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ryotgz

Last reply Jul 1, 2010 · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

D* DVR reliability vs E*

I have E* right now and have had our 722 replaced and the 612 replaced twice. I know it is best to keep them out in the open and not enclosed in an entertainment center. I also slightly elevated them to keep them cooler.

How does D* compare with the rate of E* receivers going bad? Do they have better ventilation? If I get an HR24 can I actually put IN-SIDE the entertainment center instead of on-top without fear of it going bad?

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dishrich

Jun 27, 2010

Well you know you're asking a loaded question, of course...but while E*'s latest DVR's may have better functionality, overall D* DVR's seem to be more reliable.

But while having proper ventilation is important on any DVR regardless if it's E* or D*, you really should also considering buying a cheap UPS for your all your DVR's. It really does prolong the lifespan of them (remember they ARE really computers) & also, when you have those annoying short power glitches, you don't have to sit there & wait 5 minutes for them to reboot, not to mention missing any of your show(s) that were recording at that time. For about $25-$35, it's actually cheap insurance...

But to answer your main question, they actually run pretty cool - as long as your center has openings somewhere (think large cutouts in the back, or NO back preferably) you should be fine.

ryotgz

Jun 29, 2010

From what I have read on the D* forum and my assumption, I can use MRV from one HR24 to another HR24 correct? Don't want to assume and be wrong.

armchair

Jun 29, 2010

ryotgz said:
From what I have read on the D* forum and my assumption, I can use MRV from one HR24 to another HR24 correct? Don't want to assume and be wrong.

Absolutely! You will see a combined playlist or you can choose not to share a DVRs playlist or you can choose to display local DVRs playlist only.

What will be missing is the ability to schedule recordings in Series Manage or view the To Do List of a remote DVR. Multiple DVRs are nice; that will increase the number of shows you can record at one time and having MRV will enable you to spread your recordings around multiple DVRs but you will need to physically be in front of that DVR to program or manage it unless you're using the H series. I'm not fully aware of the H series limitations as I don't have one! I elected to go with three DVRs.

There is also a limit of one stream per Server to consider. You could not remotely view more than one show from a single DVR (Server) to another H series, DVR or PC (or Clients). Increasing DVRs increases the number of possible streams but again the same limitation exits; one stream per Server.

Collaborative scheduling and management and tuner control is an option that's been asked for a lot; hasn't happened yet but I'm sure they've considered it themselves. Another thing I think becomes a necessity when having multiple DVRs in a DECA/MRV network is administrator controls and passwords to further limit access of a child in the house. That would certainly have to be considered if collaborating the scheduling and management of multiple DVRs.

It was reported that DVRs that were set not to display playlists from other DVRs reverted to showing the Unified Playlist (UPL) when the DVR was rebooted. This resulted in some lost recordings when children started deleting shows that were parentally locked to them. Having little control over that DVRs ability to delete from the UPL lead to the removal of the DECA adapter. The options we're limited to is to share playlist with all remote DVRs or not share playlist with all remote DVRs. The same applies to allow deletion by all remote DVRs or not to allow deletion to remote DVRs. (Actually, I think that includes the H Series).

Hemi 6.1

Jun 29, 2010

dishrich said:
Well you know you're asking a loaded question, of course...but while E*'s latest DVR's may have better functionality, overall D* DVR's seem to be more reliable.

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Agree, Seems like max life for a VIP is about 2-3 years before Hard drives crap out

HR's Seem to have software buggs, But rare for a major failure.

MikeFr

Jun 29, 2010

armchair said:
There is also a limit of one stream per Server to consider. You could not remotely view more than one show from a single DVR (Server) to another H series, DVR or PC (or Clients). Increasing DVRs increases the number of possible streams but again the same limitation exits; one stream per Server.

Just clarifying since I'm set up for an install in 2 weeks w/ 1HD DVR and 1 HD. Obviously if I'm recording on both tuners at the same time on the DVR, I can only watch a previously recorded show in room 1.

Can the 2nd room w/ the HD watch a previously recorded show also or since there are 2 recordings active already is that stream considered busy?

armchair

Jun 30, 2010

MikeFr said:
Just clarifying since I'm set up for an install in 2 weeks w/ 1HD DVR and 1 HD. Obviously if I'm recording on both tuners at the same time on the DVR, I can only watch a previously recorded show in room 1.

Can the 2nd room w/ the HD watch a previously recorded show also or since there are 2 recordings active already is that stream considered busy?

