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Aguilobo2001

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I'm having trouble picking up 11720V/27.690. Don't know if it is just me, or what, but I can receive 11799V/26.660 with no problem. Any idea?
 
well need some more info like dish size, approx location, receiver, etc

What kind of results you getting on 11800?
 
Until yesterday night, I was getting 11800V pretty good. (Level 70, Quality 50). Now it is no signal. At this moment 11720V still has the same L70, Q50. I'm located in Mexico City, and have a 33 in. dish, with universal LNB. Fortecstar Lifetime receiver
 
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Currently 11720/27690 coming in at 56-100 and 11800/26650 coming in at 71-100 With a 1m dish in Southern Ontario, Canada with a Nexus-S card.
 
I'm having trouble picking up 11720V/27.690. Don't know if it is just me, or what, but I can receive 11799V/26.660 with no problem. Any idea?

I have noticed in the last few days my 11720's quality has dropped. It was even with 11799, 75 Q or so now it only peaks at about 60. I thought it was weather related on my end but Im thinking it may be Equity backing off on power or dish firing up on 121 again causing cross polar. Everything else on G10 is status quo.
 
Until yesterday night, I was getting 11800V pretty good. (Level 70, Quality 50). Now it is no signal. At this moment 11720V still has the same L70, Q50. I'm located in Mexico City, and have a 33 in. dish, with universal LNB. Fortecstar Lifetime receiver

Just yesterday I moved my dish back to G10R and got the best I've ever gotten. 11720 locks in at 46% and 11800 locks at 66% with my setup. I've got an old DirecWay dish (39"x23") and Fortec Classic NA receiver. Oddly enough, before yesterday I wasn't even locking in on 11804, now I'm locked at 46% too. Maybe something bumped your dish to move it just ever so slightly.
 
I have noticed in the last few days my 11720's quality has dropped. It was even with 11799, 75 Q or so now it only peaks at about 60. I thought it was weather related on my end but Im thinking it may be Equity backing off on power or dish firing up on 121 again causing cross polar. Everything else on G10 is status quo.

Noitced the same thing myself, a drop of about 15% on 11720 (and on my system it also was about the same strength as 11799). Of course, it was just after we had some strong winds come through the area last week, so I was thinking about a re-point, but may delay that a bit and see whether it goes back up to previous levels.
 
Same here with 11720, I've noticed lower signal levels during the last week or so. Not enough to cause breakup, but substantially lower than they have been. 11800 is the same as its been, no problems there...

I think it's that Dish bird at 121 again....
 
Thanks for your replies. I think that my location being way south (Mexico City, 19N, 99W), and the reports of 11720V dropping its levels, explains, why I have lost it. I will wait for it to get back to previous levels.
 
Same here with 11720, I've noticed lower signal levels during the last week or so. Not enough to cause breakup, but substantially lower than they have been. 11800 is the same as its been, no problems there...

I think it's that Dish bird at 121 again....


When it gets warm over by me and HITS gets mapped in to C band. Im going to swing my Primestar 90 cm at G-10 (I think it just clears my neighbors roof) and see how that thing does on crosspolar vs my ADTH 85cm. I know that P* dish is HOTT! :D
 
Noitced the same thing myself, a drop of about 15% on 11720 (and on my system it also was about the same strength as 11799). Of course, it was just after we had some strong winds come through the area last week, so I was thinking about a re-point, but may delay that a bit and see whether it goes back up to previous levels.

I thought my G-10 dish may have moved but my WSTV on my dual LNB setup is hot as hell. That puppy was touchy so if the dish moved that would have changed. Lay odds on crosspolar from 121, damn Echostar!
 
I thought my G-10 dish may have moved but my WSTV on my dual LNB setup is hot as hell. That puppy was touchy so if the dish moved that would have changed. Lay odds on crosspolar from 121, damn Echostar!

Same here, no change in the WSTV LNB strength (though I don't recall mine as being that touchy). I do recall that the last time I did a re-point, 11720 had been 15% lower than 11799, and was able, with an extremely small adjustment, to boost it to equal to 11799, and saw little, if any, improvement in any other transponder. Therefore, after the winds we had, I thought may be it had moved. However, with you and others noticing a similar drop, I will wait until it is a bit warmer (and hopefully the signal will improve on its own) before I climb the ladder to make a probably futile attempt to make any gain! Thought the problems with Echostar interference were in the past, as I remember last time was a real pain.
 
