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We are almost done building our new house, I will list below what I have and would like to accomplish. Hopefully someone will be able to help me out.

I need to send a dish network signal to 6 locations.
I need to send a security camera signal to the same 6 locations
I need to send a OTA signal to the same six locations.

I only have ONE coax running to each of the 6 locations.

I will have dish come out and install new dishes at my house for satellites 110, 119, and 61.5

my guess is that they will use only the latest equipment. I plan on using a couple fta receivers as well.

What do I need to get, switches, diplexers, ect., to achieve this?

thanks in advance for your help.
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birddoggy, thank you for your insight and help. Here is what I was thinking.... please let me know if this could work.

1) get a 5x8 switch that works for dishntwrk
2) use a amplified 2x6 or 2x8 splitter for the ota and camera dvr
3) use diplexers, one feed from sat and one feed from splitter, to send all signals on one cable to the location, repeated for each location
4) use the same diplexers to seperate the signals at the locations, on feed goes into the receiver, the other goes into tv

Will this work?
aegrotatio
I'm extensively familiar with FTA and what is available.
I merely did not notice he said he wasn't using another dish to view actual FTA programming.

But my comment on persecuting FTA users still stands.
I am not going to start a flame war where I quote all the threads with posts from you and others that sarcasticly imply the OP is trying to steal service.
Even in this thread, it wasn't specifically stated he was trying to steal service, yet we get another implication from the peanut gallery that the OP is stealing service.
Just cut it out and let's talk about solutions and not publically guessing the OP's intentions.
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I'm extensively familiar with FTA and what is available.
I merely did not notice he said he wasn't using another dish to view actual FTA programming.

But my comment on persecuting FTA users still stands.
I am not going to start a flame war where I quote all the threads with posts from you and others that sarcasticly imply the OP is trying to steal service.
Even in this thread, it wasn't specifically stated he was trying to steal service, yet we get another implication from the peanut gallery that the OP is stealing service.
Just cut it out and let's talk about solutions and not publically guessing the OP's intentions.
You still don't get it!
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birddoggy, thank you for your insight and help. Here is what I was thinking.... please let me know if this could work.

1) get a 5x8 switch that works for dishntwrk
2) use a amplified 2x6 or 2x8 splitter for the ota and camera dvr
3) use diplexers, one feed from sat and one feed from splitter, to send all signals on one cable to the location, repeated for each location
4) use the same diplexers to seperate the signals at the locations, on feed goes into the receiver, the other goes into tv

Will this work?
The first Dish receivers and LNBF use legacy technology where an LNBF will send the Vertical/Right Polarity signals when one voltage is received, and then will send the Horizontal/Left Polarity signals when another voltage is received. However, the LNBF can only send one polarity at a time since they use the same frequencies between the LNBF and the Receiver.

Newer Dish Networks' LNBF and Receivers uses DishPro technology which uses "band stacking" where it can send both the Vertical/Right Polarity and the Horizontal/Left Polarity signals down the same line at the same time; which will allow you to have all of the transponders, and therefore, all of the channels at the same time, and on all of the receivers at the same time.

Basically, the DP34 is a DishPro 3x4 Switch. The 3 DishPro LNBF can send 6 sets of signals to the switch at one time, 3 Right Polarities and 3 Left Polarities. Then the DP34 can supply the correct signals to up to 4 tuners, and 12 tuners when 3 are bridged together. However, a dual tuner receiver will need 2 cables from the DP34, one for each tuner.

DishPro Plus technology is basically the same, except you do not need 2 cables to feed a dual tuner receiver. Of course this depends on you using a DishPro Plus Separator on the DishPro Plus (dual tuner) Receiver, and you must be using either a DishPro Plus Switch (DPP44) or a DishPro Plus LNBF (DPP Twin LNBF). When using a DPP Switch (DPP44), you can use either DishPro or DishPro Plus LNBF, but it is cheaper to use the DP LNBF.

I don't think there are any non-Dish Network switches that support band stacking. But more important, if you go with anything other than DishPro Plus technology, you will need 2 cables to each of your receivers, and you will need to replace your DishPro LNBF with Legacy Dual LNBF and then you will need two cables from each LNBF into a Legacy switch, such as a 6 x 8.


