Which DTV HD Receivers also support analog OTA/Cable channels?

[onyx00]

I am specifically trying to find DTV Receivers that allow you to plug in analog OTA or cable and then maps these channels right in to the guide. I don't want something where you can "flip" between DTV and the analog input.

I know the Samsung TS360 does this; any others? Possibly something newer?

Thanks!

 

[botello]

Look at the Hughes E-86 I think it supports both cable/OTA

 

[Digital Dude]

Sammy TS160 &360, Toshiba DST3000&3100, RCA DTC100 and DTC210, Hughes E-86, HTL-HD, Sony SA-HD100, 200, 300, Zenith 1080 and 520, Mits SR-HD5, Panasonic TU-HDS20.
Basically all of them until they were DirecTV branded.

The only ones newer are DST3100 and DTC210

 

[lou_do]

I have a HTL-HD that gets them. My E-8 used to also, may it rest in peace.

 

[JustBob]

Sammy TS160 &360, Toshiba DST3000&3100, RCA DTC100 and DTC210, Hughes E-86, HTL-HD, Sony SA-HD100, 200, 300, Zenith 1080 and 520, Mits SR-HD5, Panasonic TU-HDS20.
Basically all of them until they were DirecTV branded.

The only ones newer are DST3100 and DTC210

I used to have the RCA DTC100 and it does not do what onyx00 is asking. The channels that came in over the antenna were in a separate guide from the DirecTV channels. You had to "flip" between them. I'm not sure if RCA changed that with the DTC210. I can say that I'll never buy RCA again (long story) and my mission is to encourage others to avoid them.

-JustBob

 

[onyx00]

YES, let me clarify:

I want a receiver that does not require you to "change inputs" between the analog and DTV channels. ALL CHANNELS (BOTH ANALOG VIA OTA/CABLE) SHOULD BE LISTED IN THE DIRECTV GUIDE

The Samsung SIR-TS360 does this exactly! But I wanted to know which other receivers do the same...if any.

 

[Digital Dude]

Forgot about that, it's been a long time since I had my DTC-100, but the list is otherwise accurate.

If you want a newer box that does it get a toshiba DST3100, it has ATSC, NTSC, and QAM.

 

[lou_do]

YES, let me clarify:

I want a receiver that does not require you to "change inputs" between the analog and DTV channels. ALL CHANNELS (BOTH ANALOG VIA OTA/CABLE) SHOULD BE LISTED IN THE DIRECTV GUIDE

The Samsung SIR-TS360 does this exactly! But I wanted to know which other receivers do the same...if any.

The HTL-HD will put them all on the same menu. Only one menu for all satellite and OTA (Analog & digital) stations.

 

[lou_do]

Here is what the guide looks like with a HTL-HD.

 

[onyx00]

In the above picture, how does it know the programs that are on for the Analog channels? This puzzles me.

 

[raoul5788]

In the above picture, how does it know the programs that are on for the Analog channels? This puzzles me.

An HTL receiver has an ntsc receiver in it, yes?

 

[Digital Dude]

In the picture it knows because he subscribes to SD locals from Direc which includes the programming info.

With ATSC tuner (digital) there is program info sent in the data stream. Some receivers have to tune to the digital channel for a few seconds to get the programming info for the next 8 hours and some do it in the background.

 

[lou_do]

In the above picture, how does it know the programs that are on for the Analog channels? This puzzles me.

The one that says "OR2" is the D* analog feed (via Satellite) of Channel 2 - Orlando, the feed underneath it "WESH 2", is the OTA analog feed of the same thing.The third one "WESHHD 2-1" is the HD feed of the same station, via OTA antenna. The last feed, "WESHHD 2-2", is the NBC Weather Plus feed.

It is easy to tell the analog feeds because everyone from D* will have initials of the viewing area in front of it. Example this station is OR2, referring to Orlando Channel 2. The OTA analog feed of the same station will have just the entire letter, "WESH 2".

Hope this helps explain it.

 

[lou_do]

An HTL receiver has an ntsc receiver in it, yes?

Correct, it imports both NTSC (480i) and ATSC signals (1080i, 720p, 480p and 480i) via the antenna inputs.

 

[lou_do]

In the picture it knows because he subscribes to SD locals from Direc which includes the programming info.

With ATSC tuner (digital) there is program info sent in the data stream. Some receivers have to tune to the digital channel for a few seconds to get the programming info for the next 8 hours and some do it in the background.

Right, if I didn't subscribe to D* locals you would not see "OR2" on the program guide, just WESH 2, WESHHD 2-1 and WESHHD 2-2.

I am not sure on how this receiver does get its Guide Data.

 

[onyx00]

Just an update.

So I bought a Samsung SIR-TS360. Problem was, going from DTV channels to analog cable in channels, I lost sound on the analog cable in channels. To re-gain sound you could simply hit the yellow "Audio" button and then hit select, and sound comes back.

So I went out and got a Hughes HTL-HD. Even worse problems! I get a constant message of "Network Reconfiguration" on the screen. Pops up for 45 seconds, pictures comes back, and then the same message comes up again in 15 seconds. This makes the unit pretty much useless. I checked SW version; 1.06, so DTV told me to leave it on for 24 hours to see if it will update to 2.0.1. Nothing yet; still same problem. Mind you this isn't the "Searching for signal" error message, something completely different. DTV had no idea what was going on.

Looks like I may never be able to find a good receiver with OTA and cable-in capability...

 

[Lynskyn]

I never had cable with my Sony SAT-HD300, but it did have separate off-air and cable inputs.

 

[stevesmall]

I never had cable with my Sony SAT-HD300, but it did have separate off-air and cable inputs.

had a sony hd300 and all of my cable stations came in great