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NotTy
Last reply · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion
Dang it. I don't want to give up on my 4DTV but what else can I do? I live in an area where I can't receive local stations no more & after Jan 4th, I won't be able to get the Rocky Mountain 8 Networks or the east coast anymore either. I can't get cable where I'm at. And I was told that after the new upgrade on Jan 4th, my dish will never move again. How do I prevent this? I was thinking on getting an Mpeg FTA receiver but if the new 4DTV is going to freeze my dish to W-5, what's the point? How do I prevent my 4DTV from receiving the new upgrade & still receive W-5? I would like to be able to move the dish & still at least receive W-5. I've read this is a problem that might be solved, but "might" is not good enough. Also, DirectTv says they will not provide just the locale stations without a full package, a 2 year contract & a hold on my account. I'll keep my opinions about that to myself. All I want really, are the networks. Any suggestions or anything I can do to help prevent this? Any suggestions at all?
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NotTy
I tried that with Direct but they said I had to pick a qualifying package. I'll call Dish tomorrow & see what they say.
truckracer
I can't imagine any area that cannot get local tv with a proper outdoor antenna. Have you ever tried a high gain outdoor antenna? A high quality unit such as a winegard 9095 P with a mast mount low noise amp with high quality coax an a modern tv with digital tuner or a set top terresrtial tuner like mentioned above.

Also local broadcasts from various places can be had with a fta box slaved to your big dish.
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I tried that with Direct but they said I had to pick a qualifying package. I'll call Dish tomorrow & see what they say.
Directv requires a package because they lease the equipment

Oh wait, you mean buy a receiver out right? I didn't even know you could.

correct. Buy a used clean receiver on Ebay. Make sure it has the purple (new) card in it. Since you own the equipment you can get just locals for $10
TheTechGuru
Directv requires a package because they lease the equipment



correct. Buy a used clean receiver on Ebay. Make sure it has the purple (new) card in it. Since you own the equipment you can get just locals for $10

I might be interested in this but I have a few questions.

If I get a HD receiver will they do the HD version of them?

How tight are DN's spot beams compared to DIR? I would like to use a friend's address in Dallas to get Dallas locals. I live between two markets and my address is considered in the crappy one.

Is it possible to get NY and LA channels instead of locals? Claim RV?
Lone Gunman
I quit local TV back in 1988 when I got my BUD. With all the crap that's been put out over the last few of years and with NPS continually deleting ala cart stuff, I finally broke down two years ago and put up an antenna to receive the new "Gubmit" mandated digital OTA TV and it's been great for the most part. I'm picking up signals from 60 miles away in two different directions thru a "Gubmit" subsidized digital converter box for my OLD 50" Hatachi BIG screen TV that I still love to watch!! Before digital I could only pick up 4 stations on a good day, back in the day of analog but with this new digital format I'm getting 15 channels in digital quality that puts even BUD reception to shame! Only problem is that it's just the networks and what they offer, which isn't ALL bad.

The Magnavox converter boxwas $40 retail and the antenna was like $35 on fleabay and both were worth every cent I paid for them!!! And YES, I would buy them again!!!
TheTechGuru
Before digital I could only pick up 4 stations on a good day, back in the day of analog but with this new digital format I'm getting 15 channels in digital quality that puts even BUD reception to shame!

You need to try a DVB-S2 HD receiver then because the HD masters of the networks put OTA to shame. OTA is a 2nd generation encoding. All OTA is MPEG2. NBC and ABC masters for example are MPEG4/AVC and a higher bit rate than OTA.

The Magnavox converter boxwas $40 retail and the antenna was like $35 on fleabay and both were worth every cent I paid for them!!! And YES, I would buy them again!!!

I've tested about 6 different converter boxes and the Magnavox from Walmart was the worst of them all. My top two were a Zinwell and a Artec.
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Hell here in southern Saskatchewan we only get 2 OTA channels CTV and CBC. If it wasn't for BUD or pizza dish or cable we would not get much for TV. We only had 0ne OTA channel till about 1974 and right now the one channel has pretty poor reception right now.
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If I get a HD receiver will they do the HD version of them?
you have to be set up to receive the HD version but yes you get the HD version included if you sub to locals

How tight are DN's spot beams compared to DIR? I would like to use a friend's address in Dallas to get Dallas locals. I live between two markets and my address is considered in the crappy one.
Here is the map for the spotbeam for Dallas...pretty wide if you ask me
SatelliteGuys.US_TheList - Dish Network ALL

Good part is both SD (all) & HD (Big4 + PBS & CW) are on the same satellite (110) so a simple DIsh 500 is all you need for both SD & HD locals

Is it possible to get NY and LA channels instead of locals? Claim RV?

