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Secret Asian Man

Last reply Dec 18, 2010 · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion

Can't View PVR from Pansat TC-1000 HD on my PC

I'm trying to record NASA TV using a Pansat TC-1000 receiver. I have the receiver hooked up via eSATA to an external HDD formatted to NTFS. I can record to the external HDD and play back videos using the TC-1000, but when I plug the external HDD into my PC (again, via eSATA), I can't view the files. I can't see any files at all. In fact, my computer doesn't even recognize the external HDD as an NTFS drive, and to use it at all I have to completely reformat it (back to NTFS). The odd thing is, even if I reformat it, I can still play back previously recorded files using the TC-1000 -- even though I can't see those files on my computer.

Can anybody explain what's going on here? I've called Pansat, but they weren't very helpful. They claimed that when the TC-1000 records to an external HDD, it doesn't change the filesystem, so it should still be NTFS, but the fact of the matter is that the hard drive becomes unreadable. My computer doesn't even recognize it as an NTFS volume. So of course I can't even see the files contained within. Even if I could, though, Pansat also says that the files are encoded using "FTA MPEG-2," which didn't make a lot of sense to me, since I thought MPEG-2 only came in one type.

In any case, Pansat says I would need to find a hard drive that can read files recorded as FTA MPEG-2. My question is: what do I have to do to be able to use my PC to view the files that my TC-1000 records onto my external HDD?

Many thanks!!

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comfrey

Dec 16, 2010

I'd be very surprised that the TC-1000 would support 'writing' to a NTFS partition. There would be Microsoft licensing issues. Even in the linux/GPL world NTFS is regarded as 'read only'.

Secret Asian Man said:
I'm trying to record NASA TV using a Pansat TC-1000 receiver. I have the receiver hooked up via eSATA to an external HDD formatted to NTFS. I can record to the external HDD and play back videos using the TC-1000, but when I plug the external HDD into my PC (again, via eSATA), I can't view the files. I can't see any files at all. In fact, my computer doesn't even recognize the external HDD as an NTFS drive, and to use it at all I have to completely reformat it (back to NTFS). The odd thing is, even if I reformat it, I can still play back previously recorded files using the TC-1000 -- even though I can't see those files on my computer.

Can anybody explain what's going on here? I've called Pansat, but they weren't very helpful. They claimed that when the TC-1000 records to an external HDD, it doesn't change the filesystem, so it should still be NTFS, but the fact of the matter is that the hard drive becomes unreadable. My computer doesn't even recognize it as an NTFS volume. So of course I can't even see the files contained within. Even if I could, though, Pansat also says that the files are encoded using "FTA MPEG-2," which didn't make a lot of sense to me, since I thought MPEG-2 only came in one type.

In any case, Pansat says I would need to find a hard drive that can read files recorded as FTA MPEG-2. My question is: what do I have to do to be able to use my PC to view the files that my TC-1000 records onto my external HDD?

Many thanks!!

FaT Air

Dec 16, 2010

My Ubuntu machine, along with my Openbox, doesn't have a problem writing to ntfs. But just to be sure, I'l go get the HDD and check again.

comfrey

Dec 16, 2010

You can write to NTFS under linux, but if you read the fine print it warns against it. "experimental use" it always says.
edit:
Apparently there is a product out that can read/write NTFS under linux, Paragon Software Group or NTFS 3G.
So I stand corrected.

Secret Asian Man

Dec 17, 2010

The same problem occurs when I format the drive to FAT-32, so I don't think it has to do with the NTFS file system itself.

The fact that the video files are still viewable with the TC-1000 even after I reformat the drive on my PC suggests to me that FaT Air is on the right track. Once I record files, there are two partitions (neither of which are readable from my PC) -- I believe it was a small 10 GB partition, and then the rest (in my case, nearly 2 TB of extra space).

Even if I delete both of those partitions and reformat the entire available disk space, I still get the same problem. Do any of you have a TC-1000 whose recordings you can actually view on a PC?

