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Greetings,

I live too far out for cable TV and have not gone with satellite TV in quite some time.

Right now I have a 27" SDTV with a Samsung DTB-H260F digital ATSC receiver hooked in via component cables for OTA. The TV will do 16:9 by actually shutting off the upper & lower portions of the screen instead of just drawing black at the top and bottom. So digital programming does look very sharp, and eventually, I will get a HDTV/Digital TV..

I would like to receive digital and possibly some analog C-Band programming, but I'm unsure if I want to go with the 4dtv DSR922 / HDD200 or the DSR410.

I'm not really interested in receiving lots of movie channels or HDTV programming.

I'll be grabbing a dish from my neighbor, it's in good condition and is 8.5'.

Ideally, I need to keep the setup as simple as possible (within reason) for the Wife and Kids.

From your experiences, what are the pros/cons of either the DSR922 / HDD200 or the DSR410?

What would I need to receive analog C-Band signals? I'm looking at the channel charts to see what's up there right now.

Price is important, but if I invest in a 4dtv I'd like to think it'll be around for a good 5+ years, or maybe more digital/HDTV options will come down the pipeline in a couple years for C-Band.

I just don't like the TOS and customer service for DN or DTV and living in VT, 18" pizza pans get snowed in pretty easily.

The channel options for digital via the DSR922 or the DSR410 are quite reasonable and prices are to my tastes.

Thanks,

~ryan
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14karat
I don't think C-Band will be going away anytime soon. ;)
Most analog receivers can be had for a song (or less if you sing as bad as me :) )
Just my opinion, not sure if I'd spend the cash on the HDD200. The 4D receivers are great for the subscription channels.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the 410 includes dish mover capability where the 920 & 922 will.
You can get the 922 for the subs and moving the dish and slave a HD FTA receiver to that for everything else. That's the route I would take with a single dish.
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I don't think C-Band will be going away anytime soon. ;)
Most analog receivers can be had for a song (or less if you sing as bad as me :) )
Just my opinion, not sure if I'd spend the cash on the HDD200. The 4D receivers are great for the subscription channels.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the 410 includes dish mover capability where the 920 & 922 will.
You can get the 922 for the subs and moving the dish and slave a HD FTA receiver to that for everything else. That's the route I would take with a single dish.


Hmm .... lots to think about.

I do like the idea of the $922 over the 410 when it comes to dish moving. But then again, for entry level and the digital programming on W5(AMC18) ..... I might just do it.

I'll have to consult the Wife Factor as she runs the piggy bank right now.


I'm glad that C-Band stuff won't disappear. And I can save a few bucks by paying for a full year of service at a time.

But FTA C-Band and Ku-Band does sound fun and looks like there is a lot out there.

Maybe I'll get the DSR410 for the family TV and then get a HD FTA receiver for the TV in the basement for FTA feed searcing. I use the TV in the basement for OTA DX'ing, though I'm in a bad location, I still pull in Montreal from 140 miles away (not digital though, no transmitters on Mt. Royal yet for digital, all are at the base). I'm located in a valley at 500' +- elevation.

Thanks for the info. Anybody else, feel free to chime in.

~ryan
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Do you know if the Dish you are getting already has Ku on it?

Maybe I'll get the DSR410 for the family TV and then get a HD FTA receiver for the TV in the basement for FTA feed searcing.
If you are going to search, you still need a way to move the BUD and control the Polarity.
Almost all FTA receivers, no HD that I know of, can not.

I'm glad that C-Band stuff won't disappear.
Don't confuse Analog with C Band, two different things.
There are plenty on Ku Band, but C Band is where it's at for Live Feeds, weather has little effect on it's quality.

I'd get a known good 920 or 922 and slave an HD FTA(DVB-S2 if possible).
Then add a good Blind Scanning receiver for searching.
dunnsept
I just picked up 2 4dtv receivers. got one hooked up and programmed through NPS. GREAT picture. Going with a full year of service at a time is a great option. When I look at E* I was dumping $660 a year! Almost the same channels (minus nickelodeon) is like 399! that savings is what I used to convince SWMBO that the price of the 4dtv receiver was justified ;-)
truckracer
I have two c-band dishes- A 7.5' and 10' sami mesh. Both have C and Ku capability.
I have an analog receiver for dish moving and a few analog feeds that are left.
I use a DSR-905 sidecar for subscription from NPS.
For FTA I use a Pansat 9200 HD with the optional DVB S-2 8PSK tuner board. I just installed the board today. Very happy with it.

With FTA on C-band with a good HD capable box that has blind scan or smart search to scan in tranponder freq's automatically you won't be short on stuff to watch.
We don't post all the feeds in the open forum. Some of us feel that exposing un-encrypted feeds could lead to scrambling. Others don't feel the same way but I am with the "stay on the downlow crowd".

Trust me when I say.....If you get a HD FTA box and a large dish, you won't be disappointed.
You will have to become familiar with scanning and organizing your channel list for your specific receiver. You will have to get used to maintaining your dish and being able to diagnose problems if they arise. There are not many techs who know anything about C-band systems or setting up a dish that tracks the sky with a motor and polar mount.

Your small fixed dish installers will probably know nothing if you ask them.
All of us on this forum will help answer any questions along the way you may have.
Good luck and enjoy the hobby.
Foxbat
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Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Ronnie-
Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
navychop
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
navychop
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
KAB
KAB
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
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Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
ncted
ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade
No. Makes me wonder if that is Apple or the carrier. I am on pre-paid, so I never get "an upgrade." I still have my old iPhone 11 Pro as a second line, and it runs iOS 27 just fine. My iPhone Air, which is still a current model, doesn't really seem that much faster in regular use. It is better in other ways, and worse in some ways than the 11 Pro (size), but performance really isn't a big differentiator, especially since I replaced the battery in the 11 Pro. If I had gotten enough storage when I originally bought the 11 Pro, it could still be my primary device with no issues.
ncted
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.
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apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
dishstaller
Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Juan
Not alot of dish customers any more
Foxbat
I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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I really dislike change for the sake of change
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
dishstaller
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Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
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If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!




Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
TRG
TRG
"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
dishstaller
.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.