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This is a very similar issue to the one in the thread Coolsat 5000 Can't receive CW on G11 but the fix proposed there doesn't work because you cannot edit the frequency or symbol rate of an existing channel, only the name and the PIDS (why, oh why would they not allow you to edit the frequency or symbol rate?!?). There is a way to do a manual scan and even to enter PIDS manually, but (as with the Coolsat) it seems that a manual scan just won't pick up those channels. If I could export my existing channel list via the USB port (what idiot never considered that anyone might want to do that?!?) I could try editing them in manually via the channel editor but I don't really want to lose all the other channels I've scanned and entered.
Thanks to stogie5150's help I am now able to receive the NBC HD feeds, but the aspect ratio isn't right - it's compressing a widescreen picture into a 4x3 aspect ratio (so everyone looks very thin) and no combination of button presses seems to have any effect. I'm feeding the signal into a standard definition (analog) TV using the video and audio outputs, but the other HD signals I've found are properly letterboxed with dark bands top and bottom (as are terrestrial HDTV signals). The NBC feeds are the only ones that exhibit the strange property of filling the screen both vertically AND horizontally, but compressing the picture horizontally. The desire to get the NBC feeds was one of the main reasons I wanted one of these so I hope someone can tell me how to fix this issue (buying a HDTV set isn't an option right now, and I'm not sure that would fix the problem anyway... I suspect it would show a 4x3 compressed picture with black vertical sidebars on a widescreen HDTV set!).
At least the PVR seems to work, however it seems a bit limited in functionality... I tried to play something I recorded last night and when I tried to skip a part of the previous show (which ran over a bit) the sound did this strange skipping where it dropped out for about half a second every few seconds (as if the sound was playing a bit faster than the video, then it had to stop and let the video catch up). When I stopped playback and started from the beginning then it played fine. I have to experiment with this some more but there is only so much one can do in one evening and I was up WAAAAY too late messing with this thing as it was.
Oh, and it DOES seem to convert AC3 audio internally and send it out the stereo audio outputs, so that's a plus also. If I could resolve the issues with the CW and the NBC-HD feeds I'd be very happy. If I could find some way to export the channel list from the receiver to the USB stick, I'd be ecstatic!
Thanks to stogie5150's help I am now able to receive the NBC HD feeds, but the aspect ratio isn't right - it's compressing a widescreen picture into a 4x3 aspect ratio (so everyone looks very thin) and no combination of button presses seems to have any effect. I'm feeding the signal into a standard definition (analog) TV using the video and audio outputs, but the other HD signals I've found are properly letterboxed with dark bands top and bottom (as are terrestrial HDTV signals). The NBC feeds are the only ones that exhibit the strange property of filling the screen both vertically AND horizontally, but compressing the picture horizontally. The desire to get the NBC feeds was one of the main reasons I wanted one of these so I hope someone can tell me how to fix this issue (buying a HDTV set isn't an option right now, and I'm not sure that would fix the problem anyway... I suspect it would show a 4x3 compressed picture with black vertical sidebars on a widescreen HDTV set!).
At least the PVR seems to work, however it seems a bit limited in functionality... I tried to play something I recorded last night and when I tried to skip a part of the previous show (which ran over a bit) the sound did this strange skipping where it dropped out for about half a second every few seconds (as if the sound was playing a bit faster than the video, then it had to stop and let the video catch up). When I stopped playback and started from the beginning then it played fine. I have to experiment with this some more but there is only so much one can do in one evening and I was up WAAAAY too late messing with this thing as it was.
Oh, and it DOES seem to convert AC3 audio internally and send it out the stereo audio outputs, so that's a plus also. If I could resolve the issues with the CW and the NBC-HD feeds I'd be very happy. If I could find some way to export the channel list from the receiver to the USB stick, I'd be ecstatic!
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You most certainly CAN edit them. All you have to to is, in the scan screen, highlight the parameter you want to change ( frequency,SR) and THEN press any number on the remote and a small EDIT/ADD box will pop up. Select EDIT, and edit your parameter however you want, then press OK and you are DONE!
Hey Keith, anyway to do something like with the Quali TV?
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I wish Jim
Problem is when you change the TP on the Q it keeps the old channel logged. On the Coolsat 5000 if you change the TP info in a manual scan the channels stay in there but change frequencies
so for us to log CW in what most of us do is log in EWTN channels
Then go in and edit the pids to CW
Then change the transponder info for CW but dont scan the TP. Just save it
Thats how we get CW on the Coolsats since they dont do manual pid entry
Hey Keith, anyway to do something like with the Quali TV?
I wish Jim
Problem is when you change the TP on the Q it keeps the old channel logged. On the Coolsat 5000 if you change the TP info in a manual scan the channels stay in there but change frequencies
so for us to log CW in what most of us do is log in EWTN channels
Then go in and edit the pids to CW
Then change the transponder info for CW but dont scan the TP. Just save it
Thats how we get CW on the Coolsats since they dont do manual pid entry
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Well, talk about being easy but not the slightest bit obvious... I don't know if I would have ever thought to try that! Know any other non-obvious controls like that?
Anyway, here is what *I* did... it's a small variation on the previously mentioned technique. Not sure why I did it this way since the other way would probably have worked just as well, but anyway...
I had previously entered the 3720 frequency and 26.700 SR, so I did Menu|Installation|Channel Search|0000 (PIN)|, selected 91.0W Galaxy 17 (C) as the satellite, changed the scan mode to Manual, made sure it was on 3720 and then changed the symbol rate to 26.667. Bear in mind that my C-band dish position is controlled by my old analog receiver, so I physically moved the dish to point at Galaxy 14 (125.0W) and then hit the red button on the Diamond remote to scan. It scanned in a bunch of TBN channels on 3720. I then physically moved the dish back to Galaxy 17, changed the symbol rate back to 26.700, and exited out of that screen.