FaT Air

Dec 18, 2010

Even if I delete both of those partitions and reformat the entire available disk space,

what are you using to delete the partitions? If it's windoze, forget it, it won't play nice with you. Formatting the drive with windoze will make 2 partitions, one for it's use (that you cannot see on a windoze computer)and the other for you. If you can select partitions with the Pansat, formatting the HDD with windoze should work, as long as you can select "your" partition in the pansat, to use. If you can format the drive with the pansat, I would think that should work, BUT it may be only seeing the windoze partition on the drive, and only format that partition, and not the whole drive. My Ubuntu (Linux) computer "see's" both partitions of a windoze formated HDD. And being the OS for the Pansat is most likely linux based, I am sure it is recording into the partition windoze reserves for itself. But I would think you should be able to select "your" partition.
I'm aprehensive of using a third party partitioner(But others have had success) that will make a single continuous partition, as this could cause it to be unreadable under windoze. ( been there, done that, but recovered) Being the windoze reserved partition is gone, that's where windoze looks to read how the disk is formatted, sector size, encryption(If NTFS) file system, etc.
But It could also be tried. Might find a solution in this thread: http://www.satelliteguys.us/free-air-fta-discussion/235740-need-help-openbox-hard-drive.htmlI realize it's not TC1000 related, but dow get into partitioning the HDD. More partition utilities can be checked out here: partition downloads - Free software downloads and software reviews - CNET
I don't have a TC1000, but have an Openbox. It records in dvr file format, and guess the Pansat does the same. I haven't found software that will directly play a dvr file on windoze. File must be converted first. I haven't, yet, searched for a player for Ubuntu that will play a dvr file natively.

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teachtom

59 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Problem when I switch from Bonus View channels back to regular Dish channels

Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks

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Last reply Today at 2:19 PM · posted in What's Cooking?

What's For Lunch?

We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so...

Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
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2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
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add to greased pan
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now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...

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TRG

Monday at 3:34 PM

Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life.

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dfergie

Monday at 4:27 PM

TRG said:
Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life.

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Congrats! I love retirement, no wake ups, no e-mails...
Leftovers for lunch, bacon wrapped salmon fillet from Saturday and a KFC thigh from Friday, Tea.

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N5XZS

Last reply Today at 2:08 PM · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info

New low power station with CP has been granted. "Albuquerque "

New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.

Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.

It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.

This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.

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N5XZS

Yesterday at 4:51 PM

Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets on like the Rev'n, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 4:54 PM

N5XZS said:
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets like Revn, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station.

I watch MovieSphere Gold channel a lot. Many recent movies on that digitnet

N5XZS

Yesterday at 4:59 PM

Yes that's a good channel MovieSphere, only thing is the missing CC on it.

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comfortably_numb

Today at 1:35 AM

According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

FCCInfo Results

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primestar31

Today at 2:08 PM

comfortably_numb said:
According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

FCCInfo Results

FCC Info is a Radio and Television Station Search Engine provided by Cavell, Mertz & Associates, Inc.

www.fccinfo.com

Many of these in my DMA are on cell towers, so don't always reach very far because the towers aren't very high.

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zippyfrog

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 1:28 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Price Increase on Owned Equipment?

Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.

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zippyfrog

Today at 11:29 AM

However, when I make a change (tried to add the Columbian pack for $2 so I could generate my bill) and there is a new line - it says "Access for TV" - whereas previously that line item was not there. I hope they aren't charging $5.00 for the initial TV now...

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telstar_1

Today at 11:45 AM

Apparently it's not an "owned receiver" fee but rather an extension fee that's applied to 2nd and subsequent viewing. Maybe that played into their decision to force a box at every TV- garnering those fees

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zippyfrog

Today at 12:34 PM

telstar_1 said:
Apparently it's not an "owned receiver" fee but rather an extension fee that's applied to 2nd and subsequent viewing. Maybe that played into their decision to force a box at every TV- garnering those fees

Possibly. In theory, $9 of the base pack has a rental fee built in. But now is this $5 a chance to get a little more? I don't know for sure. According to chat, it is a glitch and will be resolved in a timely manner, but we shall see. Part of my thinks there is a going to be a new charge, whether it is now or this fall. Here in Illinois, the law requires we are given 30 days notice of any fee changes, but I have not been given anything.

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MikeD-C05

Today at 1:11 PM

These fees are why streaming has caught on so well across the country and DISH is losing subs each quarter. Soon won't be enough subs to be profitable.

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telstar_1

Today at 1:28 PM

Does cable charge box rent?

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Bruce

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 1:16 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Satellite now under 5 Million subscribers/Sling under 2 Million.

With the 1st Quarter Report just released, Dish lost another 180,000, now at 4.84 Million.

Sling now at 1.79 million subscribers, down approximately 190,000.

