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4:2:2 Information / Assistance Request

Hello Fellow Satellite Guys. We are turning to the real experts for assistance with a project.... YOU!

Are there any 24/7 or regularly scheduled 4:2:2 feeds? If so, and not published, please do not post to the forum and PM the parameters / schedules.

We are in final testing phase for a next generation receiver and need to perform additional 4:2:2 testing with a variety of broadcasts. Is there a specific channel or a mux that is problematic that we should be aware of?

Thank you in advance for any assistance!
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goaliebob99
goaliebob99
You should check out the CBSHD mux wich has 4:2:2 HD that the AZ Boxes apparently cant get.
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goaliebob99 said:
You should check out the CBSHD mux wich has 4:2:2 HD that the AZ Boxes apparently cant get.
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Ain't that because of the high symbol rate? That's what I heard about the AZbox.
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brentb636
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tvropro said:
Ain't that because of the high symbol rate? That's what I heard about the AZbox.
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Nope, you need to read the thread at Rick's to see all the current evidence . [edit] Post 151 is one of the summary posts.[/edit]
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toucan-man
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brentb636 said:
Nope, you need to read the thread at Rick's to see all the current evidence . [edit] Post 151 is one of the summary posts.[/edit]
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Can you summarize the summary post? Enquiring minds want to know...
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brentb636
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toucan-man said:
Can you summarize the summary post? Enquiring minds want to know...
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"7/09 at 07:13 PM
Reply with quote #151
The AZ Box and 4:2:2 HD has been discussed quite a bit in this thread, but the thread is getting quite long now and it is hard to find all of the details.

To date, the AZ box will do some forms of 4:2:2 QPSK HD and some forms of 4:2:2 S2 8PSK and other forms, it will not do.

When CBS does their backhauls and use the Harris Encoder and do 4:2:2 QPSK HD, the AZ Box will NOT do video on these feeds. The AZ Box will also NOT do Video on the CBS 4:2:2 S2 8PSK Network feeds. I suspect that they are also using Harris Encoders in New York.

There have been 2 different TNT NBA basketball playoff games, where they used 4:2:2 S2 8PSK HD and the AZ Box DID do the Video, but all of the other 4:2:2 S2 8PSK HD feeds have yeilded NO Video. My speculation was that on the 2 feeds that the AZ Box did give video on, were using a Tandberg Encoder and possibly the other feeds may be Harris Encoders. This is only a guess.

The AZ Box gives Video on the Speed Channel 4:2:2 QPSK HD feeds fine.

Only time will tell if future software updates will allow the receiver to do these different 4:2:2 S and S2 feeds."

My opinion, since I don't have a real C-band dish, is that the AZbox tunes everything that I can throw at it. No other receiver matches it's "skill set", but it's a long way from perfect. I could wish that my Merc II had the capabilities of the AZbox, with the simple Merc II interface.
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brentb636 said:
When CBS does their backhauls and use the Harris Encoder and do 4:2:2 QPSK HD, the AZ Box will NOT do video on these feeds. The AZ Box will also NOT do Video on the CBS 4:2:2 S2 8PSK Network feeds. I suspect that they are also using Harris Encoders in New York.
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That has been fixed. If I can lock a feed, the azbox WILL play it. I watched the network CBS's the other night. The issue with those is HIGH FEC (9/10), you MUST have a bigger dish, tuned properly, to score those. :up
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cracklincrotch
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Playing CBS network here with the Elite with a 7.5' mesh, 70Q.
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B.J.
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goaliebob99 said:
You should check out the CBSHD mux wich has 4:2:2 HD that the AZ Boxes apparently cant get.
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The CBS 4.2.2 worked fine on MY Azbox, unless they have more than one variety.

That was my main reason for buying the Azbox, and it was the first transponder I tried to tune, and it worked. There are occasionaly audio issues with the Dolby-E audio, but I don't remember any issues with the 4.2.2 .
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Linus Tech Tips
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I Doubled My GPU’s Memory…

Time for another AWESOME video from Linus Tech Tips!


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Linus on Facebook
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osu1991
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

USA Healthcare Costs are Ridiculous

:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.
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vazhog
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that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -
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meStevo
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vazhog said:
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -
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Even sarcastically it's wrong. Undocumented immigrants already weren't eligible for federal Medicaid, so there's no one to "get off the rolls." The immigrant-related pieces are a small part of the ~$1 trillion. They cut the federal match for emergency care from 90% to the state's regular rate and end eligibility for some lawful immigrants like refugees. Most of the "savings" come from work requirements, more frequent eligibility checks, and provider tax limits, which hit citizens.

