tOSU being investigated for tattoo-gate?

How true it is.

Time to start giving these players stipends.

Anybody that thinks $500 or $1000 / month is going to keep the crooked programs from paying far more to get top players is naive. Outlaw State will still be Outlaw State, it will just, the next time its caught cheating, say "well $12K/year is 'slave wages' " as their justification for not living within the rules.

Fact is, if you do the math, you are talking a "payroll" of $4M, since every athlete in every sport must be paid. Overall, college athletics do not make that much money. Lots of it is accounting tricks, charging off the infastructure to the general state budget.

Ever known anybody who got an MD? Four years of HARD college classes at your own expense. Two more years of VERY HARD medical school classes at your expense. Then two years of, guess what boys and girls, UNCOMPENSATED WORK for an ULTRA-PROFITABLE COLLEGE HOSPITAL, while you still pay tuition. Then three more years of 60 hour per week weeks while being paid $35K or so, again for an ULTRA-PROFITABLE COLLEGE. Then, at no earlier than age 32, you might get to make a nice upper-middle class living.

In fact, any medical profession involves free work in a university hospital. Even nursing, even being an X-Ray tech.

Ever known anybody who got a PhD? Years of being a flunkie researcher for a professor and teching freshman courses. For no money.

Fact is, yes, universities make money. And fact is, if you want to be something, you work for free for a while.

Its called life.
 
Anybody that thinks $500 or $1000 / month is going to keep the crooked programs from paying far more to get top players is naive. Outlaw State will still be Outlaw State, it will just, the next time its caught cheating, say "well $12K/year is 'slave wages' " as their justification for not living within the rules.

Fact is, if you do the math, you are talking a "payroll" of $4M, since every athlete in every sport must be paid. Overall, college athletics do not make that much money. Lots of it is accounting tricks, charging off the infastructure to the general state budget.

When did you make up that rule? If it was true, which it is not, the kids who play volleyball would get the same accomodations at the Univ of Louisville as the basketball team does, which they do not. Hell, at a b-ball school, the football team doesn't get near the perks that the b-ball team does.

As to schools making money off athletic programs, you are so far off track you will never ever be able to get back on. Again, let me cite some info for you about the Univ of Louisville (local school whose finances are published yearly in the Courier-Journal) b-ball team. They make more money on that program than all the others put together, gross and net profit, that is. The rest of the sports is just gravy for the school. Ask Ramy who is the most profitable sports school in the state of KY, and he will tell you that, contrary to popular (but uninformed belief) its not the Univ of KY, although they make a fortune on sports.

Will not even address the vitriolic spewing about tOSU. Where are you getting your insider info re: rules violations? Making that up along the way, I would assume. If you have any proof, please cite, if not, then why continue your rants?

Ever known anybody who got an MD? Four years of HARD college classes at your own expense. Two more years of VERY HARD medical school classes at your expense. Then two years of, guess what boys and girls, UNCOMPENSATED WORK for an ULTRA-PROFITABLE COLLEGE HOSPITAL, while you still pay tuition. Then three more years of 60 hour per week weeks while being paid $35K or so, again for an ULTRA-PROFITABLE COLLEGE. Then, at no earlier than age 32, you might get to make a nice upper-middle class living.

Some friends are MDs and I will inform them that they did what you say. Once again, you are simply making up "facts" to make it sound like you actually know what you are talking about. Also, upper-middle class <> over a million / year for a typical surgeon, which does take that long. :D

In fact, any medical profession involves free work in a university hospital. Even nursing, even being an X-Ray tech.

OMG! You are almost accurate about something! The rotations that nurses do are a small part compared to the classroom training they receive. (Wife is a nurse, RN with advanced degrees, you don't want to debate these issues.)

Ever known anybody who got a PhD? Years of being a flunkie researcher for a professor and teching freshman courses. For no money.

LOL, again you are way off. How about the fact that I was making very good money while in grad school? Where are you getting this stuff? Did you ever go to college? I know you have no idea about grad school, that is quite apparent. Thanks for the laughs, though!

Fact is, yes, universities make money. And fact is, if you want to be something, you work for free for a while.

Its called life.

