Where did TNT (138) channel go?

[telstar_1]

i think ESPN and the locals demand the most!!! while new contracts can be negotiated at a reasonable rates before a blackout.. the station use blackouts to demand more money out of broadcasters and us!!!

ESPN is to the point where it's making providers look bad in what they have to charge for basic packages. Last I knew it was like $4/month/sub just for that channel (+ maybe ESPN2, ESPNews, etc.) and then only if distributed to the bulk of subs. So you have the non-sports-consuming public (a majority) subsidizing the sports-addicted. It cries out for being booted from basic and offered only in a sports pack or alacarte. Then the public could see the true cost.

 

[John2021]

ESPN is to the point where it's making providers look bad in what they have to charge for basic packages. Last I knew it was like $4/month/sub just for that channel (+ maybe ESPN2, ESPNews, etc.) and then only if distributed to the bulk of subs. So you have the non-sports-consuming public (a majority) subsidizing the sports-addicted. It cries out for being booted from basic and offered only in a sports pack or alacarte. Then the public could see the true cost.

i always thought that ESPN was more like $10.00 or $ 11.00 smackers a month

 

[zippyfrog]

i always thought that ESPN was more like $10.00 or $ 11.00 smackers a month

Yeah, it is closer to $10 or $11. When YouTubeTV lost ESPN as well as all the Disney channels, they offered a $20 refund. In essence half of that was ESPN.

 

[John2021]

Yeah, it is closer to $10 or $11. When YouTubeTV lost ESPN as well as all the Disney channels, they offered a $20 refund. In essence half of that was ESPN.

It would be interesting if both sides shared the data on contract agreements and who gets how much... but that will never happen

 

[telstar_1]

How can it be conscionable to pass that kind of cost to people with no interest in sports

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[John2021]

How can it be conscionable to pass that kind of cost to people with no interest in sports

It would be for all programming not just sports

 

[telstar_1]

??

 

[zippyfrog]

I am wondering if CNN is no longer included in the Flex Pack for new subscribers, but those who already have it still get to keep it. Looking at the PDF of the programming guide that was updated on 1/20, CNN is no longer part of the Flex Pack. However, the 1/1 channel lineup has CNN in Flex Pack. Boy I wish we had those DIRT people from the early 2010's still here who could give the answers

January 20th Channel Lineup

https://my.dish.com/cms-files/channelcards/2026/0120/Channel_Lineup.pdf

January 1st Channel Lineup

https://my.dish.com/cms-files/channelcards/2026/0101/Channel_Lineup.pdf

 

[zippyfrog]

I'll agree with zippyfrog!!! As i have been thinking the same thing maybe there working on getting rid of the flex pack. I think the top 120 would be a better bang for ones buck than the flex pack

I found this interesting - I went to Dish.com in an incongito window and pretended to create an order. I can no longer add the Flex Pack to a new order. It is not advertised on the main page anymore, when you create an order, you only have the AT120, 120+, 200, 250. It used to be that the Flex Pack was all over the place and it was very easy to find. On the Dish vs DirecTV comparison chart, there used to be a line about the lowest base pack and Flex Pack was listed for Dish, and it is no longer there.

It is still clearly showing the Flex Package on the my.dish.com side of the website, but nothing obvious on the Dish.com website if you are signing up for Dish for the first time.

 

[telstar_1]

Is it "qualifying programming"?

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[John2021]

I found this interesting - I went to Dish.com in an incongito window and pretended to create an order. I can no longer add the Flex Pack to a new order. It is not advertised on the main page anymore, when you create an order, you only have the AT120, 120+, 200, 250. It used to be that the Flex Pack was all over the place and it was very easy to find. On the Dish vs DirecTV comparison chart, there used to be a line about the lowest base pack and Flex Pack was listed for Dish, and it is no longer there.

It is still clearly showing the Flex Package on the my.dish.com side of the website, but nothing obvious on the Dish.com website if you are signing up for Dish for the first time.

i can't get the flex pack on a new order either but it's still an option on my dish acct. it's still on the dish outdoors acct to.. when we signed up we were never offered the hopper 3 we had to ask for it now it just pops up.. there's a reason directv costs more is because they have more channels than dish...