Special Retailer Chat Recap - July 20, 2009

[rajmarie]

This goes back to a question that I had earlier in this thread: does anyone know if the HD channels being moved from 129 to 110 will be made available to the PR/VI subscribers also? There's no logical reason why they would not be, yet they haven't been explicitly mentioned for the PR HD Pack.

Yes...doesnt make any logical sense since they will be on CONUS beam on 110 & that sat is quite powerful reception of CONUS in PR. I was expecting to see those atleast mention in the marketing flier...like coming soon or something like that.

Now I dont think Dish will give us those channels soon. I was talking abt NBATVHD & WGNHD & was trying to convince him to convert his 1 Dish box in HD...since he too is Bulls fan.

Still waiting for someone to tell us what Dish announced for us existing customers & HD upgradation....or is it what Nel did the only way for existing Dish customers to do it.

 

[technoguy]

Its a matter of profits for the local Dish Retailer.

Legacy hardware costs:
Lnb dual = $15
Dish sw21 = $15
3x4 switch = $15

DishPro hardware costs:
DP Dual Lnb = $30
DP21 switch = $30
DP34 switch = $60

As you can see, Dish Pro hardware is twice more expensive than legacy.

Remember , since the local Puerto Rico Retailer don't charge you a penny for the installation, the cost comes directly from his sales commission. Not to mention he already gave you $160 in two 4' metal antennas for FREE!!!

Let hope Dish stablish a fair retailer reimburstment system for the sales and distribution of the soon to be used 30" antenna. Then you'll probably see Dish Pro hardware in new customer installations.

At least that's what I'm planning to do.

DB_PR

You correctly hit the nail,Is about max profits,but I can assure you after August will be mandatory to use dpp gear on new installations(about time)cost certainly was a problem but top retailers were in Colorado last week to resolve this situation,A lot of good things coming on their way.

 

[Tom_P]

You correctly hit the nail,Is about max profits,but I can assure you after August will be mandatory to use dpp gear on new installations(about time)cost certainly was a problem but top retailers were in Colorado last week to resolve this situation,A lot of good things coming on their way.

Not to forget the issue that the mouting base from a OEM Dish Pro LNB is different from an legacy LNB, so to use them with our "regular" dishes an lnb arm modification was needed. It wasn't until early this year that those lnb arms for DP lnbs were available.

DPP Plus is actually the best option now that we hardly get single tuner units, but is too expensive...

And for those fortunate enough to have the full package, keep it.

One comment, those people that own a six footer and don't have the US-HD Package can get all the Premium Channels moving aiming their Dish to the 61.5. And actually a 5 footer correctly aligned can get them all but one Cinemax Channel that I can't recall the name.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Ok I got to watch the rest of it and there wasnt really anything else interesting worth reporting, however with that said my spanish isn't good so I might have missed something that was said and that wasn't shown on the screen.

So because of this I am having someone who speaks spanish review the show and report what they saw and heard as well.


I am hoping they can do it this morning.

Thanks for being SatelliteGuys!

 

[holy_devil]

No news on receiver upgrades that's a shame. Why would they add 6 new sd channels on MPEG4? I believe more than 90% of Dish customers in PR won't get them.

Thanks Scott for keeping us inform.

 

[javigr]

Hi


On one of the screenshot from yesterday recap I notice it says "Descarga de software para Vip211/K o Vip222/K"

Translation - Software download for Vip211/K or Vip222/K

What does this mean? DVR software upgrade?

 

[rajmarie]

Hi


On one of the screenshot from yesterday recap I notice it says "Descarga de software para Vip211/K o Vip222/K"

Translation - Software download for Vip211/K or Vip222/K

What does this mean? DVR software upgrade?

I suppose thats the VOD thingy over the web? or may be the remote DVR scheduling or something like that

 

[rajmarie]

No news on receiver upgrades that's a shame. Why would they add 6 new sd channels on MPEG4? I believe more than 90% of Dish customers in PR won't get them.

Thanks Scott for keeping us inform.

That upload is only for new subs who want Dish Latino packages. they will be installed with 1 dish solution...a 30 in dish pointed at 110 & they will have the VIP receivers which will allow them to not only receive Dish Latino packages, but local PR channels plus 1 extra local religion channel in MPEG4. those SD channels IMO uplink as MPEG4 on our spots because they r on 119 sat...& now they can get those without 119 with the new single dish solution. Tom/Technoguy correct me if I am wrong

 

[javigr]

The Vip211/K if conected to external hard drive it can be use as a DVR but the the Vip222/K doesn't have that feature yet. Hope soon

 

[holy_devil]

That upload is only for new subs who want Dish Latino packages. they will be installed with 1 dish solution...a 30 in dish pointed at 110 & they will have the VIP receivers which will allow them to not only receive Dish Latino packages, but local PR channels plus 1 extra local religion channel in MPEG4. those SD channels IMO uplink as MPEG4 on our spots because they r on 119 sat...& now they can get those without 119 with the new single dish solution. Tom/Technoguy correct me if I am wrong

I understand that perfectly, but it doesn't make sense to add new channels to make a more atractive pak for new customers only. For example, of the new channels my son and daughter love DIscovery Kids, whenever they are at their grandma house that's the channel they watch. If I would like my kids to have that channel I would have to buy a dual VIP receiver for them. And if I bought one for myself that more than $300 on HD receivers (non dvr). SO where are the great news for currents customers. I guess there are none. Where are the equipment upgrades? There are none. I guess I will have to wait for my contract to expire and subscribe again.

