The next 2 universities being looked at for taking gifts/money: The U and Alabama!

salsadancer7 said:
....finding a credible way to poke all kinds of holes into both Nevin Shapiro's credibility and poke holes into yahoo sport report, Charles Robinson.

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Will start off with this:

Check my record. I have never liked The U. The ?swagger? has always offended me. I recognized 25 years ago the ?swagger? would make The U vulnerable to the kind of unfair attack it is experiencing today.

I?m not a homer for The U. I wasn?t a homer for Duke lacrosse. I don?t like media narratives that rely on the public giving in to its biases.

Then this interesting point stood out as well:

One word is missing from the Yahoo! story: Drugs.

You can?t tell this story accurately, honestly or credibly without addressing the drug issue. Drugs would raise legitimate questions about the nature of Shapiro?s relationships with the handful of anonymous sources backing (and/or refuting) Shapiro?s claims. Drugs would tell us a lot about Nevin Shapiro.

But the Yahoo! story would leave you to believe Shapiro operated in America?s Cocaine Capital, allegedly arranged strippers and hookers for seemingly half of The U, spent his nights in VIP areas at nightclubs and strip clubs partying with 20-somethings, and no one smoked a joint, snorted coke, popped X, swallowed OxyContin or even took Advil.

But Shapiro came clean, cleansed his soul? He?s transparent and trustworthy?

Shapiro did get Yahoo! to print that he never used any of the prostitutes he provided for Miami players. (I?m going to employ Robinson to write my biography. I hung out at McDonald?s and never tasted a Big Mac. I swear!)

And it goes on and on and on.

They are gonna ge sanctioned, no doubt about that....but I have a strange feeling ALOT will be hard to prove.

Interesting, I don't know if he is grasping at straws but it does make you think.
 
SandraC said:
Exactly the right words. To me, bringing up drugs is seriously grasping at straws. That, of course, is my opinion.

Sandra

He's grasping at straws....but are just giving your opinion....

Ok....gotcha! ;-)
 
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Sorry, not going to bicker.

You're welcome Ramy. ;)


Sandra
i don't think ramy would thank any of us for following the rules. It's what we're supposed to do. So i doubt we are doing him any favors. We could either follow the rules of this site or get out. Sounds easy enough to me.
 
NCAA released the suspension for The U. 5 out of 8 players only serve 1 game suspensions. That is a good sign because that could mean alot cannot be proven. I want to post more, but will do later.....stuck in traffic.
 
So, all these players took very little money ?
Hmmm, thats odd, you really think a Stud football players cares about a $ 20 bill ?

Man those Buckeye Big Ten Championship rings and a few Tattoos must be REALLY special to see they get 5 games and all the SH*T going down in Miami only amounts to 1 game. :rolleyes:
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CORAL GABLES, Fla. -- Quarterback Jacory Harris and 11 other Miami players who accepted extra benefits from former booster Nevin Shapiro will be allowed by the NCAA to play again, some as soon as the second game of the season.

The harshest penalties handed down Tuesday were reserved for those who took gifts from Shapiro while being recruited. Defensive lineman Olivier Vernon will sit out six games, while Ray Ray Armstrong -- considered among the nation's top safeties -- and tight end Dyron Dye will miss four games apiece. They are three of eight players, including Harris, who must sit out games and repay benefits before they can be reinstated.



The student-athletes involved have acknowledged receiving improper benefits and will now be responsible for restitution.
” -- Shawn Eichorst, Miami athletic director

Miami opens its season at Maryland on Monday night.

The Hurricanes still might face many more sanctions as the NCAA's investigation into Miami's compliance practices continues. And with Tuesday's ruling, the school has joined a growing list of schools with major football programs to be investigated by the NCAA for rule-breaking in the past 18 months. Others include Southern California, Ohio State, Auburn, Oregon, Michigan, North Carolina, Georgia Tech and LSU.

"Our members have continually stressed that involvement of third parties during recruitment will not be tolerated," NCAA vice president of academic and membership affairs Kevin Lennon said.

Harris, Sean Spence, Travis Benjamin, Marcus Forston and Adewale Ojomo all must sit out one game and make restitution for accepting benefits after enrolling at the school. Four other players must repay small amounts, all under $100, but will not miss any games.

"They understand that their actions demand consequences," Miami athletic director Shawn Eichorst said.

A 13th player, Marcus Robinson, was vindicated of wrongdoing.

The NCAA's ruling means Stephen Morris -- who led Miami past the Terrapins last season -- will be at quarterback for the Hurricanes to start the season. Harris, Spence, Benjamin, Forston and Ojomo all will be eligible to play when Miami hosts Ohio State on Sept. 17.

"All we've done throughout this process is try to move forward," Miami coach Al Golden said.

The NCAA's look at the Hurricanes has not been limited to the gridiron, Miami spokesperson Chris Freet told ESPN.com that the eligibility of men's basketball player DeQuan Jones is still in the investigation phase. Shapiro alleged in the Yahoo! Sports report that he made a $10,000 payment to a family member of Jones' to help secure the commitment of him coming out of Stone Mountain, Ga.

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Shapiro alleged that former head coach Frank Haith and former assistant coach Jake Morton knew of the payment but that Jones did not. NCAA spokesperson Stacy Osburn told ESPN.com that the NCAA had received all of the reinstatement requests from Miami. If the Hurricanes determine that a violation did occur in its investigation with the NCAA into Jones, a senior forward, then they would have to declare him ineligible and seek his reinstatement for the 2011-12 season.

The football punishments are more immediate with the NCAA saying Vernon must sit six games and repay more than $1,200 because as a recruit he accepted things such as access to Shapiro's suite at a Miami home game, drinks and cover charges at two different nightclubs. Shapiro, who told Yahoo! Sports for a story published Aug. 16 that he provided benefits to 72 Miami players and recruits over an eight-year span, has even said that he made a $1,000 donation to Vernon's high school booster club.

Armstrong must repay $788, the believed worth of his extra benefits, while Dye will pay back $738.

"The student-athletes involved have acknowledged receiving improper benefits and will now be responsible for restitution," Eichorst said.

Forston, the NCAA said, received more than $400 in things such as "athletic equipment, meals, nightclub cover charges and entertainment at a gentleman's club." Spence received about $275 in benefits, Ojomo $240, Benjamin more than $150 and Harris more than $140.

Brandon McGee, JoJo Nicholas, Micanor Regis and Vaughn Telemaque all must pay less than $100 for various impermissible benefits.

Separately, Golden said senior wide receiver Aldarius Johnson -- who was also implicated by Shapiro, but not named in Tuesday's NCAA statement -- has been suspended indefinitely for a violation of team rules.

ESPN.com senior college basketball writer Andy Katz contributed to this report. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
 
Basically it comes down to lots of allegations from a criminal behind bars who apparently doesn't have all the proof he said he had. Gee what a shock.
 

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