Same here, no change in the WSTV LNB strength (though I don't recall mine as being that touchy). I do recall that the last time I did a re-point, 11720 had been 15% lower than 11799, and was able, with an extremely small adjustment, to boost it to equal to 11799, and saw little, if any, improvement in any other transponder. Therefore, after the winds we had, I thought may be it had moved. However, with you and others noticing a similar drop, I will wait until it is a bit warmer (and hopefully the signal will improve on its own) before I climb the ladder to make a probably futile attempt to make any gain! Thought the problems with Echostar interference were in the past, as I remember last time was a real pain.

My setup was built solid enough that wind does not affect it. When I peaked it last summer it was reading about the same on the quality (60) on 11720 as it is now. Then all by itself it shot up to 75 like 11799. My WSTV is 75 on the offset LNBF that is the same. I have 16 to 17" on snow on the ground here with drifts up to 2 feet. So messing with the dish now is not fun.

Im thinking about swinging my Primestar 90 cm just for the heck of it to G-10 and see what the difference is in gain & adjacent sat interference when I try a few different sats for it's new home once the X4 HITS channels map in to AMC-18 and are no longer needed.

What I should do :eureka: is extend the pipe on my ADTH so it is above my garage roof. Then throw a motor on it and dedicate the P* to G-10. It's fun to think about different things that can be done :) Right now though unless it becomes a problem, my Pansat starts breakup at about 13 Quality, nothing is changing till late spring or summer. In this weather it's emergency service only :)
 
My setup was built solid enough that wind does not affect it. When I peaked it last summer it was reading about the same on the quality (60) on 11720 as it is now. Then all by itself it shot up to 75 like 11799. My WSTV is 75 on the offset LNBF that is the same. I have 16 to 17" on snow on the ground here with drifts up to 2 feet. So messing with the dish now is not fun.
Right now though unless it becomes a problem, my Pansat starts breakup at about 13 Quality, nothing is changing till late spring or summer. In this weather it's emergency service only :)

Don't usually have any wind related problems either, but with the drop in 11720 coming immediately after the winds we had, it was suspect. While I may do re-points on off-centre LNBs from time to time (new brackets or just an attempt to boost signals with minor movements horizontally or vertically) the only time I might have to/or want to re-point a dish is usually within weeks of moving a dish to a different position on my wall, basically to allow for "settling time". Only time I did have a wind issue was last winter shortly after I had moved a dish on the wall, hadn't settling in enough, I guess!

We had a "heat wave" today (about 5C or 40F) prior to a freezing rain/snow storm coming tonight/tomorrow, so against my above statements of "leaving it alone for a while", out I went to check the dish. I am happy to report I didn't make things worse (done that before), but could not boost 11720 at all, except for a minor reduction in fluctuation (and did get the added bonus of some minor increases on other transponders) with just a sliver of adjustment horizontally. So the dish is not the problem.
 
We had a "heat wave" today (about 5C or 40F) prior to a freezing rain/snow storm coming tonight/tomorrow, so against my above statements of "leaving it alone for a while", out I went to check the dish. I am happy to report I didn't make things worse (done that before), but could not boost 11720 at all, except for a minor reduction in fluctuation (and did get the added bonus of some minor increases on other transponders) with just a sliver of adjustment horizontally. So the dish is not the problem.

Im gonna ride this out and see what happens. I wonder if anyone can confirm that 121 is in fact fired up at the same frequency? Also are guys using big dishes for ku vs our offsets showing any reduction in Q.

It is indeed a beamwidth issue for us if 121 is the problem. Although a large dish shouldn't notice it. Kinda how my 12 foot on c band don't get affected by such issues.

Were suppose to get another 12 inches of snow today, right now it's iceing. I don't see playing with my dishes in any immediate future:( Short of keeping the snow and ice out.!sadroll
 
With my 1.2 Meter dish and Pansat 3500 (I don't like the Coolsats meter :() the signal has dropped from 90% to 86% signal quality.

Here is the BLSA scan of 123 Vertical vs. 121 Vertical:
 

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you do know that Little Rock had some nasty storms there the last day or so so it could be part of the reason why its doing that
 
The weather there looks good now, if it was the weather shouldn't the signal be back to normal now? (Unless their uplink dish is slightly out of alignment)
 
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