 

[neljtorres]

Guys there are more than 1 channel MPEG4 sd:
This is for the special 110 package


7/15/2009 2:34pm - Uplink Activity Report - 195 changes

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SatelliteGuys.US DishNetwork Uplink Activity Report - 7/15/2009 2:34pm - 195 changes

Uplink Comparison Range: 07/15/2009 01:10P - 07/15/2009 02:34P

Channel Additions:
106 - TVLND [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 49 (NA)
114 - E! [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 49 (NA)
128 - WE [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 49 (NA)
130 - AMC [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 49 (NA)
135 - BBCA [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 49 (NA)
142 - ESNWS [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 49 (NA)
150 - SPEED [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 49 (NA)
161 - MTV2 [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 49 (NA)
162 - VH1 [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 49 (NA)
180 - ABCFM [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 49 (NA)
202 - HNN [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 49 (NA)
205 - FXNWS [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 49 (NA)
215 - TRV [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 49 (NA)
239 - WGN [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 49 (NA)
404 - HRTV [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 49 (NA)
405 - TVGAM [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 49 (NA)
842 - UTLSM [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 49 (NA)
846 - V-ME [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 49 (NA)
849 - DKLA [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 49 (NA)
851 - NGLA [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 49 (NA)
852 - APLLA [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 49 (NA)
860 - AMRCA [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 49 (NA)

7797 - WCCV [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 49 (NA)(Arecibo, PR-N/A)

 

[ljdonato]

I suppose thats the VOD thingy over the web? or may be the remote DVR scheduling or something like that

That would be sweet. Been waiting for the remote scheduling for 211:

 

[rajmarie]

I understand that perfectly, but it doesn't make sense to add new channels to make a more atractive pak for new customers only. For example, of the new channels my son and daughter love DIscovery Kids, whenever they are at their grandma house that's the channel they watch. If I would like my kids to have that channel I would have to buy a dual VIP receiver for them. And if I bought one for myself that more than $300 on HD receivers (non dvr). SO where are the great news for currents customers. I guess there are none. Where are the equipment upgrades? There are none. I guess I will have to wait for my contract to expire and subscribe again.

Yup....no good news for current subs. I guess I will have to do the same....once my contract expires....IMO...Dish wants this circle....despite that they lose money on every turnover....ie existing customer disconneting & reconnecting. But...lets see...I have still some time to go...& Dish might throw me a bone by then. Who knows..by then Cable can also come up with new HD channels...& maybe cheaper then Dish

 

[neljtorres]

First I want to Thanks Scott!


Report from the Chat:

Scott reported alot of topics but they were a few that I writted down!

1-New package of 33 HD

2-Coming soon 6 HD is spanish "Dish Latino Package Clasico"
Discovery HD in spanish, Discovery Kids Hd, AmercaTV new hd channel,Animal Planet in Hd, Vme Hd, National Geographic in spanish HD

3-Special Package for satelitte 110 name is Dish500PR.in transition for next year with new sat for 119. Only vip REC. Because the package is from 110 only the vip will rec. software upgrades.

Pakages for 110:
Dish Latino Classic
Dish Latino 2
Local Channels
Hd Channels
Classic Bronze 100
No Shopping channels


The 30" Dish comes with the Puertorican Flag!

HD will start on august 1 but officiall launch will be on August 7!

HD Channels will be next to the sd channels!

Rajmarie this one is for you:

Offer for existing customers and new customers that subscribe to the HD pack will receive the HD pack free until may 2010 no monthly fee of 9.99!

Old customers can upgrade to a MPEG4
with a new 2 year commitment 211vip $49.99
or 612 $199 or 622vip
722 not included


They will be the leader in the Island in HDTV they compare with DTV, Onelink, Choice and Liberty and say that they are DN exclusive hd channels for PR:
Cartoon NetworkHD, CNBC,CNN,Comedy Central,Disnxd,Food,FX,Hgtv,Lifetime,MTV,Nick,Spike,TBS,TWC

New Local Channel MPEG4 sd Cadena del milagro Yiye Avila

More HD in Spanish to come!

I am very excited man for all of this that coming after all these years!
And they are going to have a really big advertising that does has not had in PR!

I hope this answers all of our questions and I want to thank scott again!

 

[PEDROJOSE]

can someone post the new package vs the AT 200 , AT250

 

[ljdonato]

Rajmarie this one is for you: Offer for existing customers and new customers that subscribe to the HD pack will receive the HD pack free until may 2010!

Hi nel!

I did not understand the above quote. Can you explain?

Also, there is info in your post that I didn't read in Scott's posts. Did you see the chat? If so, where?

Thanks to you and Scott for the info.

 

[neljtorres]

Hi nel!

I did not understand the above quote. Can you explain?

Also, there is info in your post that I didn't read in Scott's posts. Did you see the chat? If so, where?

Thanks to you and Scott for the info.

Scott Kindly me let me watch the chat! They talk so fast in spanish!

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Hi nel!

I did not understand the above quote. Can you explain?

Also, there is info in your post that I didn't read in Scott's posts. Did you see the chat? If so, where?

Thanks to you and Scott for the info.

He decoded the spanish for me into english.

 

[neljtorres]

Hi nel!

I did not understand the above quote. Can you explain?

Also, there is info in your post that I didn't read in Scott's posts. Did you see the chat? If so, where?

Thanks to you and Scott for the info.

The upgrade for old customers that rajmarie was asking about!

And if you are an existing hd cistomer like me next month uptill may 2010 we won't pay the 9.99 it will be free

 

[rajmarie]

Scott Kindly me let me watch the chat! They talk so fast in spanish!

hummmmmm Now we know who Scott was refering in the morning....& why Nel stayed in the house....blaming the virus....