Either way, the cost doesn't disappear. It shifts to states, hospitals, and everyone else's premiums and will only serve to make issues like those raised in this thread worse.
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meStevo said:
Undocumented immigrants already weren't eligible for federal Medicaid, so there's no one to "get off the rolls."
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That's only part correct. Actually I had to look it up to make sure. There is NO Federal money going to Medicaid for illegals but there ARE some states that use State money to pay for Medicaid for illegals. Here's the list

    • California: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Colorado: Covers specific adult demographics (with upcoming budget caps in 2027). [1]
    • Illinois: Covers specific adult age brackets. [1]
    • New York: Covers specific adult demographics. [1]
    • Oregon: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Washington: Covers specific adult demographics. [1, 2]
    • Washington, D.C.: Provides adult coverage through the D.C. Health Care Alliance. [1, 2]
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dishstaller said:
That's only part correct. Actually I had to look it up to make sure. There is NO Federal money going to Medicaid for illegals but there ARE some states that use State money to pay for Medicaid for illegals. Here's the list

    • California: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Colorado: Covers specific adult demographics (with upcoming budget caps in 2027). [1]
    • Illinois: Covers specific adult age brackets. [1]
    • New York: Covers specific adult demographics. [1]
    • Oregon: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Washington: Covers specific adult demographics. [1, 2]
    • Washington, D.C.: Provides adult coverage through the D.C. Health Care Alliance. [1, 2]
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Fair point, but it's consistent with what I said: no federal Medicaid money goes to undocumented immigrants. Those programs are state-funded, so the federal ~$1T cut can't touch them. Whatever states decide to do with their own programs is a separate budget decision.
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The feds give money to the states for them to use - Cutting the fed funding only means the taxpayer savings will passed onto the states that need to make up the Fed dollars cut -See the list above for those states affected
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harshness
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vazhog said:
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -
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That's not who it is for. The cut is for those who won't work (though you typically had to prove that you couldn't work to get it in the first place).
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Foxbat
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Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit? This is why there is a Pit, and why I rarely use the Chit Chat Club. But someone said, "The Pub is Elitist since you have to pay dues to enter, so please post in the Chit Chat forum so more guests can read and participate."
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harshness
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Foxbat said:
Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit?
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Because health care shouldn't be a political issue?
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Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Lakeside Park - Rush
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Another PARK Another Sunday-The Doobie Brothers
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Another One Bites The Dust - Queen
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Oh Susanna, Dust off the Old Pianna - Ozzie Nelson & His Orchestra
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Garden Party - Ricky Nelson
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dishstaller
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Claude's site is still up and running. New link required

I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

DishRetailer

America's Oldest Satellite Forum!
satelliteretailer.com satelliteretailer.com

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
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dishstaller
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If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.
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Scott Greczkowski
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dishstaller said:
I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

DishRetailer

America's Oldest Satellite Forum!
satelliteretailer.com satelliteretailer.com

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
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Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!
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Went and looked, not too bad...

Just let people know the address is satelliteretailer.com as DishRetailer.COM is not working. :)
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dishstaller said:
If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.
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Your old link triggered my Bitdefender today.
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Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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Almighty1
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www.lightreading.com

EchoStar fixes some of its mess, but there's much more to mop up

EchoStar's satellite TV and Sling TV services have exited Chapter 11, but clouds still hover above Dish Wireless, which faces a multitude of lawsuits.
www.lightreading.com
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News about the tower's dispute-

www.lightreading.com

Towercos now own Dish's 5G radios – and SpaceX might be a buyer

Tower companies now own Dish's deserted 5G gear, says American Tower CEO Steven Vondran. This could feed into SpaceX's mobile ambitions, analysts say.
www.lightreading.com
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Bruce said:
News about the tower's dispute-

www.lightreading.com

Towercos now own Dish's 5G radios – and SpaceX might be a buyer

Tower companies now own Dish's deserted 5G gear, says American Tower CEO Steven Vondran. This could feed into SpaceX's mobile ambitions, analysts say.
www.lightreading.com
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So does this mean the churches and businesses that Dish owes back payments to are going to get paid now?
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They note that the Dish Wireless radios at issue support the 2GHz and 800MHz spectrum SpaceX is acquiring from EchoStar and Grain.