NY in SD yes HD no
LA no for both

NY SD is on COnus...the rest are spotbeams
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Hell here in southern Saskatchewan we only get 2 OTA channels CTV and CBC. If it wasn't for BUD or pizza dish or cable we would not get much for TV. We only had 0ne OTA channel till about 1974 and right now the one channel has pretty poor reception right now.

Canada is crazy in general for OTA. Unless you're in Vancouver, Montreal or Toronto your OTA is pretty sparce.
I know Thunder Bay has 4 stations
CBC
Global
TVO
SRC

they had that weird setup where the 2nd station was a CTV/Global/CH mix and they'd bump CTV programming to CBC if need be.
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I've tested about 6 different converter boxes and the Magnavox from Walmart was the worst of them all. My top two were a Zinwell and a Artec.

I've got 2 DTV Pal units and they are really good. Tried a couple other models and they sucked. ;)
NotTy
Good morning.
After the switch from analog to digital, I had to replace my old cable with new quad cable & ran it 3 inches from everything. The signal was way better & actually did pick up a couple more local stations but Fox is the only network channel I can get. I replaced my old antenna from the 70's with one twice as big that my parents gave me that they bought in the early 90's. There was only a slight difference. I live about 60 miles from the rest of the network channel locations & my antenna is about 30 feet high. I also live between 2 mountain ranges with a lot of hills. I have the cheap RCA converter but was told by Best Buy there really isn't any difference in decoding the signal as compared to the more expensive units, but the more expensive units have more whistles & options. But I never thought about a booster. I'm also suffering from the effects of the economy so purchasing on a gamble right now is still on hold. But the booster sounds like a good idea. I'm also thinking I would rather gamble on an FTA box. Any suggestions? I only have a 7.5 foot c band mesh dish. I bought a used C/Ku lnb about 4 years ago but never hooked it up, but I'm not sure if a 7.5 foot mesh dish is really even big enough to catch the Ku signals effectively.
So off I go to search for a good signal booster. Thanks again..

I can't imagine any area that cannot get local tv with a proper outdoor antenna. Have you ever tried a high gain outdoor antenna? A high quality unit such as a winegard 9095 P with a mast mount low noise amp with high quality coax an a modern tv with digital tuner or a set top terresrtial tuner like mentioned above.

Also local broadcasts from various places can be had with a fta box slaved to your big dish.
meStevo
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
meStevo
Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


View: https://x.com/RapSheet/status/2111074303185989663?s=20
dishstaller
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I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.

I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.


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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Juan
Not alot of dish customers any more
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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White Wedding - Billy Idol
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White Christmas - Elvis Presley
dishstaller
Dirty White Boy - Foreigner
Bobby
Tickle Me (Dirty, Dirty Feeling) - Elvis Presley
dishstaller
Dirty Diana - Michael Jackson
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
Anony55
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Nebugeater
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Former member 208119
Class action.
a hopper 3 with 6 firesticks and or if you wanna spend even more money apple tv's
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Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.
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Nebugeater
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.


Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Anony55
Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.
dishstaller
Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
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For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Scott Greczkowski
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
Foxbat
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
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zipping right along here
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WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
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wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
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I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
OMG to freaking funny :biggrin
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I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

Not likely since that place closed down.
TheRatPatrol
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Howard Simmons
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
dfergie
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
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Oh weird, it was I think a 20 minute version of this.


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Weird F1 weekend is already over with a Saturday race.
dfergie
Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
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Today is the anniversary of Dan Wheldon's passing at Las Vegas in a dreadful crash that luckily didn't take more drivers' lives. I vaguely remember the crash, but I more strongly remember Paul Tracy trying to keep it together as he left the Medical Center knowing that Dan most likely wasn't going to.

The safety in these vehicles is beyond incomprehensible, especially relative to what it was 60 years ago, when dying wasn't unexpected. But it is still very dangerous. I always scoff at the prayer invocations, but never scoff at the risks these drivers take and the emergency workers out there who might need to pull short of a miracle to save a driver's life.
Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
HBO Max has the live in car streaming without commercials, which provides an interesting take, but you are driving blind, knowing only what the team is telling the driver about what is happening on the track. The stages definitely ruin the NASCAR set up.