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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I couldn't wait to get home and hook up my new 722k receiver from Dish Network,

When I got home I ripped out the old 622 from my bedroom and put in the new 722k receiver in its place.

When I replaced it I switched out the old bulkey Dish Pro Plus Separator with the new tiny one that came with the 722k.

The 722k was hooked to my 1080p 50 inch Samsung LCD television via HDMI and the component HD output was hooked up to my Slingbox Pro HD. All video captures below were captured from the Slingplayer software and a screen capture program.

The first picture shown by my new 722K was the Point Dish Screen. I selected Check Switch and it found the 3 satellite locations of the Dish setup I had it hooked to. (I have both a Legacy system with 61.5, 110 and 119. (I also have an Eastern Arc Dish setup which is used for receivers down the stairs.)

After it was done it asked me if everything was locked down I said yes and the receiver took its inital software download.

After that the receiver rebooted with the new Dish logo screen that I saw when I crashed the 922 at CES earlier in the year. That logo flipped to HD then back to SD.

A screen then came up telling me to hook it up to a phoneline or broadband and to run a test. I no longer have a phone line but do have broadband so ran the test and all was good.

Next screen I saw was an alert that it had found my external hard drive and asked me if I wanted to manage it. I said no to it. I was then watching channel 101.

I had no guide data so I for the first time used the reset button on the front of the receiver.

When the receiver came back on it didn't tune to channel 101 again instead it put up a screen saying that my receiver was not authorized and to call Dish to get it activated.

I called in and selected the option for tech support. A freindly rep came online and told him I wanted to activate a new receiver. He asked me if I owned it I said yes, he asked for the receiver and smart card numbers and then again asked me if I owned the unit again I told him yes. He then told me that because I now have 5 receivers on my account that I was subject to a call from the audit department. and could have my service suspended if I failed the audit. (For the record I am not sure what I am going to do with the old 622, I want to put it down the stairs where I have a 722 in dual mode feeding a second TV which is HD in SD, so I may put it there, or since its leased I might send it back to Dish.) If I send it back I will be back down to 4 receivers again.

Anyways.. about 5 minutes went by and then Dish channel 101 came on. I clicked on the guide and all my channels were now activated.

Out of the box the 722k holds 55 hours HD or 350 hours SD.

I then went and tested the over the air functionality of the 722k with the MT2 cartridge installed. I was disapointed that the tuning was worse then the 622 it replaced. A number of channels I could receive on my 622 I could not pull in on my new 722k. I couldnt get WCTX or WSAH. Also like my 622 I can not tune to WTNH channel 8's subcarriers. When tuning to them I get a black screen, however on other ATSC tuners in the house those channel have weather information on them. I dont know why the Dish boxes can't tune in those channels but they cant. :(

I also noticed that the signal level on the OTA channels was lower on the 722k. WGGB out of Springfield Mass normally comes in at 100% for me, tonight it was coming in at 83%.

I then went through the menus and set everything up the way I like things, then I remembered the new two way remotes have a setup wizard on them so I wanted to see what it did. I pressed and held the 0 button on the remote and on the TV the system wizard popped up. I then went to the next screen and got an error message screen. The 722K then froze up. I had to reboot it again.

I was unable to set any timers tonight even though the guide populated, when I tried setting timers for things in the guide I was given an error message that the guide data was incomplete.

I tried setting up the new receiver to be controlled from the Sling Guide, so I went online gave the sling site my receiver id number and was asked for a verification number from my receiver. I put that in and it accepted it yet could never connect to the receiver from the Sling site. Luckilly this appears to be an issue with the sling site as no one could connect as has been reported here tonight on SatelliteGuys.

So now I am all setup and I am not going to judge this box yet. I am going to let it sit for the night and download all the stuff it does at night and give it another shot tomorrow night..

But so far this thing acts just like a 622/722. I havent used some of the new features such as the group recording function, but will try that tomorrow plus will try recording 4 things at once. :)

Pictures are coming up below. :D
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langlin
I'll see if transfering and/or just playing something from the EHD has the same effect next time I get a chance. Thanks langlin.[/QUOTE said:
Thanks for checking and confirming this bug. I have never had it freeze anything when viewing, just erasing.

Our viewing process is to record all new episodes of favorite shows and transfer them to the EHD (a 500 Gb WD) and all nighttime viewing is off the EHD while the 722k continues to record new shows. This works well for us because anytime we have the time to sit down and watch, we have a new, unwatched episode of a favorite show to watch. BUT here's what I discovered:

1. When you erase a recording from the EHD it freezes one or more of the digital streams in the 722k receiver.

2. By using the PIP you can view two of the streams and after the erasure on the EHD one or both will freeze. (doesn't matter if it is a satellite tuner or an OTA tuner)

3. If you are recording one of those streams the recording will also be of the frozen screen and no sound from the time you erased until the end of the recording time.

4. Any change will then unfreeze the stream, i.e channel change, power off and on, etc. It is not necessary to reboot so the work around is to NOT erase a show on the EHD while the 722k is recording.

I was able to reliably reproduce this on two 722k's and Dish engineers have taken the report. I no longer have a 622 or a 722 so I don't know if this only applies to a 722k with L6.51 or also applies to a 722 with L6.18, maybe someone else can verify that. I no longer lose shows but the bug is still there.
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Just so you know, with the OTA module, you will have 2 OTA tuners now. That way you can record 4 channels at once (2 sat, 2 ota).

