NFL coaches that are out the DOOR!!

Actually, I think coaching at the College ranks is MORE stressful than at the professional level. This is one of the reasons I think Urban will leave Florida to go to the NFL. Think about it....

College coaches have a 24/7, 360 day job. They have boosters to please, kids to mentor, recruits to swoon, academics to monitor and so on. (all of this is over and above a coaches job description in the NFL). At a large, college football institution, there is more pressure than on any pro-football team.

So the reason college coaches can't win in the NFL is because it is easier and less stressful than college. OK:rolleyes:
 
College vs Pro coaching... just a different animal. It's like Lance Armstrong trying out for a Moto competition, why wouldn't he do well, it involved bikes? Because of recruiting vs draft/contracts the talent acquisition is so different, and the development of players is streched out over so long that potential can take more time to be realized instead of having players for 1-4 year stretches.

Similar, certainly not an easy switch, I can see why someone would be good at one (a good recruiter for example) and not at the other.
 
College vs Pro coaching... just a different animal. It's like Lance Armstrong trying out for a Moto competition, why wouldn't he do well, it involved bikes? Because of recruiting vs draft/contracts the talent acquisition is so different, and the development of players is streched out over so long that potential can take more time to be realized instead of having players for 1-4 year stretches.

Similar, certainly not an easy switch, I can see why someone would be good at one (a good recruiter for example) and not at the other.

Excellent points. Also, Carroll's rah-rah attitude works a lot better with relatively poor 19 year olds than with filthy rich 25-30 year olds.


Sandra
 
You assuming everyone that went to USC was poor....? :confused:

Just making a comparison between NFL players and college players, that's all. The point is Carroll will now be dealing with extremely well-paid football players as opposed to the college athlete. Even the odd truck or a place to live does not compare to the contract an NFL starter receives.

I did say 'relatively' poor, in relation to the NFL starter. You really need to read the whole sentence...


Sandra
 
Just making a comparison between NFL players and college players, that's all. The point is Carroll will now be dealing with extremely well-paid football players as opposed to the college athlete. Even the odd truck or a place to live does not compare to the contract an NFL starter receives.

I did say 'relatively' poor, in relation to the NFL starter. You really need to read the whole sentence...


Sandra

understood...and I agree.
 
Jim Haslett has been hired and will be running the 3-4 as DC for Shanahan's Redskins fresh off his stint as UFL Tusker's head coach who had a 'patriot perfect' season (win all but the championship game).
 
So the reason college coaches can't win in the NFL is because it is easier and less stressful than college. OK:rolleyes:
The tactics college coaches use when coaching kids don't work as well when used on millionaire adults.
 
Heckert to speak alongside Holmgren and Mangini at a 2pm press conference today. More later...

It’s Official: Tom Heckert Named as Browns GM | WaitingForNextYear

Heckert press conference went smooth. One telling comment reafirmed his recognition for a more potent pass game though...


"I don't know if you know a lot about Philadelphia, but we threw the ball a lot," he said with a laugh. "The last game, we were watching other games on TV and the Browns threw the ball like 11 times and we ran it like eight, so it was a little difference in philosophy. Like Mike [Holmgren] said, it's a throwing league and that's how you score points."

"Running the football, playing good defense and controlling the clock is great, but you do need to throw the football."

If the powers that be determine Quinn is NOT the guy, I see a new QB in our near future. Stay tuned kids....

Cleveland Browns' new GM Tom Heckert pleased with 'positive' talks with Eric Mangini; reaffirms emphasis in passing game | Cleveland Browns - cleveland.com
 
Crennel has reportedly agreed to terms with the Chiefs to become DC.

Kansas City Patriots: GO!

The Patriots have lost so much coaching and front office talent in the last few years.

I would of liked these guys to come back, but I understand going back under Bill really does nothing if they want head coaching jobs again.
 
The Patriots have lost so much coaching and front office talent in the last few years.

I would of liked these guys to come back, but I understand going back under Bill really does nothing if they want head coaching jobs again.

Truth be told...the whole coaching tree under The Big Tuna...have created good coaches and sooner or later, those under that same tree would "branch out" to become head coaches.

As much as I dislike Beli-jerk, he IS a good football coach when surrounded by good players....then again, I have always thought the coach is only as good as his players.;)
 
The Patriots have lost so much coaching and front office talent in the last few years.

I would of liked these guys to come back, but I understand going back under Bill really does nothing if they want head coaching jobs again.


Out of Weis, Crennel, Mangini, McDaniels and Pioli, the guy I REALLY would've like to have seen back (in his old post) is Weis.


My order would go like this.............

1. Weis
2. Pioli
3. Crennel
4. McDaniels
5. Mangini
 
As much as I dislike Beli-jerk, he IS a good football coach when surrounded by good players....then again, I have always thought the coach is only as good as his players.;)


I don't think that is necessarily true.

The 2001 Patriots were arguably the least talented team to ever win a Super Bowl.

Conversely, the 1997 Pats roster was LOADED with talent from top to bottom, but Pete Carroll coached them into mediocrity. Lack of discipline was cited as the biggest factor (who can ever forget the infamous "mosh pit incident" in a Boston nightclub, followed by an absolute drubbing in Tampa three days later).

Don't get me wrong, you need good players to win in the NFL, but I don't think you'll get very far without a good coaching staff.
 
I don't think that is necessarily true.

The 2001 Patriots were arguably the least talented team to ever win a Super Bowl.

Conversely, the 1997 Pats roster was LOADED with talent from top to bottom, but Pete Carroll coached them into mediocrity. Lack of discipline was cited as the biggest factor (who can ever forget the infamous "mosh pit incident" in a Boston nightclub, followed by an absolute drubbing in Tampa three days later).

Don't get me wrong, you need good players to win in the NFL, but I don't think you'll get very far without a good coaching staff.

I just think that there are good coaches and that is it. I have always been under the impression that a coach really does not make that much a difference. I really do not believe in that rah-rah stuff. That is always I have always believe MORE in a coaching staff than a single coach. MAYBE the entire coaching staff that Pete Carroll had sucked....;)
 

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