2021-22 NCAA Football Thread

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The ACC is dropping division play after this year and going to a 3-5-5 format (3 permanent annual opponents, and playing the other 10 teams every other year).


The ACC became the latest conference to scrap divisions in favor of a new scheduling format Tuesday, making 2022 the final year of the Atlantic and Coastal divisions.

Starting in 2023, the league announced it will move to a 3-5-5 format, in which each team has three permanent rivalry games played annually, with the other 10 opponents rotating on an every-other-year basis.

ACC's Permanent Rivalries In 2023​

Boston College: Miami, Pitt, Syracuse
Clemson: FSU, Georgia Tech, NC State
Duke: UNC, NC State, Wake Forest
Florida State: Clemson, Miami, Syracuse
Georgia Tech: Clemson, Louisville, Wake Forest
Louisville: Georgia Tech, Miami, Virginia
Miami: BC, FSU, Louisville
North Carolina: Duke, NC State, Virginia
NC State: Clemson, Duke, UNC
Pitt: BC, Syracuse, Virginia Tech
Syracuse: BC, FSU, Pitt
Virginia: Louisville, UNC, Virginia Tech
Virginia Tech: Pitt, Virginia, Wake Forest
Wake Forest: Duke, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech

Don't like who they gave Ga Tech for permanent opponents. While Clempson makes sense, neither Louisville or Wake Forest are traditional opponents. Really should have given us FSU to go with Clempson.
 
I'm thinking they will stay where they are for another year (at least) and see what happens, does another Conference form with Clemson the main cog.
ND ... Who knows ....
Clemson, Miami, Florida to the SEC.
 
Clemson, Miami, Florida to the SEC.
I don’t see Miami to the sec. Doesn’t fit. Clemson and FSU (which I assume you meant, since Florida is already there) do.


Id guess those two and someone like Ga tech(former member). Maybe Va tech (Doubtful). Possibly NC. Maybe NC and Duke to make it 20.
 
The “grant of rights” TV deal, which runs for more than another decade, makes moving out of the ACC is for it to dissolve.
 
I don’t see Miami to the sec. Doesn’t fit. Clemson and FSU (which I assume you meant, since Florida is already there) do.

Id guess those two and someone like Ga tech(former member). Maybe Va tech (Doubtful). Possibly NC. Maybe NC and Duke to make it 20.
While I'd love to see Ga Tech go back into the SEC, I don't see it happening as they already have the Atlanta market. The only way I see it happening is if the SEC does it to prevent the Big Ten from getting Ga Tech.

I agree that Miami doesn't fit, as the SEC is pretty much flagship State universities with the exception of Vanderbilt. For the same reason I don't see them going after Duke. UNC though is a different story (who happens to also be on the Big Ten want list).

Clempson and FSU would be ideal pickups for the SEC, and are not considered to be wanted by the Big Ten (who prefer academic schools).


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While I'd love to see Ga Tech go back into the SEC, I don't see it happening as they already have the Atlanta market. The only way I see it happening is if the SEC does it to prevent the Big Ten from getting Ga Tech.

I agree that Miami doesn't fit, as the SEC is pretty much flagship State universities with the exception of Vanderbilt. For the same reason I don't see them going after Duke. UNC though is a different story (who happens to also be on the Big Ten want list).

Clempson and FSU would be ideal pickups for the SEC, and are not considered to be wanted by the Big Ten (who prefer academic schools).


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F07EJ2no_s

The SEC doesn’t care about basketball schools, only football. They don’t want Duke or UNC.

I wonder if the ACC follows the Big East model and drops football.
 
The SEC doesn’t care about basketball schools, only football. They don’t want Duke or UNC.
Missouri wasn't exactly a football school.

North Carolina would be a big win for the SEC as it get's them in that State.
I wonder if the ACC follows the Big East model and drops football.
Doubtful, as they still have several traditional football schools in the conference.
 
The SEC doesn’t care about basketball schools, only football. They don’t want Duke or UNC.

I wonder if the ACC follows the Big East model and drops football.
Kentucky says hey!

Lol

The sec is the premier football conference for sure, but look at the past decade. They are strong in college basketball, those two teams would be a boon for that sport, plus getting them another state market.


I say both as I don’t see one going without the other.
 
Kentucky says hey!

Lol

The sec is the premier football conference for sure, but look at the past decade. They are strong in college basketball, those two teams would be a boon for that sport, plus getting them another state market.


I say both as I don’t see one going without the other.
College football is king, everything else is just a sideshow.
 
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No doubt it’s THE sport.
I can see college football becoming the minor leagues of the NFL. A 30 team league of the top schools that was the core of the BCS. All the other “smaller” football schools become what was division 1a.
 
So much for all those that say Streaming is the Only way to go ....
The Big Ten just agreed to a 7 year Billion dollar package that places weekly games on FOX and NBC and CBS ....
Sorry ESPN, you've been to much of a sec HOMER for the last 10-20 years.
 
So much for all those that say Streaming is the Only way to go ....
The Big Ten just agreed to a 7 year Billion dollar package that places weekly games on FOX and NBC and CBS ....
Sorry ESPN, you've been to much of a sec HOMER for the last 10-20 years.

Streaming is the only way to go. Nope. Plenty of life left in traditional linear TV. Many centuries probably.

CBS is the loser here. CBS had the first choice SEC game (yes, knickpickers, there were limits on how many times a particular team could appear, but it was more or less the "best game" that week) at 3:30. It walked away from the table about 18 months ago and then, with nothing to show on Saturdays coming up in a few years, simply panicked and gave the Big 10 more money than the SEC wanted for a 3:30 game, with Fox getting the first pick at noon, and CBS and NBC rotating the 2nd and 3rd picks. In a conference that is WAYYYYYYYYYYYY less deep than the SEC, where almost half the league has won the national championship in the last 25 years. (Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, Louisiana State, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Texas). Thus ABC will have the top SEC game at 3:30 every week, vs. a Big 10 game (not the top one) on CBS. Win for Disney. Purdue vs. Illinois or LSU-Texas A&M? Minnesota-Indiania or Florida-Georgia?

It is not a conspiracy theory to understand that ESPN, to the extent it can (of course it has to mention truly big things like the NCAA tournament or the World Series) simply does not cover conferences, leagues, or sports to which Disney is not involved. Ask the NHL.
 
What you said here is Mostly correct ... You kind of exaggerate the SEC and BT match ups .... if your gonna choose a low end match up in the BT, you should take Vanderbilt and Arkansas or something like that ....

You stated that the SEC is way deeper than the BT, ,I dispute that ... the SEC is no deeper than the BT after the top 3 ... actually, the SEC has thier Top 3, sometime 2 and sometime 4 teams, but its NOT all the way thru the conference.
Now that you've added TAM that makes it some years 4 Top teams.

You can look at the Top of the BT and come up with 3-4 Top teams each year, with them changing most years, much like the SEC ....

Right now, Ohio State and Alabama are right there with one another .... (I'm talking right now, not 10 years or 5 years back.)
Wisconsin is like LSU or a few others, sometimes there sometimes not.

You rattled off about 6 or 7 teams, but they haven't done much in the last 10 years .... Bama has been the team that has carried the SEC, much like Ohio State in the BT ...
Georgia has FINALLY appeared .... Florida is like any other BT team other than OSU.

What I'm saying is that the teams outside of the VERY Top are all pretty ordinary in both Conferences.
 
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