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BoisePaul
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
About a month ago, I switched from E* to D*, with the reason being HD content (yeah, yeah, grass greener, I know). Anyhow, I just got a call from E* wondering why I left, so I told the lady exactly why. She then proceeded to tell me that "DISH is the leader in HD" and offers over 70 channels that I can subscribe to today with more on the way. I said, "So you're telling me that I can subscribe to 70 channels of HD with DISH right now?" with her responding "Yes." This resulted in an argument. I asked if they were including all of the HD RSNs (which I can't see, obviously), and she said no, that the cound doesn't include HD RSNs or premiums. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? I just don't get it. Perhaps if they had said that they're not there yet, but are working on it, that would have sat better, but I'm astonished that they would just call and outright lie. Is E* really that much in denial that they have to resort to stuff like this?

Please note that this isn't meant to be inflammatory, and I know that I'm now a D* sub posting in the E* forum and as such should watch my step. I'm not trying to start a "mine's better than your's" thread, but if for some reason it devolves into that, please move to the WarZone.
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Hall
The next person who gets a call like this, tell the person "I've got a paper and pencil ready. Please read me the list of these 70 channels." and see how it goes. :)
BoisePaul
The next person who gets a call like this, tell the person "I've got a paper and pencil ready. Please read me the list of these 70 channels." and see how it goes. :)
Tried that - got much backpedaling. Basically, the answer was that she couldn't name them, but they're there, and if I don't agree then I'm wrong. I thought the customer was always right - it's bad practice to tell the customer that "you're wrong, sir" and then not be able to back it up.

If I hadn't gotten mad and ended the call, I would have brought up that a large number of the channels are VOOM, which I used to appreciate, but lately - not so much...
T
Dish is putting their stakes in their DVRs. They know they currently do not have the HD count, so they are really trying to pump their DVR. "Better than T***." "Award winning DVR." "The best DVR out there." ... etc.

It is my guess that Dish is hoping that their DVRs will keep people enough until they can get a bird or two up ...
charlesrshell
Dish is putting their stakes in their DVRs. They know they currently do not have the HD count, so they are really trying to pump their DVR. "Better than T***." "Award winning DVR." "The best DVR out there." ... etc.

It is my guess that Dish is hoping that their DVRs will keep people enough until they can get a bird or two up ...

Well, that is what is keeping me with DISH. The DVRs are pretty nice. I am more for quality than the competition having more HD channels. DISH will catch up. They just have had bad luck with satellite launches. Not their fault. I just wish they had respect for SatelliteGuys and come out with some kinda statement of info.
ssmaniac
I'm a recent/current E* sub after 10 years with D*. I'm not getting into a debate over which is better, b/c it's a matter of preference, but I assure you that D* has called me 3-4 times to "come back" and outright told me lies.... The one that I recall now is that E*'s DVR could not service more than one TV. When I told her that I had one DVR/box (722) servicing 2 TV's, she replied that they both had to watch the same thing. When I told her, no, that's not correct, she stated that it was "dangerous" to hook up a second TV to the DVR as it could cause damage to the DVR and TV's!! Another caller told me that E* didn't have any HD that D* didn't have! I personally don't think it's a E* or D* practice to encourage these salespeople to lie, but they certainly don't appear to be actively monitoring or discouraging it, either!
kokomogator
Tried that - got much backpedaling. Basically, the answer was that she couldn't name them, but they're there, and if I don't agree then I'm wrong. I thought the customer was always right - it's bad practice to tell the customer that "you're wrong, sir" and then not be able to back it up.

If I hadn't gotten mad and ended the call, I would have brought up that a large number of the channels are VOOM, which I used to appreciate, but lately - not so much...

I think I must have gotten the same person that you did....all she wanted to do was tell me how wrong I was and argue....what great customer retention!?!
kokomogator
Well, that is what is keeping me with DISH. The DVRs are pretty nice. I am more for quality than the competition having more HD channels. DISH will catch up. They just have had bad luck with satellite launches. Not their fault. I just wish they had respect for SatelliteGuys and come out with some kinda statement of info.