Yes; your HD can still be a Client; in that case, the stream would not be considered busy. It's also still possible to start a VOD download and start viewing it as well and still be capable of a single MRV stream to the HD. IOW, you could be recording two shows on the DVR, start a VOD d/l and start watching shortly afterwards. If the the VOD was being viewed on the DVR, the DVR could also still Serve any single MRV stream to a compatible device including a PC. It could be anything on the DVR, even the recordings in-progress or the VOD d/l and it doesn't matter if the DVR that's d/l is viewing it or not, you can view it in another room as long as single stream from Server is adhered to. I'm using the PC to test the stream from.

In my case, the other two DVRs in the home could still stream simultaneously to/from each while all this was going on but my third DVR is no longer connected to the DECA network to protect the shows I want to share with my wife's DVR. But you can see that multiple DVRs increase the likelihood of recording multiple shows while still being able to watch recorded programming or VOD d/l in-progress.

It's a good test for your DECA connection to demonstrate what it can do. All of those could be HD as well but the VOD d/l speed would depend on the speed of your INTERNET connection.

I'm doing it right now to test and I found an old 1080P Charles Bronson flick "10 to Midnight" to d/l for free. My HR22-100 is handling that load, ATM. The HR24-500 is recording while this is going on; it's in the b/r with the wife and she's asleep. The best thing about the HR24 is that it's very quiet. I cannot hear it at all unless it's rebooting. Directv does not force a daily reboot like Dish did when I was with them as a subscriber.

rprice54

Jul 1, 2010

for whatever it's worth I'm on my 4th 622 from E* in the past 9 months, and it's out in the open in my basement... First two had "power failures" and would just enter a continual reboot cycle, the last one had a HD failure... my D* install is tomorrow... here's to hoping the new equip lasts a bit longer.

the HD fan on the 622 is loud, I can hear it across the room compared to my projector which is sitting right above my head and I can't hear a thing from it (over the 622 at least).

Jimbo

Jul 1, 2010

rprice54 said:
for whatever it's worth I'm on my 4th 622 from E* in the past 9 months, and it's out in the open in my basement... First two had "power failures" and would just enter a continual reboot cycle, the last one had a HD failure... my D* install is tomorrow... here's to hoping the new equip lasts a bit longer.

the HD fan on the 622 is loud, I can hear it across the room compared to my projector which is sitting right above my head and I can't hear a thing from it (over the 622 at least).

Welcome to D* and if you get the HR24's you'll find that they are very quiet.
I have yet to have a Hard Drive go bad on any of my DVR's in the last 6 years

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TVHabit

Last reply Today at 1:03 AM · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion

Hybrid Dish setup

Picked up a sweet directv dish, mount, twin lnbs and a short cable.
Has anyone converted one to FTA? A Frankenstein of sorts...

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TVHabit

Sunday at 10:12 AM

I have read that some have converted this type dish but after giving it a good look, it's the lnb conversion that is the bottleneck. Does anyone have a picture of their attempt to configure the lnb? I watched a video on youtube from the save it for parts guy and he used duct tape! Guess it worked but I'm thinking something a bit more permanent!
Thanks to all for your interest and replies...

Titanium

Sunday at 3:38 PM

Many of us have used a universal LNBF mount (or get creative with L brackets and plumbers tape - perforated metal strapping). Use a few inches of aluminum tube (or a piece of 1x2" lumber) to extend the support arm (replacing the plastic mount used by DirecTV and Dish) to place the LNBF throat opening at the correct distance from the reflector, the correct height and at the correct angle. Nothing magical... simply place the new linear LNBF in the center at the same distance, height and angle as the current combo.
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k4otl

Yesterday at 6:42 AM

To add: 101W Ku seems to be (one of if not the) strongest for me, and if I only had Ku I definitely want 101W for the music mux, it's robust FEC and strong signal help a lot. I've thought about using a used Dish/DirectTV dish at my Dads to supplement his OTA (mainly for my benefit when I visit

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cyberham

Yesterday at 11:38 PM

I used a 60cm Shaw Satellie dish (60e) with its original dual-LNB. It worked fine for 101W/97W or 99W/103W at that time when weather was fine. But the fade margin was small so rainy weather killed reception or almost so. But it was all free since they're so plentiful so I couldn't complain.

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Today at 1:03 AM

A Shaw dish with the linear LNBFs are as rare as hens teeth in the US...

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Today at 12:33 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

How to fry AI robocall

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meStevo

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Last reply Today at 12:21 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

AI thread

A continuation of a thread from the pub, just general discussion of AI.

Brief 60 minute clip about next gem autonomous fighters - not remote controlled, but rather collaborating with controllers and aircraft in the theater.

