Thanks, Cyclone. The only issue I see is that I can't "Call Out." The 622 will try and it will say the broadband is ok but the phone of course fails. No tech at Dish has been able to give me an answer on this. It seems to be that this feature is so new that none I have spoken to know how to operate it. I'm just hoping something clicks over there at Dish one day and my fee is magically removed.
HomePlug built into the 622, How cool is that?
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Nope. This has nothing to do with your wireless network SSID. Just plug it into an open port on your router then plug the homeplug adapter into the wall to light up the network on your electrical circuits.
I had a similar experience yesterday. I was trying to get a technician to tell me how I can verify that everything was connected and working properly. Like you, the "Call Out" always failed, but the Broadband showed OK. I could tell that the technician knew nothing of Homeplug because he first had me entering in a dialing prefix, and then wanted me to verify that I had my router plugged into the ethernet connection in the back of the 622.
After everything was done, I was able to get him to give me the $5.00 connection fee credited to my account, so that was a plus.
Digiblur is right. They are separate.
We actually have three layer 2 technologies in play here.
1. Ethernet
2. Wifi
3. HomePlug
So the SSID for the WiFi is separate from the Network Name (NEK) of the HomePlug network. Ethernet does not use a name.
As far as the call out feature goes, I guess Dish just says "call out" failed when the dialtone fails, but broadband ok when the broadband is good. The real litmus test is if your 622 has an IP address. If so, and your router can get out to the internet, you should be ok.
Stihlersfan, how did you manage to get them to remove the fee? I've talked to four people there and they seem all too non helpful in removing that fee. Plus, none of them know wtf they're doing when it comes to broadband. They all say "Uh, let me read my updates. Please hold." Then they give me some crap about the phone line again. I also had one of them try the prefix thing even though he knew it was dumb and had nothing to do with broadband. UGH!!
Can someone confirm that the IP address assigned to my 622 should be local to my router (192.168.0.101)?
Can someone confirm that the IP address assigned to my 622 should be local to my router (192.168.0.101)?
Please excuse my ignorance. I'm new and not well versed on networking, etc.. Is the interest in homeplug/poweline ethernet adapters with regard to dish receivers for dod, or can it actually be used to network two receivers together to share/watch programs and/or network with a pc. If so, I read somewhere that a 1080 signal requires appox. 20mbps which would eliminate the chip/homeplug 1.0 in the 622/722? A kind response would be appreciated.
I know that's an IP from my router. What I want to know if that is what my 622 should display? An IP assigned to my router and not a DNS assigned IP. Does your receiver have a 192... IP?
Yes that is likely what your 622 will display.
Most home routers will offer up a range of IP addresses to be handed out to any PC (or in this case the 622) that requests one. There is a safe range of IP addresses that can be used by anyone. The most common one for home use is IP addresses that start with 192.168.x.x.
Now which IP addresses your routers assigns is configurable in the router. But usually its in the 192.168.0.x or 192.168.1.x networks. In your case it appears that your router is assigning IPs in the 192.168.0.100 - ? range. If you have a PC connected to your router (and I'm sure you do), look at its IP address. I'm willing to bet that the first three octets (192.168.0.x) are the same as what the 622 has.
Your router itself holds the real public IP address on its WAN interface. It uses the 192.168.x.x ip addresses on its LAN side. So your router likely has 192.168.0.1 as the IP address for its LAN interface.
Most home routers will offer up a range of IP addresses to be handed out to any PC (or in this case the 622) that requests one. There is a safe range of IP addresses that can be used by anyone. The most common one for home use is IP addresses that start with 192.168.x.x.
Now which IP addresses your routers assigns is configurable in the router. But usually its in the 192.168.0.x or 192.168.1.x networks. In your case it appears that your router is assigning IPs in the 192.168.0.100 - ? range. If you have a PC connected to your router (and I'm sure you do), look at its IP address. I'm willing to bet that the first three octets (192.168.0.x) are the same as what the 622 has.
Your router itself holds the real public IP address on its WAN interface. It uses the 192.168.x.x ip addresses on its LAN side. So your router likely has 192.168.0.1 as the IP address for its LAN interface.
Correct. DirecTV is currently looking at HomePlug AV to do exactly what you guys are talking about, share recorded programming.
i got two of these today and have successfully used them to connect my toshiba hd-a2 to the net. it successfully downloaded the latest firmware and upated itself.
my dish installation is scheduled for tomorrow (though no confirmation call today...) so hopefully soon i'll be able to see if my 722 works with it also.
It sounds like I did the same things that you tried. I called technical support (not billing) and inquired about a way to determine if my Homeplug install was configured properly. As you mentioned, I could tell he was also reading from a script, always referring back to the phone line setup and the prefix. Then I mentioned to him that I set this up so that I wouldn't be billed for the $5.00 access fee and if my wife saw it again that she was not going to be happy. After that, he said that he would remove the fee in the next bill and that he would make a note on my account. If it appeared again, then call them and they will adjust the bill. I'll just have to wait for my next bill to verify that the fee has actually been credited.
and now the 722 is reporting successful connection using its built-in homeplug and the advantek adapter connected to my router.
now let's use this for something fun and tasty, dish!
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My second 622, the remote unit, was having the same problem where the IP address was listed and broadband would show "ok," yet I could not call out.
Initially, I only had the remote unit plugged into the wall, while the unit connected to the router was plugged into a surge protector. I needed to plug both 622's directly into the wall and manually add the other receiver on each unit's DishComm Setup (menu-6-1-8).
Once both units were able to "see" each other, I needed to enter Phone System Setup (menu-6-1-4) on the remote unit and choose "Remote" for the Modem Type. After that, I tested the connection, was able to call out and for good measure ordered Zodiac on HDPPV...everything worked perfectly and as an added bonus, caller ID now appears on the remote unit too.
Hope this helps someone.
I know this is an old thread, but to clarify, your caller ID works on the 622 without an actual phone line plugged in?
Nope, sorry. The caller ID feature only works through the phone jack (whether using a standard POTS phone line or an IP phone line).
Can't believe I hadn't read this thread. Very good info here.
So in theory, I could get a couple of these Powerline Ethernet adapters and extend my network with a switch upstairs from the wireless router downstairs? I have a 622 and a PC upstairs and would like to wire them both with a switch. Will this work? I don't see why it wouldn't but just want to make sure.
Found these "re-conditioned" Netgear adapters on eBay:
2pcs Netgear XE102 Powerline Ethernet Adapters XE102US - (eBay item 280163115629 end time Oct-21-07 12:32:50 PDT)
So in theory, I could get a couple of these Powerline Ethernet adapters and extend my network with a switch upstairs from the wireless router downstairs? I have a 622 and a PC upstairs and would like to wire them both with a switch. Will this work? I don't see why it wouldn't but just want to make sure.
Found these "re-conditioned" Netgear adapters on eBay:
2pcs Netgear XE102 Powerline Ethernet Adapters XE102US - (eBay item 280163115629 end time Oct-21-07 12:32:50 PDT)
Yep, I've seen switches with built in homeplug too. But I like the idea of separate devices.
I've seen folks connect two buildings together using homeplug. Saves a lot of time and money from either trenching a CAT5 or setting up some external wireless antennas/bridges.
I've seen folks connect two buildings together using homeplug. Saves a lot of time and money from either trenching a CAT5 or setting up some external wireless antennas/bridges.