Honestly, I was concerned about switching from Dish because of the DVR reviews but I can honestly tell you that after going from a 622 to a HR21, I have little complaint...they just rolled out a software enhancement that matches and even surpassing some of the 622 capabilities. Only thing I miss is the 2 tv capability and the OTA tuner but the OTA tuner issue should be a mute point by next month. I also love the fact that I can program my DVR from work via the internet.

And as to compression, HD PQ is much better on Direct. Ultimately, people choose a carrier based on what their own preferences are, not on what someone else does.
kokomogator
Dish is putting their stakes in their DVRs. They know they currently do not have the HD count, so they are really trying to pump their DVR. "Better than T***." "Award winning DVR." "The best DVR out there." ... etc.

It is my guess that Dish is hoping that their DVRs will keep people enough until they can get a bird or two up ...

Just a piece of equipment to broadcast content....people don't watch TV for the equipment that's used, they watch it for content.
Tom Bombadil
I'm a recent/current E* sub after 10 years with D*. I'm not getting into a debate over which is better, b/c it's a matter of preference,

I know you said that you weren't going to get into a debate, but I don't understand why anyone who values HD would switch from D* to E*. Of course, someone could have a customer satisfaction issue with D*.

I've been with E* for almost 11 years, but if I were a new sub signing up right now, I'd go with D* without hesitation.
ssmaniac
I know you said that you weren't going to get into a debate, but I don't understand why anyone who values HD would switch from D* to E*. Of course, someone could have a customer satisfaction issue with D*.

I've been with E* for almost 11 years, but if I were a new sub signing up right now, I'd go with D* without hesitation.


I didn't have any problem with DD*, but I had only 1 SD box with D* w/ no DVR (back in '97 or so when I started with D* HD and DVRs were not on radar). I just built a new house in October, with multiple rooms prewired. I liked the idea of one HD DVR w/ multiple tuners at no upfront cost. ( I tried talking to D* retention to see if they would cut me a deal on HD DVR, but they still wanted $199 for HD DVR). With just one 722, I get HD on my main TV, and feed SD on tuner 2 to bedrooms, basement (for wife, kids----I get the HD if I want). I figure E* will catch up--My biggest gripe is lack of HD locals here in Cincinnati (I get limited OTA).....:(
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Now that I'm retired, obviously I have different health care insurance. I take 2 prescriptions. With my old insurance I didn't have to pay for either of them, now I do. It's not a huge amount but it led me to dig a little into the cost of prescription medications. I have been using Walgreens for the longest time. But what I found was that Walgreens price is 4.8 times more for one of my prescriptions and the other is 2.3 percent more compared to the lowest price pharmacy. If you pay for prescription medications you might want to have a look at trumprx and see if you can get a lower price.


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comfortably_numb
I run them through several different providers to see who has the lowest cost

Usually it's Walmart or Sam's + GoodRx

Also...


You can also price them through the CareCard and WellRx apps.

Sometimes Amazon Pharmacy is cheapest.
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K
I am fortunate that the couple things I take end up being no cost to me. So far!

I get shipped 90 day supply automatically by CVS via my Medicare Advantage plan.
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Jimbo
This is interesting, I saw this thread and thought I'd look into cost for my drugs and Neither of the sites show it, so it won't help me at all. :(
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
My OTA is not working anymore. This started after the latest update. I have the OTA dongle with a OTA antenna that I've been using for years. My hopper does not recognize the dongle anymore and when I go to the OTA setting, it has a screen that says to plug a dongle into the USB. I tried unplugging and plugging back, in the same usb port and other ports. The Hopper does not recognize it. Anyone have same issue?
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Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
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Almighty1
Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
No updates but if you can get DISH Technical Operations to roll you back to H710 or earlier even though H708 would be best because it also eliminates another problem like in this comment, you will also no longer have the problem as long as you don't update manually or forced to any new version until the problem is fixed as the problem started in H711 and still exist in H712 and H713.
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dishstaller
Installed an off-air antenna a couple days ago for a customer who had just cancelled his Dish service. He had a dual off-air adapter and gave it to me. Cool. I'll keep it on the truck....might come in handy. Got to admit I don't watch anything as far as live tv goes anymore. Even if we have severe weather, our local channels will have a live feed on Youtube.
navychop
In other news, it was announced that the software fix for the two tin cans and a string will not be forthcoming. A hardware fix is required. However, that fix will let you receive stations from a gazillion miles away.