I do plan on using another dish for the fta receivers, but that was going to to looped in with existing sats. sorry if this has become an issue for some. I would just like some help with the wiring. your help is much appreciated.
The DishPro Plus 44 Switch will not work with other LNBF, only DP & DPP LNBF. So you will need additional wiring to feed an FTA LNBF/Dish to an FTA receiver; i.e., you can not feed it through the DPP44 and/or DP34.
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So, to answer your question.
Will this work?
I do not know of a 5 x 8 Dish compatible switch. I also think a 5 x 8 switch is 4 sat inputs and 1 OTA input, and each sat needs two inputs. So you could have 119R & 119L polarities, and 110R & 110L polarities, you you still need to get two more sat inputs (61.5R & 61.5L). But again, I'm not familiar with all of the FTA switches.

I think your suggestion on (3) and (4) is pretty much what I said before birddoggy supplied his drawing.

I think Birddoggy's suggestion is the way to go. However, it looks like you will need to purchase 3 additional 6.3 IR/UHF PRO Remotes to control the 3 TV1 Outputs from a remote location. And if you have a 2nd or 3rd HDTV, then you will need to feed those TV's like you feed the main room HDTV. Hopefully when using the cat5 cable for TV, you will not need it for anything else.

Good luck.
C
how about using 2 of these switches: JVI 35-DN34 35DN34 DP34 DISHPRO switch Dish Network SuperDish

I would take the ota and camera dvr signals and use a combiner 2x1 and run the wire into the fourth input of the switch above. from there I would tie each output to a room, and use a diplexer to split the sat signal from the ota/camera dvr at the receiver.
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how about using 2 of these switches: JVI 35-DN34 35DN34 DP34 DISHPRO switch Dish Network SuperDish

I would take the ota and camera dvr signals and use a combiner 2x1 and run the wire into the fourth input of the switch above. from there I would tie each output to a room, and use a diplexer to split the sat signal from the ota/camera dvr at the receiver.
I didn't see much specs on the JVI 35-DN34 Switch, but looks like; it is equivalent to the DP34, except it also has an OTA antenna input.

I don't know if you could bridge it with a DP34 and/or a DPP44, but you should be able to bridge two of those together which will give you 8 receiver ports, and no extra ports.
- 3 Dual Tuner Dish Receivers will use up 6 of the ports.
- 2 FTA Single Tuner Receivers will use up 2 of the ports.

In theory, combining the OTA and a modulated signal from the Security System into the Antenna Input should work.

I guess you would need diplexers at each of your receivers to break out the OTA signals.

Sounds like you are going to do the installation, vice having Dish arrange for the setup/installation of dishes and a switch.
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Now that I'm retired, obviously I have different health care insurance. I take 2 prescriptions. With my old insurance I didn't have to pay for either of them, now I do. It's not a huge amount but it led me to dig a little into the cost of prescription medications. I have been using Walgreens for the longest time. But what I found was that Walgreens price is 4.8 times more for one of my prescriptions and the other is 2.3 percent more compared to the lowest price pharmacy. If you pay for prescription medications you might want to have a look at trumprx and see if you can get a lower price.


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I run them through several different providers to see who has the lowest cost

Usually it's Walmart or Sam's + GoodRx

Also...


You can also price them through the CareCard and WellRx apps.

Sometimes Amazon Pharmacy is cheapest.
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I am fortunate that the couple things I take end up being no cost to me. So far!

I get shipped 90 day supply automatically by CVS via my Medicare Advantage plan.
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This is interesting, I saw this thread and thought I'd look into cost for my drugs and Neither of the sites show it, so it won't help me at all. :(
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TrumpRx?!?

I went on Medicare recently (not an "advantage" plan) and my prescriptions at HyVee were very low out of pocket. The clerk said she was putting them on "Good Rx".
Jimbo
TrumpRx?!?