For comparison, YouTube TV now has about double the subscribers of Dish and Sling combined.

DISH & Sling TV Lost Over 366,000 TV Subscribers In Just 3 Months | Cord Cutters News

EchoStar Corporation, the owner of the DISH Network satellite television service and the Sling TV streaming platform, continued to experience steep declines in its pay-television customer base during the first three months of 2026. The company reported a net loss of approximately 366,000 pay-TV...

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fmj77

May 11, 2026

I'm surprised Dish still has that many subscribers. I don't know a single person in my area that is still with them after getting either Starlink or fiber at their home. They all cancelled Dish and went with streaming. I used to get offers pretty regularly in the mail to come back to Dish, but no more. Haven't seen one in a couple of years now.

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Bruce

May 11, 2026

fmj77 said:
I'm surprised Dish still has that many subscribers. I don't know a single person in my area that is still with them after getting either Starlink or fiber at their home. They all cancelled Dish and went with streaming. I used to get offers pretty regularly in the mail to come back to Dish, but no more. Haven't seen one in a couple of years now.

Only about 3.6% of Households in the United States, still have Dish Network.

For comparison, YouTube TV has about 10%.

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Yespage

May 18, 2026

$25 a month for 1 gig, for two years with Spectrum. I'd be darned that their router was MUCH better than AT&T's. I didn't realize that what I thought was something else was the bloody router. Those buffering issues stopped when I swapped... after AT&T refused to lower my bill, after 25 years of high speed internet service. They wanted $80 or so a month for 1 gig, with no drop to a lower speed.

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telstar_1

Jun 2, 2026

I despise that most of all. I'm going to talk to a remote?

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tsunami2311

Friday at 11:03 PM

Yespage said:
$25 a month for 1 gig, for two years with Spectrum. I'd be darned that their router was MUCH better than AT&T's. I didn't realize that what I thought was something else was the bloody router. Those buffering issues stopped when I swapped... after AT&T refused to lower my bill, after 25 years of high speed internet service. They wanted $80 or so a month for 1 gig, with no drop to a lower speed.

1gbit up and down here from att start out great was suppose to be $60 for life of service, with years time it went back up to $80 I complained about they gave us $49 for year which about to end, I Wonder what prices will be when it "up" I in no way like ATT fiber service there DNS that are hardcode and unchange able in the router are some WORSE DNS I ever used. you know how much of pain it is to change DNS setting on EVERY single wireless device...

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mwdxer1

Saturday at 3:08 AM

Bruce said:
Only about 3.6% of Households in the United States, still have Dish Network.

For comparison, YouTube TV has about 10%.

I dropped Dish a couple years back after having them for 25 years. The pricing got higher and after we got high speed internet, I watched it less and less. It got to the point all I watched was TCM for classic movies. Many of them are on You Tube now and a Premium subscription is $14 a month. A far cry of the $100 a month was paying with AT180, Supers, and locals. I get locals OTA anyway. I took down the dish several months ago and tossed it. I owned all my my equipment, so nothing to return. Do I miss a traditional cable type service? No way. If I want one I have all of the free live streaming with Roku, the Fire Stick, as well as Google TV. Right now as I type this, I am watching episodes of "The Midnight Special" from 1976 on You Tube, ad free. Dish was fine for many years. I do not regret buying the equipment and installing it myself (No installers in 1999). I enjoyed Dish for many years. My thoughts, Dish & Direct will be forced to merge in time, or they both will be gone. Even cable companies are getting out of TV. Some are only selling the internet and phone packages.

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tanman

Sunday at 12:01 PM

telstar_1 said:
I despise that most of all. I'm going to talk to a remote?

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nelson61

Monday at 8:20 PM

A lot of it flows back to the 4 big networks.
Cable and satellite are their money tree.

But, in reality, each market need 1 or perhaps 2 news feeds - not 4 or more

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MikeD-C05

Today at 1:16 PM

nelson61 said:
A lot of it flows back to the 4 big networks.
Cable and satellite are their money tree.

But, in reality, each market need 1 or perhaps 2 news feeds - not 4 or more

In my area we get 2 news feeds spread over 4 local stations.
ABC/NBC (TEGNA)
Same news cast simulcast over both channels.

CBS/Fox (Sinclair)
Same news casters at 5pm, 6pm, 10pm.
Fox shows an hour at 9pm but same news casters.

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