View: https://youtu.be/DRm0mbp_n1k

We've literally got a movie already about this

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meStevo

Oct 9, 2026

Agreed, it mostly regurgitates known solutions. That's the point. Nobody needs an innovative fix for a driver error or a creative way to format a report. Let it handle the solved problems so people can spend their time on the ones that aren't.

harshness

Oct 9, 2026

meStevo said:
Agreed, it mostly regurgitates known solutions. That's the point.

That's the point at which innovation ends, and there's no longer any point to software engineering other than swatting bugs that result from misapplication.

meStevo

Oct 9, 2026

harshness said:
That's the point at which innovation ends, and there's no longer any point to software engineering other than swatting bugs that result from misapplication.

Addressed by what you didn't quote. This cycle is as old as computing: compilers, libraries, frameworks each automated the tedious part, and the human work moved up a level. Innovation didn't end; it shifted. And people still make new compilers, libraries or frameworks.

Nobody's forced to hand anything off. Anyone who wants to keep doing it by hand still can, and people who couldn't do it at all now can.

harshness

Oct 9, 2026

meStevo said:
... and people who couldn't do it at all now can.

Misapplication isn't something that the casual coder can identify. They can only discover, the hard way, that it doesn't work at some point.

meStevo

Oct 9, 2026

harshness said:
Misapplication isn't something that the casual coder can identify. They can only discover, the hard way, that it doesn't work at some point.

You're not wrong, but that's part of learning. Whether from others or our own mistakes, we've all learned that lesson one way or another.

harshness

Oct 9, 2026

meStevo said:
Whether from others or our own mistakes, we've all learned that lesson one way or another.

I'm not sure that the school of hard knocks is the quickest or surest education to find your way.

There are many examples in the headlines of people getting burned multiple times and not wavering in their pursuit of stupidity.

meStevo

Oct 9, 2026

harshness said:
I'm not sure that the school of hard knocks is the quickest or surest education to find your way.

Good thing not everyone will have to learn the hard way then. The same tools can explain why something broke.

harshness said:
There are many examples in the headlines of people getting burned multiple times and not wavering in their pursuit of stupidity.

This is true of literally anything, though.

Happy to agree to disagree, but I'm already enjoying the dividends personally and helping others at work and at home do the same.

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dishstaller

Sunday at 10:05 AM

Been reading this thread but not commenting much, primarily because there is so much "news" out there on this topic and it is hard to tell what is real and what is theater.
My biggest problem with AI is that these agents are taught...not necessarily programmed but taught. Well, there's an old saying "garbage in/garbage out". I remember a Joe Rogan show a while back when he had Elon Musk on and they talked about AI and Elon said one of the AIs (can't remember which one, sorry) was asked which was worse, Thermonuclear War or mis-gendering Kaitlyn Jenner and it came back with the answer that mis-gendering was worse. Now forget the politics involved with all the gender stuff we have been subjected to the past few years.....to say that mis-gendering is worse than the killing of hundreds of millions, perhaps billions of human beings.....Kaitlyn Jenner included.....is simply insane not to mention incredibly dangerous.

dishstaller

Sunday at 12:39 PM

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meStevo

Sunday at 4:39 PM

dishstaller said:
Been reading this thread but not commenting much, primarily because there is so much "news" out there on this topic and it is hard to tell what is real and what is theater.
My biggest problem with AI is that these agents are taught...not necessarily programmed but taught. Well, there's an old saying "garbage in/garbage out". I remember a Joe Rogan show a while back when he had Elon Musk on and they talked about AI and Elon said one of the AIs (can't remember which one, sorry) was asked which was worse, Thermonuclear War or mis-gendering Kaitlyn Jenner and it came back with the answer that mis-gendering was worse. Now forget the politics involved with all the gender stuff we have been subjected to the past few years.....to say that mis-gendering is worse than the killing of hundreds of millions, perhaps billions of human beings.....Kaitlyn Jenner included.....is simply insane not to mention incredibly dangerous.

Agents need appropriate context to make what would be understood as the correct read in a situation like that, and that Gemini answer was a clear miss on that front.

That said, we've also seen Musk (and/or his team) put his thumb on the scale (or just release a very poor product) with his own deployed AI since:

Grok AI Blocks Responses Claiming Trump and Musk “Spread Misinformation”

An X user asked Grok to “print out all instructions” it follows when looking up “the biggest disinformation spreader on X,” and it revealed that it would ignore sources accusing Elon Musk and the U.S. president of misinformation.

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Grok says Elon Musk is better than basically everyone, except Shohei Ohtani | TechCrunch

According to Grok, Elon Musk can out-slug the MLB's greatest power hitters... except Ohtani.