To the best of my knowledge, that $40 fee is one time, so you won't have to pay it again. I didn't.
shanewalker
Just so you know, with the OTA module, you will have 2 OTA tuners now. That way you can record 4 channels at once (2 sat, 2 ota).

To the best of my knowledge, that $40 fee is one time, so you won't have to pay it again. I didn't.

Yep, the two-tuners is quite nice. I like getting added value if I'm going to have to pony up for a feature that was effectively taken out of the new version to save cost--takes some of the sting out of paying coin for a jack you expected to be there. The OTA module is ordered and on its way...

And the USB external storage fee I was fearing I'd have to pay--voila, it's still active in my account from before, so I won't have to pay that. YES! Only caveat is the new receiver unit will likely need to wipe out/reformat my old drive, so I'll lose some old recordings. Oh well...
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new here, go easy on me...

Yep, the two-tuners is quite nice. I like getting added value if I'm going to have to pony up for a feature that was effectively taken out of the new version to save cost--takes some of the sting out of paying coin for a jack you expected to be there. The OTA module is ordered and on its way...

And the USB external storage fee I was fearing I'd have to pay--voila, it's still active in my account from before, so I won't have to pay that. YES! Only caveat is the new receiver unit will likely need to wipe out/reformat my old drive, so I'll lose some old recordings. Oh well...

Hi, so I just went and read about 75% of this thread and have a newbie question..I live in Queens NYC and am told I have no line of sight to 61.5 (for local HD). I went ahead and got the MT2 for my 722K-HD. I plugged a RCA ANT120B into the OTA connector of the MT2 and can only pickup 7.1, 7.2 and 7.3. If I plug the same ANT120B into my TV, it picks up alot more channels.

My question is, what am I doing wrong and can anyone in the area give me a breakdown of how they have their MT2 setup? I am desperate to get my local HD channels back...but I refuse to go back to Time Warner Cable..

Thanks in advance!

-Jack
Bobby
Hi, so I just went and read about 75% of this thread and have a newbie question..I live in Queens NYC and am told I have no line of sight to 61.5 (for local HD). I went ahead and got the MT2 for my 722K-HD. I plugged a RCA ANT120B into the OTA connector of the MT2 and can only pickup 7.1, 7.2 and 7.3. If I plug the same ANT120B into my TV, it picks up alot more channels.

My question is, what am I doing wrong and can anyone in the area give me a breakdown of how they have their MT2 setup? I am desperate to get my local HD channels back...but I refuse to go back to Time Warner Cable..

Thanks in advance!

-Jack

Change your Analog Type, Menu, 6, 8, OffAir...
KAB
KAB
Menue...6...8...Analogue Type...Off Air. Obviously set to cable currently. Rescan.
Bobby
That's what I said! :) Except, of course, the rescan which is very important. :up
langlin
Finally fixed freezing bug with L6.62

Thanks for checking and confirming this bug. I have never had it freeze anything when viewing, just erasing.

Our viewing process is to record all new episodes of favorite shows and transfer them to the EHD (a 500 Gb WD) and all nighttime viewing is off the EHD while the 722k continues to record new shows. This works well for us because anytime we have the time to sit down and watch, we have a new, unwatched episode of a favorite show to watch. BUT here's what I discovered:

1. When you erase a recording from the EHD it freezes one or more of the digital streams in the 722k receiver.

2. By using the PIP you can view two of the streams and after the erasure on the EHD one or both will freeze. (doesn't matter if it is a satellite tuner or an OTA tuner)

3. If you are recording one of those streams the recording will also be of the frozen screen and no sound from the time you erased until the end of the recording time.

4. Any change will then unfreeze the stream, i.e channel change, power off and on, etc. It is not necessary to reboot so the work around is to NOT erase a show on the EHD while the 722k is recording.

I was able to reliably reproduce this on two 722k's and Dish engineers have taken the report. I no longer have a 622 or a 722 so I don't know if this only applies to a 722k with L6.51 or also applies to a 722 with L6.18, maybe someone else can verify that. I no longer lose shows but the bug is still there.

Amazing, just over one year I've had this problem and finally L6.62 seems to have fixed the freezing. I've tested over 10 erasures on the EHD and not one freeze.
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
meStevo
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!




Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
TRG
TRG
"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
dishstaller
.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Juan
Not alot of dish customers any more
Foxbat
I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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meStevo
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
meStevo
Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


View: https://x.com/RapSheet/status/2111074303185989663?s=20
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dishstaller
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· posted in TV Shows
I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.

I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIhZm0qkz0o
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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White Wedding - Billy Idol
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White Christmas - Elvis Presley
dishstaller
Dirty White Boy - Foreigner
Bobby
Tickle Me (Dirty, Dirty Feeling) - Elvis Presley
dishstaller
Dirty Diana - Michael Jackson
osu1991
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
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Howard Simmons

Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
Anony55
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Nebugeater
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Former member 208119
Class action.
a hopper 3 with 6 firesticks and or if you wanna spend even more money apple tv's
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Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.
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Nebugeater
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.


Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Anony55
Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.
dishstaller
Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
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Former member 209992
Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Scott Greczkowski
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
Foxbat
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
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zipping right along here
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WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
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Foxbat
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
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I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
OMG to freaking funny :biggrin
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comfortably_numb
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

Not likely since that place closed down.
TheRatPatrol
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Howard Simmons
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.