I went on Medicare recently (not an "advantage" plan) and my prescriptions at HyVee were very low out of pocket. The clerk said she was putting them on "Good Rx".
When I went on Medicare, I was paying $10 a Month for my most expensive drug .... NOW I am paying $ 375 for the 1st 3 months and $120 for the rest of the year, every 3 months. (this is a Tier 4 drug) the rest of my drugs are Tier 1 and are free.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
My OTA is not working anymore. This started after the latest update. I have the OTA dongle with a OTA antenna that I've been using for years. My hopper does not recognize the dongle anymore and when I go to the OTA setting, it has a screen that says to plug a dongle into the USB. I tried unplugging and plugging back, in the same usb port and other ports. The Hopper does not recognize it. Anyone have same issue?
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Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
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Almighty1
Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
No updates but if you can get DISH Technical Operations to roll you back to H710 or earlier even though H708 would be best because it also eliminates another problem like in this comment, you will also no longer have the problem as long as you don't update manually or forced to any new version until the problem is fixed as the problem started in H711 and still exist in H712 and H713.
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Installed an off-air antenna a couple days ago for a customer who had just cancelled his Dish service. He had a dual off-air adapter and gave it to me. Cool. I'll keep it on the truck....might come in handy. Got to admit I don't watch anything as far as live tv goes anymore. Even if we have severe weather, our local channels will have a live feed on Youtube.
navychop
In other news, it was announced that the software fix for the two tin cans and a string will not be forthcoming. A hardware fix is required. However, that fix will let you receive stations from a gazillion miles away.

Truck roll charges may apply. Two year commitment required.
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Hi all. If you were using a single tuner USB OTA adapter that is no longer working, please PM me. Thanks. :)
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dfergie
Loose lips sink ships for her...
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Dang. That had to hurt. I would have not handled it that well. Surprised it wasn't brought up by Heff at the challenge.
dfergie
First rule - if you get a clue follow it immediately, 2nd - keep your stuff with you in a strange place, 3rd - pay attention to your ride... (pre first - don't go if you think you might not want to stay Rob)
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Loved the tribal🤣
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Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)
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More specifically, these:



A more scholarly story is here:

navychop
"WARNING Will Robinson!"
Don in CT
Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)
When I heard about this exploit I was wondering how quick you would be on it. :D
Scott Greczkowski
When I heard about this exploit I was wondering how quick you would be on it. :D
12 minutes after the patch was release I had it patched. :)
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
I was reading this article


That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.


Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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Sony is discontinuing it's last 4K disc player, Panasonic has been rumored to be doing the same, the end of physical media is unfortunately, about to happen.

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Got a Sony 700 at WM dot commie.

I think.

Ordered, anyway. Amazon let me go thru entire process but then said no inventory.

Hopefully,, WM will come thru.
dishstaller
Sony is discontinuing it's last 4K disc player, Panasonic has been rumored to be doing the same, the end of physical media is unfortunately, about to happen.
Hate to hear that. If you don't physically have something in your hand, you don't really own it.
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Hate to hear that. If you don't physically have something in your hand, you don't really own it.
Even a physical disc purchase is considered a license, just extremely harder to pull access vs digital.

But once new players are no longer sold and older players quit working, that takes care of the access to your library.

See LaserDiscs for one example of that happening.
ncted
Sony is discontinuing it's last 4K disc player, Panasonic has been rumored to be doing the same, the end of physical media is unfortunately, about to happen.

I am so done with Sony on so many levels. This is just one small piece of it.
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Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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navychop
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
primestar31
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
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It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
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I truly hope you are right.
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What bothers me is the total waste of broadcasting spectrum in this very crowded market. It has been almost three years now since KFOX converted their broadcast tower to ATSC 3.0 and moved all of their channels to other towers causing noticeable degradation of the picture quality.
I have a Sony TV with 3.0 capabilities but still use the 1.0 version of locals due to the fact that one or all of the 3.0 channels are often missing or unwatchable. In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.
The only thing that could motivate me to be interested in 3.0 would be if all of the minor networks (diginets) could be in at least 720P rather than blurry ultra-compressed 480i.
Three years is long enough to waste one of the few available RF frequencies in the area for this trial.
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.
navychop
In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.

They might notice the hand going into their pocket for their wallet.
navychop
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.

QFT. Of course, my preference involves a curb and some kicking.
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Van
Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
Who says dinner or lunch has to be the only good meals of the day?

Honey butter grits with scrambled eggs and grilled boneless pork ribs on flakey biscuits washed down with cranberry juice.
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Wound up at the Waffle House this morning. Got the two egg breakfast with coffee.

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Speaking of waffles, I'm going to put my mini waffle iron on stove so I'll remember to make waffles in the morning... Had some last week, been awhile.
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Dos cackleberrys over easy on top of 2 corned beef hash patties fried in skillet... Chocolate milk.
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Cold morning today, only 32 degrees. Fired up the oven and made cinnamon rolls (from a tube) and a pot of coffee.
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2 egg burrito with bacon and a side of hashbrowns. Coffee.

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