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I was thinking the other day that if there is enough power to the dish to aim a dish via USALS, there ought to be enough power to turn the sensor to get the best skew. Of course already they have H or V on automatic. How much harder could it be to turn and set a servo thing with the receiver power?

One of the difficulties of getting S-2, for example is aiming and skew have to be dead on. If there were a skew control where it searched for the strongest signal, maybe a lot more people could grab some of these transmissions successfully. It just seems to me that everything is there for it.

On my system, for example, I have a Birdview dish. My lnb is wired directly and only to my receivers and the dish motor is wired directly and only to the G-box. That means all that USALS power could be applied to the LNB for skew control.

You might even be able to use updates or aftermarket software to control the servo for skew.

Just a suggestion. I am probable nowhere near the first to encourage this.
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B.J.
cracklin & greenguy... Initially, I had the same thoughts that you both had, however, particularly seeing these comments;

"Of course already they have H or V on automatic. How much harder could it be to turn and set a servo thing with the receiver power?"

"USALS power could be applied to the LNB for skew control"

I'm not at all convinced that the OP'er even HAS a polarotor servo. Basically, with no DVB reveiver I'm aware of, can you send any servo info down the coax (ie "to the LNB"). These two comments have me convinced that the OP'er is using an LNBF, which in all probabilty doesn't even have a servo, and probably instead electrically switches between fixed probes to select H/V. But even if he has an LNBF which DID have servos, I don't think there are any diseqC commands that could be used to pass that info to the LNBF. The Pansat sends info via separate wires, like analog receivers do, not down the coax.

Yes, a DVB receiver could send info over the coax, but there would have to be separate electronics out at the dish, either a separate unit if the OP'er has a polarotor, or a completely re-designed LNBF, and you'd have to have a completely re-designed receiver, and you'd have to get the diseqC protocol amended. Basically, I think the OP'er's suggestion is pretty much just a wish list thing of what it would be nice if receivers and LNBFs were designed this way, not something that could be done with existing hardware, either on the LNBF side or or the receiver side of things, and yes, it would be nice, but it's not going to happen. The receiver manufacturers aren't going to spend money to do something that can't be done with current lnbfs and the lnbf manufacturers aren't going to design something that no receivers can control.

Anyway, I'm still not 100% certain exactly what the OP'er has for hardware, and what he is suggesting, but while I may be wrong, my best guess is that he doesn't even HAVE a servo, and is confusing how a polarotor controller differs from polarity control in an LNBF, and is confusing LNBFs with LNBs.
cracklincrotch
All I know is that a gbox or an up to date receiver capable of running an actuator AND polarotator would sell well with our group. Yes an analog box will work but it doesn't work for the wife. That's the only reason I've got a gbox.
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cracklin & greenguy... Initially, I had the same thoughts that you both had, however, particularly seeing these comments;

"Of course already they have H or V on automatic. How much harder could it be to turn and set a servo thing with the receiver power?"

"USALS power could be applied to the LNB for skew control"

I'm not at all convinced that the OP'er even HAS a polarotor servo. Basically, with no DVB reveiver I'm aware of, can you send any servo info down the coax (ie "to the LNB"). These two comments have me convinced that the OP'er is using an LNBF, which in all probabilty doesn't even have a servo, and probably instead electrically switches between fixed probes to select H/V. But even if he has an LNBF which DID have servos, I don't think there are any diseqC commands that could be used to pass that info to the LNBF. The Pansat sends info via separate wires, like analog receivers do, not down the coax.

Yes, a DVB receiver could send info over the coax, but there would have to be separate electronics out at the dish, either a separate unit if the OP'er has a polarotor, or a completely re-designed LNBF, and you'd have to have a completely re-designed receiver, and you'd have to get the diseqC protocol amended. Basically, I think the OP'er's suggestion is pretty much just a wish list thing of what it would be nice if receivers and LNBFs were designed this way, not something that could be done with existing hardware, either on the LNBF side or or the receiver side of things, and yes, it would be nice, but it's not going to happen. The receiver manufacturers aren't going to spend money to do something that can't be done with current lnbfs and the lnbf manufacturers aren't going to design something that no receivers can control.

Anyway, I'm still not 100% certain exactly what the OP'er has for hardware, and what he is suggesting, but while I may be wrong, my best guess is that he doesn't even HAVE a servo, and is confusing how a polarotor controller differs from polarity control in an LNBF, and is confusing LNBFs with LNBs.

Right. Separate electronics. That is exactly what I'm recommending.

I have a satellite guy who swears having an adjustable skew via polarotor will get you more and better C band signals. I do know that I have trouble peaking my setup and only rarely can grab a few S-2 signals
cracklincrotch
That might only be a general rule. I have no problem with thee different s2 9/10 fec transponders on two different sats with my 7.5. That said there are a number of
S2 5/6 fec transponders on amc 18 that I hardly get a whiff of. And I know
I've got my lnbf skew bang on.
B.J.
That might only be a general rule. I have no problem with thee different s2 9/10 fec transponders on two different sats with my 7.5. That said there are a number of
S2 5/6 fec transponders on amc 18 that I hardly get a whiff of. And I know
I've got my lnbf skew bang on.


Yeah, I have the same observations. The general wisdom says that the 9/10th FEC transponders should be much harder to lock, but I USUALLY don't have problems with the 9/10th, but do have problems with others that should be easy, so it's probably some other issue like interferrence from other transponders. I say usually because there is one of those CBS 9/10 FEC transponders that seem to go into some unusual mode occasionally, and I have a very hard time with it, then, just like flipping a switch, they must change something, then it booms in. I've checked that the SR is the same, when I'm having problems, and it is, and I looked at the spectrum, and it doesn't seem to be a signal strength issue, so it's strange.

Re polarity though, except for AMC-1 Ku, I have the same polarity settings on all sats across the arc. I do like having the ability to tweak the polarity, however whenever I DO tweak the polarity, it always ends up back on the same settings. I have had occasions though where the polarotor seemed to go beserk. While watching signal, the signal seemed to go up and down. On my older IRDs, there was a setting that would turn off power to the polarotor after it's been on for a few seconds to set the polarity. I'm starting to think that the IRD I'm using now either doesn't have that setting or it's not set properly. I guess I'll have to look at the manual.
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Not alot of dish customers any more
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I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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I really dislike change for the sake of change
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
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Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
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No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
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Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
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If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!




Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
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"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
dishstaller
.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
meStevo
Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


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I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.

I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.


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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

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Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


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White Wedding - Billy Idol
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White Christmas - Elvis Presley
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Dirty White Boy - Foreigner
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Tickle Me (Dirty, Dirty Feeling) - Elvis Presley
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Dirty Diana - Michael Jackson