Truck roll charges may apply. Two year commitment required.
brittanygarden
Hi all. If you were using a single tuner USB OTA adapter that is no longer working, please PM me. Thanks. :)
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dfergie
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
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dfergie
Loose lips sink ships for her...
teachsac
Dang. That had to hurt. I would have not handled it that well. Surprised it wasn't brought up by Heff at the challenge.
dfergie
First rule - if you get a clue follow it immediately, 2nd - keep your stuff with you in a strange place, 3rd - pay attention to your ride... (pre first - don't go if you think you might not want to stay Rob)
teachsac
Loved the tribal🤣
Former member 209992
Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Scott Greczkowski
Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)
harshness
More specifically, these:



A more scholarly story is here:

navychop
"WARNING Will Robinson!"
Don in CT
Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)
When I heard about this exploit I was wondering how quick you would be on it. :D
Scott Greczkowski
When I heard about this exploit I was wondering how quick you would be on it. :D
12 minutes after the patch was release I had it patched. :)
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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If You Don't Know Me By Now - Simply Red
Bobby
You'll Always Be Loved By Me - Brooks & Dunn
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You'll Always Be the One - Dinah Shore
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Still the One - Orleans
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One Toke Over The Line - Brewer and Shipley
Bruce
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
I was reading this article


That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.


Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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Bruce
Sony is discontinuing it's last 4K disc player, Panasonic has been rumored to be doing the same, the end of physical media is unfortunately, about to happen.

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navychop
Got a Sony 700 at WM dot commie.

I think.

Ordered, anyway. Amazon let me go thru entire process but then said no inventory.

Hopefully,, WM will come thru.
dishstaller
Sony is discontinuing it's last 4K disc player, Panasonic has been rumored to be doing the same, the end of physical media is unfortunately, about to happen.
Hate to hear that. If you don't physically have something in your hand, you don't really own it.
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Bruce
Hate to hear that. If you don't physically have something in your hand, you don't really own it.
Even a physical disc purchase is considered a license, just extremely harder to pull access vs digital.

But once new players are no longer sold and older players quit working, that takes care of the access to your library.

See LaserDiscs for one example of that happening.
ncted
Sony is discontinuing it's last 4K disc player, Panasonic has been rumored to be doing the same, the end of physical media is unfortunately, about to happen.

I am so done with Sony on so many levels. This is just one small piece of it.
M
Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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navychop
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
primestar31
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
star trek GIF


It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
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navychop
I truly hope you are right.
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Mister B
What bothers me is the total waste of broadcasting spectrum in this very crowded market. It has been almost three years now since KFOX converted their broadcast tower to ATSC 3.0 and moved all of their channels to other towers causing noticeable degradation of the picture quality.
I have a Sony TV with 3.0 capabilities but still use the 1.0 version of locals due to the fact that one or all of the 3.0 channels are often missing or unwatchable. In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.
The only thing that could motivate me to be interested in 3.0 would be if all of the minor networks (diginets) could be in at least 720P rather than blurry ultra-compressed 480i.
Three years is long enough to waste one of the few available RF frequencies in the area for this trial.
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.
navychop
In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.

They might notice the hand going into their pocket for their wallet.
navychop
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.

QFT. Of course, my preference involves a curb and some kicking.
Van
Van
Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
Who says dinner or lunch has to be the only good meals of the day?

Honey butter grits with scrambled eggs and grilled boneless pork ribs on flakey biscuits washed down with cranberry juice.
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TRG
Wound up at the Waffle House this morning. Got the two egg breakfast with coffee.

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Speaking of waffles, I'm going to put my mini waffle iron on stove so I'll remember to make waffles in the morning... Had some last week, been awhile.
dfergie
Dos cackleberrys over easy on top of 2 corned beef hash patties fried in skillet... Chocolate milk.
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Cold morning today, only 32 degrees. Fired up the oven and made cinnamon rolls (from a tube) and a pot of coffee.
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TRG
2 egg burrito with bacon and a side of hashbrowns. Coffee.

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