NCAA says that Tressell is NOT "forthright"...
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What about any players not tarnished by this?? Should they take their talents somewhere else??
Interesting question. This can go either for the school. It can help recruiting cause the coaching staff can use the ole 'the schools been cleaned up' or you can see a mass exodus of recruits in the verbal commitments....
Thats possible, I was coming from a "they will choose to go" stance. I do not see how that will benefit them as they have very little in the form of attractive options if they do.
I don't know where you're from, but here in Ohio, every news story or article with comments from the public or fans are saying the same thing. He should have reported these things. Sure, it may have caused a forfeit of some games but people can "overlook" a "loss" like that. It's better to deal with it that way than to try and HIDE it or cover it up and cross his (Tressell's) fingers in hopes no one finds out .... 'cause if they (NCAA) find out later, the punishment will be a LOT worse (from the school, the public, the NCAA, etc) .... as he's now found out.
I think the public feels "sorry" for the players and feel it's their stuff, they should be allowed to do whatever they want with it. I'll bet 75% or more sports fans would say they disagree with the rules regarding college athletes and the restrictions they're under from the NCAA in regards to money, income, etc. People just consider that kind of stuff "normal". It's no different in how pro athletes (used to) get treated by the police, for instance, if they got pulled over for a minor traffic infraction.
And plenty of past players have stated "they knew the rules" but that "nobody followed them". It then becomes a question of how much the coaches, the school, etc knew...
It's already been shown that $$$ (ratings, etc) is more important in that case .... but the players can't make money
It probably wouldn't have involved forfeiture of games if those players weren't allowed to play. My point was that the worst case would have been potential losses without them on the field.
Tressel decided to roll the dice thinking short term only, overlooking the big picture...
The SI story on Tressell...
...really does not reveal anything that we have not heard, but man-oh-man, does not paint a pretty picture when it comes to the details. Within the 1st few paragraphs, this...
Yet while Tressel's admirable qualities have been trumpeted, something else essential to his success has gone largely undiscussed: his ignorance. Professing a lack of awareness isn't usually the way to get ahead, but it has helped Tressel at key moments in his career. As coach at Youngstown (Ohio) State in the mid-1990s, he claimed not to know that his star quarterback had received a car and more than $10,000 from a school trustee and his associates -- even though it was later established in court documents that Tressel had told the player to go see the trustee. In 2003, during Tressel's third season in Columbus, Buckeyes running back Maurice Clarett was found to have received money and other benefits. Even though Tressel said he spent more time with Clarett than with any other player, he also said he did not know that Clarett had been violating the rules. A year later an internal Ohio State investigation (later corroborated by the NCAA) found that quarterback Troy Smith had taken $500 from a booster. It was the second time the booster had been investigated for allegedly providing improper benefits to a star player, but again Tressel said he had no knowledge of the illicit payment.
...wow..! And the story goes on to say that the scandal that originally started with "tattoo-gate" of 6 players, is more than likely involving close to 30 players.
That support crumbled suddenly over Memorial Day weekend. Tressel was forced out three days after Sports Illustrated alerted Ohio State officials that the wrongdoing by Tressel's players was far more widespread than had been reported. SI learned that the memorabilia-for-tattoos violations actually stretched back to 2002, Tressel's second season at Ohio State, and involved at least 28 players -- 22 more than the university has acknowledged. Those numbers include, beyond the six suspended players, an additional nine current players as well as nine former players whose alleged wrongdoing might fall within the NCAA's four-year statute of limitations on violations.
One former Buckeye, defensive end Robert Rose, whose career ended in 2009, told SI that he had swapped memorabilia for tattoos and that "at least 20 others" on the team had done so as well. SI's investigation also uncovered allegations that Ohio State players had traded memorabilia for marijuana and that Tressel had potentially broken NCAA rules when he was a Buckeyes assistant coach in the mid-1980s.
THAT my friends, is close to "death penalty" type of stuff. That way beyond, "lack of institutional control".
Sports Illustrated investigation on Jim Tressel, Ohio State - SI.com - Magazine
...really does not reveal anything that we have not heard, but man-oh-man, does not paint a pretty picture when it comes to the details. Within the 1st few paragraphs, this...
Yet while Tressel's admirable qualities have been trumpeted, something else essential to his success has gone largely undiscussed: his ignorance. Professing a lack of awareness isn't usually the way to get ahead, but it has helped Tressel at key moments in his career. As coach at Youngstown (Ohio) State in the mid-1990s, he claimed not to know that his star quarterback had received a car and more than $10,000 from a school trustee and his associates -- even though it was later established in court documents that Tressel had told the player to go see the trustee. In 2003, during Tressel's third season in Columbus, Buckeyes running back Maurice Clarett was found to have received money and other benefits. Even though Tressel said he spent more time with Clarett than with any other player, he also said he did not know that Clarett had been violating the rules. A year later an internal Ohio State investigation (later corroborated by the NCAA) found that quarterback Troy Smith had taken $500 from a booster. It was the second time the booster had been investigated for allegedly providing improper benefits to a star player, but again Tressel said he had no knowledge of the illicit payment.
...wow..! And the story goes on to say that the scandal that originally started with "tattoo-gate" of 6 players, is more than likely involving close to 30 players.
That support crumbled suddenly over Memorial Day weekend. Tressel was forced out three days after Sports Illustrated alerted Ohio State officials that the wrongdoing by Tressel's players was far more widespread than had been reported. SI learned that the memorabilia-for-tattoos violations actually stretched back to 2002, Tressel's second season at Ohio State, and involved at least 28 players -- 22 more than the university has acknowledged. Those numbers include, beyond the six suspended players, an additional nine current players as well as nine former players whose alleged wrongdoing might fall within the NCAA's four-year statute of limitations on violations.
One former Buckeye, defensive end Robert Rose, whose career ended in 2009, told SI that he had swapped memorabilia for tattoos and that "at least 20 others" on the team had done so as well. SI's investigation also uncovered allegations that Ohio State players had traded memorabilia for marijuana and that Tressel had potentially broken NCAA rules when he was a Buckeyes assistant coach in the mid-1980s.
THAT my friends, is close to "death penalty" type of stuff. That way beyond, "lack of institutional control".
Sports Illustrated investigation on Jim Tressel, Ohio State - SI.com - Magazine
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NOW, there is a story developing from the Columbus Dispatch that Terrell Pryor had be receiving cars from a car dealer from the moment he stepped foot on the campus. This is getting ugly real fast!
Significant inquiry by NCAA and OSU under way for Pryor, sources say | BuckeyeXtra
Significant inquiry by NCAA and OSU under way for Pryor, sources say | BuckeyeXtra
SamCdbs said:
Ummm, I think your reading what you want ....
It never said the thinks you mentioned
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Hall said:
I agree with this as well.
The rule is a stupid one, as is the one saying an athlete can't have a job .....
Ok, I have a scholarship, but can't go out to eat or on a date because I have no money.
The Non player is allowed to have a job.
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yep....that could mean he is gone AND he has an agent already. Pryor is Tressell's down fall, from the way things are shaping up.
