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I've seen other (old) threads on this subject and figured I'd bring it up again, since I signed into my account today and noticed this line item on my account summary. I knew it was part of my account but I think the way it shows up on my account changed with the new account manager interface so it's on my mind again.
Specifically, I am referring to the "DISH'n It Up 1st HD AO" line item in the account summary. While it is not noted on my bill I think it translates to a fee on my bill called "leased receiver fee". I originally subscribed as a DHA customer years ago and have done one DIU promotion, to upgrade from an 811 to a 622 receiver. I was a little annoyed at both the monthly and one time fee to upgrade, but was compelled enough to do so. What I find annoying is that this $7 "lease" fee will be on my bill for perpetuity, even though I am no longer in the contract that I was tied to when I upgraded. It's an absolute junk fee, IMO - Dish has more than recouped their costs from me.
Furthermore, I find it frustrating because new customers can get the 622 WITHOUT this fee (and better new customer terms, to boot). In addition, I believe other DIU customers have been able to get the fee removed from their bill with a little bit of effort. I've tried once with no success.
Does anyone else have this line item on their bill but not have that $7 leased receiver fee? For the record, I only have that one receiver (622).
Specifically, I am referring to the "DISH'n It Up 1st HD AO" line item in the account summary. While it is not noted on my bill I think it translates to a fee on my bill called "leased receiver fee". I originally subscribed as a DHA customer years ago and have done one DIU promotion, to upgrade from an 811 to a 622 receiver. I was a little annoyed at both the monthly and one time fee to upgrade, but was compelled enough to do so. What I find annoying is that this $7 "lease" fee will be on my bill for perpetuity, even though I am no longer in the contract that I was tied to when I upgraded. It's an absolute junk fee, IMO - Dish has more than recouped their costs from me.
Furthermore, I find it frustrating because new customers can get the 622 WITHOUT this fee (and better new customer terms, to boot). In addition, I believe other DIU customers have been able to get the fee removed from their bill with a little bit of effort. I've tried once with no success.
Does anyone else have this line item on their bill but not have that $7 leased receiver fee? For the record, I only have that one receiver (622).
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One in every crowd - thanks for not disappointing.
This isn't about cheating a company out of their money - I've been a more than loyal sub for years (including this fee) and don't intend to leave. However, it does bother me enough to look into it, rather than ignoring it each month, which I've done for some time. It just strikes me as inconsistent and unjustifiable. It's exactly the type of "feeding the pig" that Dish used to rail against, but I guess they haven't been that company for awhile now.
I realize the cost of doing business and adopting new tech, but Dish has more than paid for their investment for my equipment through my upgrade charge and ongoing lease fee. What irks me is that even existing subs are no longer subject to this fee, under the current DIU terms. Dish has revised it and no longer carries this fee for the first receiver.
Thanks brad880, very helpful reply - I think DVR advantage would alter my programming, which I do not want to affect, as I'm under a grandfathered package.
One in every crowd - thanks for not disappointing.
This isn't about cheating a company out of their money - I've been a more than loyal sub for years (including this fee) and don't intend to leave. However, it does bother me enough to look into it, rather than ignoring it each month, which I've done for some time. It just strikes me as inconsistent and unjustifiable. It's exactly the type of "feeding the pig" that Dish used to rail against, but I guess they haven't been that company for awhile now.
I realize the cost of doing business and adopting new tech, but Dish has more than paid for their investment for my equipment through my upgrade charge and ongoing lease fee. What irks me is that even existing subs are no longer subject to this fee, under the current DIU terms. Dish has revised it and no longer carries this fee for the first receiver.
Thanks brad880, very helpful reply - I think DVR advantage would alter my programming, which I do not want to affect, as I'm under a grandfathered package.
You may not have liked the answer but your other replies have told you virtually the same thing. Your dishing it up grade that you agreed to included the rental fee. You might be able to get a credit on your account but it will come back. Until you close your account and wait 6 mo. to come back you will still be under that agreement. You can open a new account at that address in another qualifying name and start a new contract. It is your decision.One in every crowd - thanks for not disappointing.
