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thanks very much - time for a little 4 play - LOL

anyone know where I can get 4play.exe ? Given the latest NPS deal. I would like to have it running smoothly by the end of the year.

I just got a qs1080 from ebay and the unit is flashing "init" on the LED with a small little red LED flashing on the bottom Any ideas ?

Thanks photoman... did not notice the P ... and If I am can be sure that the updates that do not show up on the second page are always DTV, then I am fine with it... I dont need those updates anyways...

Does anyone know why the front page of lyngsat with all the NA birds shows updates to the 3C bird, but you can not ever find what the change was when you click into the detailed TP page ? NOTE: all other birds on lyngsat seem to be fine...

Big question... can a previously subbed starchoice receiver get "other" DCII free to air channels ? or only these ones ? and... would a 4DTV receiver like a 922 get them ? I think so - right ?

I didnt know that DN did turbo - until i read more... it all comes together finally ;) CS8100 is DVB-S2 8PSK out of the box, which will get most of the current FTA channels out there (not sure about feeds)... and DN - which has a few FTA channels, uses turbo 8PSK which the CS8100 will NOT get...

I do not see how the CS8100 does 8PSK... it does look like it does the DVB-S2 MPEG4 , but only using QPSK ? is this right ? also - some articles are reading (e.g. TS in france experiment with 8PSK in 2003)... that there is a thing called turbo 8psk ? is that just a fancy name for 8psk ? or do...

From what I read - there is no such thing as DVB-S2 MPEG 2 HD or SD ?

So - I get a Quali-TV + CS8100 with 8PSK card and I can do 4:2:2 DVB-S SD or HD MPEG 2 (Quali-TV) 4:2:0 DVB-S SD or HD MPEG 2 (Quali-TV) 4:2:0 DVB-S SD or HD (MPEG 2 and MPEG4) (CS8100) 4:2:0 DVB-S2 SD or HD (MPEG2 and MPEG4) (CS8100) But I can not do... 4:2:2 DVB-S2 M4/M2 or 4:2:2...

Excellent news... looks like its worth to have some fun with the 36 incher and see what C band I get... my goal is to reduce the amount of motor movements I need... and using small fixed dishes takes up much less room than a bunch of 6 and 8 footers... have to see what comes in strong enough...

I have been looking at some footprint charts on lyngsat and investigating (google) some C band dish size discussions on the net... it appears that people have picked up C band channels on a 36 inch dish with a C band LNB... From what I read - there seems to be many birds with muxes that are...

Trying to figure out what is what... DVB-S2 and DVB-S 4:2:2 and 4:2:0 QPSK and 8PSK SD and HD What I need - which of these go together and which dont ? if took all combination of the above I would have 2^4 or 16 combinations In other words is there 4:2:2 , DVB-s, HD, QPSK signals ...

does this box do QPSK/MPEG4 SD and HD ? Does it have build in Dolby decoding ? to how many audio outputs ? The 4:2:2 is cool... is there somewhere you can order it in NA ?

excellent - makes sense... and she did mention about the affiliates... so that makes sense too thanks very much... PS> I think my friend watched the KU uplink channel, because that was how I caught on... he watches G25 for its foreign content and liked AMGTV when it was there

still dont know why KU is more money than C band for these providers. AMGTV seems to be saying that they can not afford the KU band prices... and by the looks of how much they have moved over the last year... started in KU, then to a few C band TPS, it looks like they are always bargaining for...

Was wondering if anyone knew why KU band was so much more expensive than C Band for these providers... got this email from AMGTV... My friend has a KU G25 setup and lost this channel - asked me to research it for him ------------------> Thank you for writing to AMGTV and for letting us...

I will call them - thanks... they look from the internet that they have better pricing, channels and support for X4...

That would be a good idea... I live in Silicon Valley... I could drive 50 miles in any direction... What I wonder though - If I get the maps... would someone like NPS be able to send the hit via X4 ? or would a hit also be an issue... I think you need hits every so often - right ?

I think 44/99 is OK for signal strength ? but I did not get a digital lock on any channels... not even sure the receiver is working... bought it second hand... need to find a good TP on X4 to ensure digital lock tests... any ideas ? also - it all doesnt matter if I can not get a Hit or...

no - this setup is strictly an X4 service setup... I have a fixed 36 inch pointed at the bird X4... I did notice that some channels (610) are black... and others like channel 1 are pixels... it also says "searching channel"... I have 44 signal and 99 quality... not sure if thats good or not...

do you know what channel for the hit... when I look at NPS web site it does not list X4 as a bird for getting a hit ? Also... it looks like I have some channel maps... I do get channels in the 600 for X4... I am just hoping that they never switched around any of them since this box was last...

So another question... along the lines of channel maps... I have this connected to a fixed 36 inch disk pointed to X4... I know NPS has a KU only service for 20 bucks... Will I get the maps I need this way ? and will they be able to hot the box through X4 ?

thanks for that info... I guess if the MAp does not contain the TP/VID/SID, then you can not get the channel. There use to be something called 4play I remember from years ago... is that still around ? or do the maps contain ALL channels possible ? not just advertised ?

I am pointed to X4... I was wondering if I can get a channel map from KU... this recvr has no C band connections... I called NPS - but they know nothing about satellites... did not even know that G16 and X4 were same thing... so 1) can I get channel map from KU 2) does the DSR922 show...