I then went to Channel Manager|Delete Channels|0000 (PIN) and moved the bar until I was over the first non-HD, non-AC3 channel. I hit the green button to edit, changed the name and PIDS for the first CW feed (CW East|101|102|101), and exited out of the Edit Channels box. Moved the bar to the next standard definition feed and repeated the process twice, to enter the other two CW feeds. Then I moved the bar over all the other channels that had just been added from that TBN mux (other than the three I had changed), hit OK to mark them for deletion, and exited that screen.
I'm sure the other way would have worked just as well, it just made a bit more sense to me to do it that way for some reason.
So, one problem resolved - now if only we could figure out how to get the NBC feeds to display properly....
I did find one other issue though. The clock on this unit seems to be unreliable. If you set it to use GMT with a local offset, it seems to get its time reference from different places... I wish you could pick one channel and say to use that channel only for a time reference - anyway, last night the time was accurate, today it was three hours behind and I have no idea why. I have now tried switching it to not use GMT (which I suspect really means to not use an external reference) but IIRC I had it that way to begin with and it wasn't keeping time accurately. So we'll see. On the Pansat, an inaccurate clock was merely an inconvenience, but on a unit with a PVR it makes it pretty difficult to schecule a recording. Still experimenting with that, though.
Thanks again, stogie5150 and everyone else who commented.
You most certainly CAN edit them. All you have to to is, in the scan screen, highlight the parameter you want to change ( frequency,SR) and THEN press any number on the remote and a small EDIT/ADD box will pop up. Select EDIT, and edit your parameter however you want, then press OK and you are DONE!
Well, talk about being easy but not the slightest bit obvious... I don't know if I would have ever thought to try that! Know any other non-obvious controls like that?
Anyway, here is what *I* did... it's a small variation on the previously mentioned technique. Not sure why I did it this way since the other way would probably have worked just as well, but anyway...
I had previously entered the 3720 frequency and 26.700 SR, so I did Menu|Installation|Channel Search|0000 (PIN)|, selected 91.0W Galaxy 17 (C) as the satellite, changed the scan mode to Manual, made sure it was on 3720 and then changed the symbol rate to 26.667. Bear in mind that my C-band dish position is controlled by my old analog receiver, so I physically moved the dish to point at Galaxy 14 (125.0W) and then hit the red button on the Diamond remote to scan. It scanned in a bunch of TBN channels on 3720. I then physically moved the dish back to Galaxy 17, changed the symbol rate back to 26.700, and exited out of that screen.
I then went to Channel Manager|Delete Channels|0000 (PIN) and moved the bar until I was over the first non-HD, non-AC3 channel. I hit the green button to edit, changed the name and PIDS for the first CW feed (CW East|101|102|101), and exited out of the Edit Channels box. Moved the bar to the next standard definition feed and repeated the process twice, to enter the other two CW feeds. Then I moved the bar over all the other channels that had just been added from that TBN mux (other than the three I had changed), hit OK to mark them for deletion, and exited that screen.
I'm sure the other way would have worked just as well, it just made a bit more sense to me to do it that way for some reason.
So, one problem resolved - now if only we could figure out how to get the NBC feeds to display properly....
I did find one other issue though. The clock on this unit seems to be unreliable. If you set it to use GMT with a local offset, it seems to get its time reference from different places... I wish you could pick one channel and say to use that channel only for a time reference - anyway, last night the time was accurate, today it was three hours behind and I have no idea why. I have now tried switching it to not use GMT (which I suspect really means to not use an external reference) but IIRC I had it that way to begin with and it wasn't keeping time accurately. So we'll see. On the Pansat, an inaccurate clock was merely an inconvenience, but on a unit with a PVR it makes it pretty difficult to schecule a recording. Still experimenting with that, though.
Thanks again, stogie5150 and everyone else who commented.
Don't feel bad fellas, I have TWO Diamonds and I cannot even TUNE the NBC mux for some reason, and, given my recent RTN S2 problems, I am sacred to death to mess with the channel list lest I use THOSE...
My guess it is the fact that y'all are using a 4X3 TV, with widescreen feeds, with a receiver that just might not be the best in the world at scaling ( gee, ya think? It cant do much of ANYTHING GREAT, but its the best we have, and that should tell ya something).
If I can ever get one of mine to scan them again, I have one of the Diamonds on a 4X3 CRT TV, and I'll let y'all know how they display.
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For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.
They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.
Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.
On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.
It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.
I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.
Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.
On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.
It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.
I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Has anyone subscribed to NBA League Pass for 2026-27 and try to link their account to NBA.com to stream League Pass? I purchased it for 2026-27, and when I linked, I got a message saying success, but then I receive an error that my linked subscription does not include the preseason games for NBA League Pass. Is that how it has always been? I know satellite doesn't have the preseason games on the NBA League Pass channels, but I thought that I was able to stream the preseason once I linked my account on NBA.com?
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Nah, you just don't understand how ignore works, which is why you made your own NFL thread thinking there wasn't one
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.
At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade..
. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
You should have looked in the APP STORE instead.
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Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.
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Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.
You have a different offer that is free for a shorter timeframe which is different than the one that I and bnewt saw without defining the promotion period as I sent the question to DISH Care via Facebook Messenger and this is the response I got back 20 minutes ago.
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