CBS stations return to DISH

[hazmat626]

Not sure if this has been asked....Are we talking about Showtime being pulled everywhere? And if it's pulled will Dish automatically stop charging for this package?

 

[sam_gordon]

I don't think they should profit off them, if must carry. However, remember, dish does not charge seperately for locals anymore either.

I hope you don't think that means they're "free".

 

[ChadT41]

Lol. Of course not. But it is definitely an arguing point to make for the "must carry".

 

[Blackloz]

I can tell you how to right this situation, the most of you are not going to like it, because for some reason everyone trusts greedy corporations over the government, when both are equally distrustful, the only difference being that at least part of the time, the government does have the best interest of the people in mind. Our FCC should do like the CRTC does in Canada, neither party can remove the channel, they have to come to amicable terms with one another with the channels left alone. It does not effect the viewers and forces a kind of arbitration on both parties. The Congress should make this incumbent upon the FCC to avoid situations like this from happening, and to help control prices.

Come to think of it. I've had Bell for about 15 years and I don't think I've ever lost a local channel to a dispute. Or even AMC or the superstations for that matter. Bell must have signed a 20 year agreement or something.


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[bobvick]

Come to think of it. I've had Bell for about 15 years and I don't think I've ever lost a local channel to a dispute. Or even AMC or the superstations for that matter. Bell must have signed a 20 year agreement or something.


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The CRTC does not allow either party to remove channels in a dispute as far as I know. Also, category A channels are must carry, all cable/DBS providers must carry them. I do not remember which are category A, B, etc... Now they have different names, you can look it up if interested.

 

[CK SatGuy]

The CRTC does not allow either party to remove channels in a dispute as far as I know. Also, category A channels are must carry, all cable/DBS providers must carry them. I do not remember which are category A, B, etc... Now they have different names, you can look it up if interested.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_A_services
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_B_services
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_C_services

 

[dishcomm]

Well, yes...that is exactly what DISH has said throughout each and every one of these carriage negotiations over the past years. There is no "innocent" party here though. These are big business owners, they are both asses as far as I can tell just because they ARE rich and feel entitled, and they are both into this for the max amount of profit they can wring out of being in business. They have to pay for that fourth or fifth vacation home somehow.

One thing you must get out of your mind. This is not personal. It's business.

 

[dishcomm]

The CRTC does not allow either party to remove channels in a dispute as far as I know. Also, category A channels are must carry, all cable/DBS providers must carry them. I do not remember which are category A, B, etc... Now they have different names, you can look it up if interested.

CRTC?

 

[bobvick]

CRTC?

Canadian Radio-Television and Telecommunications Commission. Their equivalent of the FCC.

 

[dishcomm]

Considering Oakland is just one team, I highly doubt it's a big factor.


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The Raiders are insignificant in this process.
Their market share is small. I would say a typical Raiders game may grab a 2 share...and that's in the viewing footprint.

 

[dishcomm]

Well CBS is #1 for a reason. I disagree with the part that Dish is willing to drop it.

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Had this dispute come at say the middle of March, the negotiations would be more critical. Each side would then have lots of skin in the game.
The NCAA Tournament is one of CBS's most important properties. Followed by the Masters Tournament which draws double digit ratings.
Dish would not want to risk the loss of subs. CBS could not afford the loss of ratings.

 

[dare2be]

It's just entertainment. Regardless of bundling practices, why should missing a football game or a movie rise to the level of federal law.

Because it isn't just about a viewer missing a game, TV show, or movie. It's about millions of eyes missing the advertising that retailers and other businesses pay good money for that won't be seen because a channel (or much more frequently, a whole slate of channels) goes dark on an entire provider's system. "It's the economy, stupid"

 

[dishcomm]

Sorry, but I do not agree. Those satellites and your receiver/antenna are just like being connected to the internet as far as two way data transmission goes. And no, I do not believe installers know everything about the receiver and its capabilities because that has been proven to me more than once. I knew more about the darn thing than two of my installers. I also feel very comfortable stating that I know more about my receiver and its capabilities than a large number of the CSRs...also proven to me too frequently for my happiness.

Way back on the 722, I remember when the programming info could be sent by satellite connection only. Do not be naive enough to believe that DISH, DirectTV or whoever would not snoop on your activity for whatever reason using the receiver and satellite connection only. I am not saying they do, but to state that it absolutely does not or cannot happen is not logical. And no, I am not going to get into a pissing contest with anyone about this here. That is my belief on the subject based on what I know about computer and networking operations of many kinds. I am an expert in none, but huge dabbler in much. Anyway, I hate the combative tone most "debates" take on online, so I refrain from "debating" my opinions. I will state what I believe, as I have on this, and leave it at that.

"sorry I do not agree"....."That is my belief"...

You said said so yourself. You "refrain from debating" ....
You have "beliefs".....You refuse to discuss with anyone who has a contrary position to those beliefs in even if that person presents evidence that contradicts your beliefs....
That's the textbook definition of the conspiracy theorist. Ok. Fine. Bye....

 

[dishcomm]

I can promise you, the LNBF that is installed on the antenna is a receive only, it cannot transmit, nor can the receiver, they do not have that capability. However, what they do have the capability of, it transmitting data over telephone line or broadband. Hence the reason that they require you to have receivers connected to the Internet or phone line. That is the reason that you must have a phone or internet connection for IPPV to report back for billing purposes.

Black helicopters, I tell ya!!!!!

 

[dishcomm]

Believe what you want, but speaking as someone who has actually worked on satellite uplinks, it is not technically possible to send information back via satellite in a standard Dish hookup (if someone has Dishnet, that's a different story). This has nothing to do with "logic" and everything to do with hardware capabilities.

You can also have the opinions that bicycles can fly. Don't expect people to not question you simply because that's your opinion.

She claims to have installers working for her. Imagine being employed by someone who always has to be the smartest person in the room and the only opinion that matters is theirs.....
I'd stab myself in the eye with a pencil. LOL

 

[Templeton0543]

I used to know a guy who was absolutely sure the cable company was able to spy on him through the cable box so he wouldn't have one. When he went to someone's house that had one he would cover the front with something, or leave.

 

[bobvick]

I worked with a man who swore that if the TV set was off, and plugged in to the wall, the "government" could watch you. Said he always made his wife unplug all the TV sets, especially in the bedroom before they went to bed.

 

[KAB]

My wife started to pressure me to switch, solely because of Showtime's Homeland. Told her NO. I said if we do, we lose the Hopper. She said, "OK, Nevermind"
That's my girl!!!
Did not even have to address ETF.

 

[dishcomm]

It's just entertainment. Regardless of bundling practices, why should missing a football game or a movie rise to the level of federal law.

Locals are somewhat the exception due to the public airwave / public interest components, but everything else is just fluff.

Public Affairs programming is a requirement of Local Television broadcasters as a condition of being granted a license to use the public airwaves.
However, the time a station must offer Public Affairs programming is small in comparison to the number of broadcast hours.

 

[dishcomm]

I worked with a man who swore that if the TV set was off, and plugged in to the wall, the "government" could watch you. Said he always made his wife unplug all the TV sets, especially in the bedroom before they went to bed.

During my tenure as a tech, I used to hear that a lot from older and usually rural dwellers