Why does lossless audio require a higher volume setting?

gadgtfreek

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May 29, 2006
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Always wondered why the True and Master tracks require a lot more juice.

Normal tv and dvd viewing are around -20 to -23 db's on my 1909, while the BR tracks get down to -13 to -16.

Not a big deal, just wondering.
 

jayn_j

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Always wondered why the True and Master tracks require a lot more juice.

Normal tv and dvd viewing are around -20 to -23 db's on my 1909, while the BR tracks get down to -13 to -16.

Not a big deal, just wondering.

If I had to guess, it would be that true and master tracks are completely uncompressed. Normal tracks will be punched up a bit in the 200-800 Hz range.
 

Paul Wozniak

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The lack of compression is the reason. Rock and roll, for instance uses a lot of compression in order to sound "louder". These new codecs have a much wider dynamic range, so they're able to start with a lower recording level (the lower noise floor is another reason), and preserve the peaks in special effects, etc... This is a very simplified explanation, but I think you will get my drift here.
 

gadgtfreek

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May 29, 2006
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Yeah. What I like, and my wife hates, is I adjust volume for the voices, and when you hit an action scene it gets LOUD. It should be this way IMHO.
 

gadgtfreek

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Shes getting used to it. I let here hear the last 20 minutes of Transformers yesterday, cranked way higher than we normally watch. She actually thought it was great how well everything sounds now.
 

bhelms

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No wife, no kids, and no neighbors...! Gets lonely sometimes, but there is absolutely no issue with the volume when I really want to experience it...until I blow a speaker...! (Been there, done that...twice !!)
 

dimi1963

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May 19, 2004
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I love this receiver, it is really worthed the money. I have upgraded from an old Onkyo (TH-602b), and what a difference. The only thing is that I am still using my old 5.1 bose speakers. But belive it or not after several auto setup attempts I finally got the right Audissey Eq setup and it really sounds great. My next purchase (as soon as I have some dough) will be the Def Tch procinema 800 speakers system. If you can, test the AVR-1909 with the BD U-571, it gives your LFE the work out that it deserves.
 

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