I was talking to someone about this the other day and they mentioned that a lot of factors possibly come into play on these 3 TP. THey said that the frequencies are very close and that some stb have trouble sorting the signal, and depending on the length or run on cable, condition of cable, dish size, lnb, polarity, diseqc switches ect. could be a contributing factor. He pointed out that many of the stations that receive these signals are using pretty high dollar setups and that is why they have no issue but in the fta world our receivers are one of the main drawbacks as well as dish size. He mentioned trying to run Rg-11 or moving a dish closer and or removing switches as examples to lower loss. I know i read elsewhere that the power levels seem to be kinda random too. I personally dont know, just passing along what i was told, and read. I did some experiments here last weekend and with my x2 m1hd+ box the q bounced around erratically, but on a sathawk pvr200hd box i was able to lock a picture, but had no sound as it doesnt have the proper audio decoder. I figure ill get a decent STB eventually but im on a personal spending freeze right now (can only spend for work related items). Hopefully some more people that know way more then i do can chime in.