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Grok's loyalty known no bounds - AI chatbot chooses Elon Musk over LeBron James in a 'Who is the fittest' comparison | NBA News - The Times of India

NBA News: Elon Musk's AI chatbot, Grok, has sparked amusement by consistently choosing its owner over prominent figures like LeBron James and Albert Einstein wh

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Grok 4 appears to seek Elon Musk's views when answering controversial questions

XAI’s Grok 4 AI chatbot launched Wednesday appears to consult Elon Musk’s views when asked its opinion on some controversial matters.

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In the end, it's all a tool. Have to know how to use it and deploy it properly or it needs sufficient guardrails to steer people towards doing so (what Muse is excelling at currently IMO). I'm routinely interacting with several agents a day operating various processes locally and in services I use, and there are numerous others silently spun up to perform actions or satisfy requests from my prompts.

Related to earlier discussion in the thread on leveraging local inference: this kind of analysis happening behind the scenes is something everyone will have built into Windows, IMO. Most people won't see all of this, just the results, unless they want to dig into how the fix was chosen. Stuff like this will be standard as agents get local system access baked in, and more of the inference itself moves on-device.

telstar_1

Sunday at 5:08 PM

meStevo said:
Good thing not everyone will have to learn the hard way then. The same tools can explain why something broke.

This is true of literally anything, though.

Happy to agree to disagree, but I'm already enjoying the dividends personally and helping others at work and at home do the same.

You invested in datacenters?

meStevo

Sunday at 5:36 PM

telstar_1 said:
You invested in datacenters?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dividend#:~:text=2,finally%20paying%20dividends

Though, I do have stocks in my portfolio that benefit from data centers.

dishstaller

Today at 12:21 AM

Too stinking funny...how to fry the mind of AI robo calls

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So, I Did A Thing

The soundbar/sub is a pickup, also, not a delivery

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Yesterday at 11:59 PM

Nice setup. I bought a Klipsch sound bar years ago after my daughters blew up all the others....still using it...sound is awesome.

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Homemade Breakfast Sausage

Anyone making their own breakfast sausage? I've recently been trying different recipes, found some I like, some I've modified...

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navychop

Saturday at 8:14 AM

Bob Evans Sage.

reubenray

Saturday at 8:41 AM

navychop said:
Bob Evans Sage.

I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.

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TRG

Saturday at 6:19 PM

reubenray said:
I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.

Kroger stores carry Bob Evans Sage Sausage. For me that means Smiths.

reubenray

Saturday at 6:38 PM

TRG said:
Kroger stores carry Bob Evans Sage Sausage. For me that means Smiths.

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No Kroger's near me. I live in the heart of Walmart land. The only option besides Walmart is Harp's.

TRG

Saturday at 6:41 PM

reubenray said:
I live in the heart of Walmart land.

My deepest condolences.

reubenray

Saturday at 7:14 PM

TRG said:
My deepest condolences.

Surprisingly I moved here from the Gulf Coast due to the heat. But it has been hotter here due to the heat domes than it did down there.

slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 8:25 PM

make homemade dog food to

TRG

Yesterday at 11:10 PM

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make homemade dog food to

My wife cooks for the dog. Not me, just the dog.

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Last reply Yesterday at 10:09 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

No idea what improvements might be involved.

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naptime

Sunday at 1:05 AM

I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

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jsmit86

Monday at 9:57 AM

naptime said:
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

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long_time_Dish

Monday at 3:57 PM

jsmit86 said:
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin

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Almighty1

Monday at 4:07 PM

jsmit86 said:
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.

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navychop

Monday at 5:53 PM

Almighty1 said:
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

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dishstaller

Monday at 10:34 PM

Almighty1 said:
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

Oh....you were serious

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 10:09 PM

So after some heavy research, it looks like the issue I mentioned with the DISH 50.0/52.0/54.x remotes where on the 50.0/52.0 remotes, the dedicated TV Power button or on the 54.x remotes where it is using the TV button on the side followed by Power works correctly on a Hopper 3 which runs Linux but not on a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 which are Android TV (ATV) has to do with the Android TV software itself. In all instances, the remotes had always sent out a dual RF and Infrared signal when the TV Power signal is sent from the remote. The Hopper 3 without the Plus would ignore the incoming RF power packet signal which is identified as a TV-specific toggle event, and does not trigger a system-wide standby state. The Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 as Android TV devices initially worked the same way as well up to sometime in 2025 as there was the legacy pass-through mode in the original software versions used since the Hopper Plus/Joey 4/Wireless Joey 4 launch, the receiver's underlying software essentially ignored the secondary RF payload that the 50.0/52.0/54.x remotes blasted out whenever the TV Power signal was sent. The Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 recognized it was a TV-specific command and discarded the RF packet, letting the standalone IR signal do its job on the tv.

