the SD mapped local in the 8000's range so as to not waste HD capacity on a SD program. DVR users should be given the opportunity to do the same if they want to DVD a SD version of the program whether or not that program is HD or not on HBO HD.

 

[Hall]

stone: Effectively yes, no more ESPN (SD).

 

[Juan]

I think they should make this mapping "optional" much like the mapdown of HD local stations