This isn't about cheating a company out of their money - I've been a more than loyal sub for years (including this fee) and don't intend to leave. However, it does bother me enough to look into it, rather than ignoring it each month, which I've done for some time. It just strikes me as inconsistent and unjustifiable. It's exactly the type of "feeding the pig" that Dish used to rail against, but I guess they haven't been that company for awhile now.
I realize the cost of doing business and adopting new tech, but Dish has more than paid for their investment for my equipment through my upgrade charge and ongoing lease fee. What irks me is that even existing subs are no longer subject to this fee, under the current DIU terms. Dish has revised it and no longer carries this fee for the first receiver.
Thanks brad880, very helpful reply - I think DVR advantage would alter my programming, which I do not want to affect, as I'm under a grandfathered package.
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I too had the $7 lease fee for one 622 rec (only rec on the acct). I got rid of it for a year (this was earlier this year) by contacting the ceo at echostar email address. (Cust service was unable to do anything for me, so I tried the executive office). What they did was send me another 622, then I sent the existing 622 back (they paid for the return and shipment). I incurred no charges and did not have to agree to any contract (I'm currently not under contract). Of course I did have to send a perfectly good 622 back
in order to get rid of the lease fee. To me it was worth it to save the $84 plus tax a year. The executive office did say in the email I that I could do a diu upgrade, (I'm guessing from a 622 to a 722) and that would completely eliminate the lease fee. I didn't wanna do that at this time due to the upgrade fee (I'm thinking it was $75) and I would be back under a 24 month contract. If money wasn't so tight that would have been a good deal, getting the extra recording space, but I'll see how things look when the year is up.
I'm not defending Dish but I do understand that when I got the 622 (around July 2006) that there would be a lease fee, even though it was the only rec on the acct.
Heck, I also paid the $199 upgrade fee, although I did get some programming credits to help offset that. It's also very true that the new subs get the sweetest deals and the existing customers don't
I do think that cs should tell the subs something like, "I can't do anything because of the terms you agreed at the time included a lease fee on the only rec, however here are the options you have", then explain the diu possibility; or contact the executive office. I'm thinking a lot of subs would just say, "screw this, I'll send your 622 back and sign up with ____________". Poor customer service costs them a few subs, I think.
I too had the $7 lease fee for one 622 rec (only rec on the acct). I got rid of it for a year (this was earlier this year) by contacting the ceo at echostar email address. (Cust service was unable to do anything for me, so I tried the executive office). What they did was send me another 622, then I sent the existing 622 back (they paid for the return and shipment). I incurred no charges and did not have to agree to any contract (I'm currently not under contract). Of course I did have to send a perfectly good 622 back
in order to get rid of the lease fee. To me it was worth it to save the $84 plus tax a year. The executive office did say in the email I that I could do a diu upgrade, (I'm guessing from a 622 to a 722) and that would completely eliminate the lease fee. I didn't wanna do that at this time due to the upgrade fee (I'm thinking it was $75) and I would be back under a 24 month contract. If money wasn't so tight that would have been a good deal, getting the extra recording space, but I'll see how things look when the year is up. I'm not defending Dish but I do understand that when I got the 622 (around July 2006) that there would be a lease fee, even though it was the only rec on the acct.
Heck, I also paid the $199 upgrade fee, although I did get some programming credits to help offset that. It's also very true that the new subs get the sweetest deals and the existing customers don't
I do think that cs should tell the subs something like, "I can't do anything because of the terms you agreed at the time included a lease fee on the only rec, however here are the options you have", then explain the diu possibility; or contact the executive office. I'm thinking a lot of subs would just say, "screw this, I'll send your 622 back and sign up with ____________". Poor customer service costs them a few subs, I think.
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Wait a min.
I have 3 leased receivers that 1 purchased.
Am I supposed to pay that $7 lease fee (DHA Leased Receiver)?
Calling Dish and talking to them about this did no good.
I have 3 leased receivers that 1 purchased.
Am I supposed to pay that $7 lease fee (DHA Leased Receiver)?
Calling Dish and talking to them about this did no good.
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango
The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
I forgot you can pay that with Ford Pass points, I won't be due again till Feb, but I'll have to remember to try it ... Not sure what needs to be done, but I do have a substantial amount of points currently.Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango
The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
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Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.
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I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
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USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy
Ethanol Free Stations
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