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oncewaslost
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I bought one from Glorystar a year ago for about $45 + shipping. It worked great until a couple weeks ago, it didn't survive a thunder storm. Glorystar still had this lnbf for sale on their web site two weeks ago, but I procrastinated and today do not see it on their site any more.

Does anyone know of any other sources for a good inexpensive dual c-band lnbf?

The flea-bay arena has a bunch of "dual polarity" c-band lnbf's. What kind of bs are they trying to pull with that kind of description:rolleyes:
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Anole
Gabsphere -
yep, great minds think alike.
I just wonder how I forgot the Eagle Aspen last time this came up. :rolleyes:

OnceWasLost -
Yea, I saw that minimum requirement for 210 pcs.
Well, if they were cheap enough, you and your 20 closest buddies could have 10 each, probably for less than the price of ordering one from Australia! :)

But regarding the bandstacked, you're right, no good way to integrate it with an old C-band receiver.
See below.

TruckRacer
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Your question got me thinking.
You could hook the E/A to the H side (18v) of a 2x4 multiswitch, and then you tell the receiver you only want Horiz transponders and let it blind scan.
That would get all the channels, both Vert and Horiz
Iceberg and others have discussed the basic concept - just not this way with the switch.

Then, if you were to use a 4x4 multiswitch instead, the 22khz would select either that C-band LNB, or whatever you hooked to the other two inputs...
Would be a bastard system, and I'd hate to recommend it to the average user.
It certainly doesn't belong in the Switches Simplified thread - it's not simple! :D

But if you recall, Iceberg did something like this once, where he hooked the H input of a multiswitch to one LNB and the L input to another.
In his case, he had specific birds where that worked.
Still, his programming was... uhhh... imaginative, to say the least. :cool:
I'll let him sell you on the idea.

The other thing (not hardly cost effective!) that came to mind is something that Dish Network used to have to let Legacy receivers talk to bandstacked (DishPro) LNBs.
Think of it as as de-stacker. It was called a DishPro Legacy Adapter.
You might need two to feed a multiswitch properly, but the result would be something you actually could feed into a 4DTV receiver.
Problem is, I only think it would work, and unless you just had two of them laying around, they're kinda spendy.

Skynyrd -
As mentioned above, there's no cheap solution unless SatAV gets restocked.

The Eagle Aspen is a good solution if you're open to new ideas.
But if you're trying to retrofit an old system, it may be an up-hill battle.
There is no separate solution that's cheap. The receiver needs to deal with it.

A Corotor is not particularly cheap, and only gives one polarity at a time, so it's not an appropriate alternative for this discussion.
Getting one for free is certainly attractive (and possible).
But then you are required to have a receiver that can control the skew servo.
And I'm 100% sure I don't want to go back to the 80's for that. - :eek:

edit: oh, you dirty guy! :) Ya changed Corotor to Bullseye II
Okay, now you're talking! And ya better be sitting on a tall wallet, too!
skynyrd
Skynyrd -
As mentioned above, there's no cheap solution unless SatAV gets restocked.

The Eagle Aspen is a good solution if you're open to new ideas.
But if you're trying to retrofit an old system, it may be an up-hill battle.
There is no separate solution that's cheap. The receiver needs to deal with it.

A Corotor is not particularly cheap, and only gives one polarity at a time, so it's not an appropriate alternative for this discussion.
Getting one for free is certainly attractive (and possible).
But then you are required to have a receiver that can control the skew servo.
And I'm 100% sure I don't want to go back to the 80's for that. - :eek:

edit: oh, you dirty guy! :) Ya changed Corotor to Bullseye II
Okay, now you're talking! And ya better be sitting on a tall wallet, too!

Lol.. Yeah, you caught me... I looked at it after I typed it and thought... Is that right? Yeah, definitely want a Bullseye II.. Would be nice to have everything I would need there.. I have been investigating getting a Charparral Dual Feed horn and 2 20deg Chaparral LNB's from Prime Focus.. (since I do have a KU dish that I can use for that)... that would be a little expensive, but it would be the same as what were trying to do.

I wish Sadoun or SatAV would stock the dual C-Band LNB's again. They come in handy for people who want to be able to connect up all of their satellites... and they're a cheap solution..

About the Eagle Aspen LNB: The bandstacked idea kinda concerned me.. but you can't beat 20 bucks for that LNB... as long as it works! I would probably only be using this for DVB, I'm just using an analog reciever to change polarity through the servo, and to move the dish... Im using a Coolsat 5000 and a Fortec Lifetime Ultra to do my DVB.. and I saw that they support OCS... so Im guessing i should be OK using these...
Anole
Well, I'd grab Brian at SatAV and shake him 'till his teeth wrattle. - :D
If that doesn't work, get the Eagle Aspen.
As you say, your receivers should support it just fine.
Maybe Sadoun will give you a deal with a Gbox, and then you can toss the analog hardware.
truckracer
I have a bullseye feedhorn with two ku and two c band lnbs connected to multiswitches.
Great performance.
truckracer
I found this cheaper dual c and dual ku feedhorn.

C-BAND Satellite Feedhorns FREE GROUND SHIPPING LOWER 48 STATES

get on ebay and order some cheap lnbs. I use those cheap bsc-211's c band lnbs and eagle aspen .6 ku cheapies. They work great.

my two multiswitches were 6.99 each on ebay plus shipping. (zinwell 4x3).
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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It states the average amount they are under water is OVER $7,000. :eek

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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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DIRECTV Stream/Internet added Ch 4105 SportsGrid
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Club sandwich and corn chowder. Iced tea.
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Chili dog bowl, water… (homemade chili)
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Leftover wanton soup and pork fried rice. Water.
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Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.
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arlo
A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.
dishstaller
That's all I got.
That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc
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…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.
harshness
If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

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Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.