"Buying compatible equipment already installed on towers could give SpaceX a head start on its wireless terrestrial network build and throw a big bucket of cold water on Verizon's four-to-six-year timeline and $300-$500 billion estimate for SpaceX's buildout," said the analysts."
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dfergie
dfergie
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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harshness
harshness
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
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harshness
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harshness said:
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
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It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.
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harshness said:
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.
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Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.
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Bobby
Bobby
Regular$5.839​
Premium$6.299​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
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harshness
harshness
Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price?
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Winter blend is reportedly 10-30 cents cheaper, but I would point out that prices have dropped as much as 62 cents at RP.
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Regular$5.699​
Premium$6.199​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
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Was just out running errands and saw $3.69 at most places
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$4.04 most places, Diesel $5.85...
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Van
Van
Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?

Whats for breakfast?

Who says dinner or lunch has to be the only good meals of the day?

Honey butter grits with scrambled eggs and grilled boneless pork ribs on flakey biscuits washed down with cranberry juice.
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Breakfast Quesadillas. Grilled flour tortilla filled with scrambled eggs, hash browns, chopped green chile, cheddar & Jack cheese and bacon. Coffee.

q.webp
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Taco omelette. 3 eggs, taco meat from yesterday, diced green chilis, cheddar cheese, chopped red onion, avocado, black olives, chopped tomato, La Victoria Salsa Brava.

This one was really, really good!
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Thought I was getting a Chorizo and egg burrito (marker had rubbed off)but was a roast beef/potato I made up before hunting this morning.
Btw every morning at camp I cooked my homemade Chorizo and scrambled eggs plus sausage side while my brother brought bacon. (they liked both the beef and pork versions)
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dfergie said:
Thought I was getting a Chorizo and egg burrito (marker had rubbed off)but was a roast beef/potato I made up before hunting this morning.
Btw every morning at camp I cooked my homemade Chorizo and scrambled eggs plus sausage side while my brother brought bacon. (they liked both the beef and pork versions)
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I had a chorizo and egg burrito for you. With lots of green chile and cheese of course.
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Mixed one egg, one tablespoon cottage cheese with a small fine grated potato, salt and pepper, made 3 waffles in the small waffle iron... Bacon, sausage and milk. (next time will add grated cheese to mix)
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Club TWiT: AI User Group #21 - Superpowers With Jesse Vincent

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDUacUpCR04


Direct YouTube Link - Club TWiT: AI User Group #21 - Superpowers With Jesse Vincent
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed
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meStevo
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section

NFL 2026-2027 Season

Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Jimmy Johnson is a football guy. Jerry Jones is a marketer (hustler).

When I see a football player get a 15 yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct (like taunting) in a close game, I often wonder what he was thinking. Was he thinking, I'm doing everything I can to make this a better team and help win a championship? Or, was he saying to himself, I want everyone to notice how great I am?

Johnson inspires one, Jones the other.
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Got to unfurl and hold the flag at Allegiant for the anthem today - amazing experience.
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Balls
Bears. Gave the Pats a good beatdown.
Bucs. Got Baker back and absolutely demolished the previously surprising Panthers.
Falcons. Took care of the 49ers and did so convincingly.
Vikings. I hate them. I do. I've never seen such a bad/good team. Know what I mean? I know their D is epic. But their O is insulting. How they remain undefeated is a mystery.
Rams. Finally looked the part. Mind you against the hapless Cards.
Cowboys. Fireworks performance from their O.
Dolphins. Finally logged in a W. There won't be many. Enjoy it, Miami fans.
Browns. Still atop the AFC North.
Giants. Epic OT win with Buffalo's very own Motor Singletary finishing it off.
Seattle. Dominated KC from start to finish.

Goats
Jets. Couldn't beat the winless Dolphins. Aaron Glenn is a dead man walking.
Eagles. Injured beyond repair
Ravens and Lamar. Has he ever played a full season? Honestly, dude is fragile. Of course he's back for the Bills game.
49ers. No longer undefeated.
Colts. A sh*t show. When are they gonna realize that Daniel Jones is ass?
Steelers vs Saints game. Ass, just ass all around. Those poor people in Paris have had enough lately, and on top of that, endure that game.
Chiefs. They looked terrible. Like really bad.
Pack vs. Detroit game refs. Some of the worst refereeing I've seen in a long time. And the sample is pretty large.
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Reticulum Off-Grid Comms with @TheTechPrepper

Time for another AWESOME video from Ham Radio 2.0!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY2iPzOyH6Q


Direct YouTube Link - Reticulum Off-Grid Comms with @TheTechPrepper
Ham Radio 2.0 Website
Ham Radio 2.0 on Facebook
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