Universities make money? Maybe Phoenix University On-line and its ilk, but real schools are lucky to break even. The big-time schools make money on some sports, but the sports departments are separate from the academic areas, hence the "foundations."
 
Just be patient .... NCAA doesn't WANT to find anything, thats what I've been trying to tell you all along.
They WANT Cam in the big game so they don't have to play the back up and mess with all the money that will be coming to them.

That's just ignorant!! Sorry but someone has warped you into thinking there is this huge conspiracy... I guess the Govt is hiding aliens, flew planes into buildings and such also. :rolleyes:


There are good points in that article but all the more reason why someone needs to come down on them and keep them out of the Bowl game. They will hit the draft and never take a lick of punishment for what they know they did wrong.
 
Where have you been hiding ?
Herbstreet has NEVER said anything positive about the school he went to since he left.
That's always bugged me (a little bit) about him. I have wondered if he's not 'allowed' to say good things as part of his job as it might show favoritism. He could of course stay neutral though...
 
They make more money on that program than all the others put together, gross and net profit, that is. The rest of the sports is just gravy for the school.
Ohio State's football program supposedly funds or supports the entire athletic program, including all the other sport's facilities and infrastructure, travel, equipment, etc, etc.
 
Ohio State's football program supposedly funds or supports the entire athletic program, including all the other sport's facilities and infrastructure, travel, equipment, etc, etc.

I would think thier Basketball team would hold thier own, but between the two, I can see that they would be able to pay for the entire school of athletics ...
 
From the SI article, the guy says
So now you have a chance to make real money in exchange for your unique skill sets. Take it. Stop feeding a system designed to exploit you.
. Why doesn't he just suggest eliminating college sports altogether ?
 
I would think thier Basketball team would hold thier own, but between the two, I can see that they would be able to pay for the entire school of athletics ...
I don't pay attention to OSU basketball (or any basketball, for that matter) but it seems to me that OSU basketball is good for a few years, then so-so for some years, and so on. Last time I even heard much about OSU basketball was when Randy Ayers was coach ! :)
 
I don't pay attention to OSU basketball (or any basketball, for that matter) but it seems to me that OSU basketball is good for a few years, then so-so for some years, and so on. Last time I even heard much about OSU basketball was when Randy Ayers was coach ! :)

Not too many schools can live off of Basketball. Football usually carries the Athletic Programs. Now there are schools that do fine but schools like LSU, Georgia, Tennessee live off of Football. Just the ticket and game day money. 95K+ fans will do that.
 
Excuse me ... does anyone realize that these players are being "paid" a minimum of $100k and upwards ... it's called a degree from a top notch college/university ... if sports fail they can fall back on their degree which you cannot put a pricetag on
... sick and tired of hearing college athletes don't get paid!!!
 
Excuse me ... does anyone realize that these players are being "paid" a minimum of $100k and upwards ... it's called a degree from a top notch college/university ... if sports fail they can fall back on their degree which you cannot put a pricetag on
... sick and tired of hearing college athletes don't get paid!!!

I have basically said the same thing in other threads. A free college education, room, and meals.
Many would kill for that opportunity.

Edit: Had started a thread on it this morning at sonic.
Should college athletes be compensated?
 
I don't pay attention to OSU basketball (or any basketball, for that matter) but it seems to me that OSU basketball is good for a few years, then so-so for some years, and so on. Last time I even heard much about OSU basketball was when Randy Ayers was coach ! :)

Well, they've been pretty damn good the last few years after Randy as well.
They ARE ranked #2 in the NATION at the moment.
 
Excuse me ... does anyone realize that these players are being "paid" a minimum of $100k and upwards ... it's called a degree from a top notch college/university ... if sports fail they can fall back on their degree which you cannot put a pricetag on
... sick and tired of hearing college athletes don't get paid!!!

I have basically said the same thing in other threads. A free college education, room, and meals.
Many would kill for that opportunity.

Edit: Had started a thread on it this morning at sonic.
Should college athletes be compensated?

Academic students with a "free ride" have the ability to earn money doing jobs (in or outside of school). These athletes don't have that opportunity because they are always busy with their sport, but they sure make a lot more money for the schools than their academic counterparts.
 

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