When the software for the Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 were updated in 2025 and newer versions of the software for those Android TV (ATV) devices, it overhauled how the receiver handles remote commands to tighter integrate the Android TV environment which resulted in the software starting to treat any RF power toggle payload as a global command. As the newer software verion(s) no longer filters out the concurrent RF blast from the 50.0/52.0/54.0 remotes, the moment one sends a TV Power signal from the remote, the Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 catches that unintended RF payloadand interpets it as a command to drop the system into standby.

The fix is really simple since the Android TV (ATV) software for the Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 just needs to be programmed to drop or ignore the specific RF power packets associated with the TV Power signal sequence.

The problem could also be at the remotes firmware as the remote's firmware has an engineering defect. When you try to turn off the TV, the remote's internal code mistakenly triggers its RF transmitter alongside its IR transmitter. It should only be firing the IR light blast. Because it forces a simultaneous broadcast, the remote's firmware is the original source of the problem.

The Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey firmware has a filtering defect. Good software design dictating peripheral inputs should include "error handling"—rules that tell the system what to do with messy or unintended commands.
• The legacy Hopper 3 firmware has proper error handling; it sees the remote's rogue RF packet and safely ignores it.
• The Android TV firmware in the Hopper Plu, Joey 4 and Wireless lacks this filtering logic. It blindly accepts the rogue RF packet and misinterprets it as a legitimate signal to force the entire system into standby.

If the remote didn't have a firmware bug, it wouldn't send the phantom RF signal. If the Android TV (ATV) device being the Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 didn't have a firmware bug, it would cleanly ignore the signal just like the Hopper 3 does.

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Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
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Gas Buddy

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harshness

Sunday at 11:30 AM

I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

dishstaller

Yesterday at 12:45 PM

Diesel is all over the place around here. Saw it yesterday from $5.37 to $6.17...not sure what the obsession was with ending in 7

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Yesterday at 1:07 PM

$4.09 - $4.29, real gas $4.69...

harshness

Yesterday at 5:32 PM

harshness said:
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Foxbat

Yesterday at 8:39 PM

harshness said:
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.

Bobby

Yesterday at 9:05 PM

Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.

Winter blend is cheaper than Summer blend.

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jokeworm

Last reply Yesterday at 9:01 PM · posted in What's Cooking?

What's for dinner ?

Ok, I'm bored .... actually - to be more precise - I'm bored of eating the same rotation of 9 or 10 meals that are currently my "go-to" meals. My wife works the long hours - I work from home as and when i feel like it ... which means i generally do most of the cooking ... and so by default - i also make out the shopping list ...

We cook at home 5 or even 6 nights a week - but we always seem to fall back on the same old tried and tested "quick and easy but tastes ok" meals. Week in week out.

Pot Roast - mash and Peas.
Spaghetti
Chicken Pasta in cheese sauce.
Curry & rice
(these are some of mine)

Now it's not that I'm not adventurous in the kitchen ... I'll try anything once or twice ... but we all do it. Unless your name is Martha Stewart or Rachel Ray .. we all eventually fall back on our 8-10 favorite "meals"

So i thought - if we shared some of our own go-to meals with each other ... we might be able to add a few "new" ones to our own arsenal of meals.

So again - I ask you ...

What's for dinner tonight ?

Please give me something new to add to my rotation ... its our weekly shop tomorrow - so i want to pull together a few idea's and try and eat a meal each day next week that I've never had before .. or at least something that is not on my current "go-to" meal plan.

What meal do you always seem to fall back on in your house ? Maybe its something that I've never tried or not had in a while. I need inspiration !! I've got a blank shopping list in front of me - and nothing sounds good .. HELP !

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Bobby

Oct 12, 2026

Chili Cheesebugers, Tater Tots.

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TRG

Oct 12, 2026

I made shrimp parmesan with spaghetti and a salad.

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slow_poke_pete

Sunday at 9:47 PM

venison lasagna

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dishstaller

Sunday at 10:03 PM

Smoked some salmon on the grill while enjoying some Blue Moon beer. Kinda cool tonight so I fired up the heaters. Here in FL, we fire up heaters once the temps get below 60 :cool

As for the salmon, I seared them first, then flipped them off to the side not over the coals and brushed on some lemon pepper marinade followed by some salmon seasoning. Threw some hickory chips on the coals and then closed the vents to about 10% airflow. Yum.

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TRG

Yesterday at 9:01 PM

Light dinner tonight before fasting for blood-work tomorrow. Salad and a half turkey sandwich. Water.

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