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Fred (linuxman) gave me a General Instruments 4DTV receiver the last time I was there to get a motorized ku system from him. I have set it up below my Openbox and turned it on. But now I have no idea what to do. I am not interested in a 4DTV subscription but would like to get the digicipher 2 fta channels that are available. How do I get this to play nice with my openbox and gbox? Where do I go from here?
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The nice thing about the 4d is you can sub to channels (it's original intent) and it can tune masters and the like in DC 2 when they are open. The problem is the maps with no support from the original provider for what is in the sky. SR, FEC, SID etc are changing as time passes and the updates are gone. When the 4D needs a MR its all gone. (most boxes will need one eventually just a matter of time) Channels like Bloomberg, Tv guide network and a few more have improper parameters if you have the old Motorola maps. At a thousand dollars a month per satellite, plus find a provider to transmit them like Starz did. That bill to keep things running and updated would be pretty high. I wish we could release Map Master now but its not ready for the end user, There are still hurdles to overcome. The USB guy that was supplying our test cables has made things very difficult for us with his couldn't care less support policy with bad products. Myself I never liked the idea of this as an interface but it was chosen because of simplicity. I wanted and still want the original BDM to parallel port that 4 play used. It would have been easier I think to design our own device and for those with out a parallel port on their computer could have got a adapter cable or a card for the pc. Then at least everything would have been in Map Master itself to control things vs relying on a 3rd party device & software from a guy that could care less about product he sells. Now we have to re invent the wheel. This only causes delays 
Anyone that wants to build one of the well known parallel to BDM devices and do some testing and join our group, contact me 4DTV Online... Contact Us We can provide a schematic if needed. It's time to branch off another R&D & test division with Map Master IMO.
Anyone that wants to build one of the well known parallel to BDM devices and do some testing and join our group, contact me 4DTV Online... Contact Us We can provide a schematic if needed. It's time to branch off another R&D & test division with Map Master IMO.
I worry about the "there is not much out there" statement. It is not just our predicament but if you check your programming guide regardless of what subscription service you are using you see an ever incresing number of programmers just looping the same programming over and over again some times for whole week marathons. Then there are the ludicrous "enhancements" they call them permanently cluttering major portions of the screen creating such distraction that watching is just too much of a chore and no longer entertaining. Find how many programmers are up there that are worth anything and you can probably count them on one hand. In reality subscription TV looks like it is heading for a crash.
The nice thing about the 4d is you can sub to channels (it's original intent) and it can tune masters and the like in DC 2 when they are open. The problem is the maps with no support from the original provider for what is in the sky. SR, FEC, SID etc are changing as time passes and the updates are gone. When the 4D needs a MR its all gone. (most boxes will need one eventually just a matter of time) Channels like Bloomberg, Tv guide network and a few more have improper parameters if you have the old Motorola maps. At a thousand dollars a month per satellite, plus find a provider to transmit them like Starz did. That bill to keep things running and updated would be pretty high. I wish we could release Map Master now but its not ready for the end user, There are still hurdles to overcome. The USB guy that was supplying our test cables has made things very difficult for us with his couldn't care less support policy with bad products. Myself I never liked the idea of this as an interface but it was chosen because of simplicity. I wanted and still want the original BDM to parallel port that 4 play used. It would have been easier I think to design our own device and for those with out a parallel port on their computer could have got a adapter cable or a card for the pc. Then at least everything would have been in Map Master itself to control things vs relying on a 3rd party device & software from a guy that could care less about product he sells. Now we have to re invent the wheel. This only causes delays
Anyone that wants to build one of the well known parallel to BDM devices and do some testing and join our group, contact me 4DTV Online... Contact Us We can provide a schematic if needed. It's time to branch off another R&D & test division with Map Master IMO.
I ordered my BDM cable in May, are you saying that it will not work now with the Map Masters once the cable is ok?
Wow. When I read the title.."New to 4DTV receivers" I pictured a person walking into a dark, quiet ballpark, hot dog wrappers and soda cups laying around, and no sounds except the breeze. The game ended hours ago, and he just got here! Well the 4DTV game isn't over yet, but I can see the bottom of the 9th from here....
Wow. When I read the title.."New to 4DTV receivers" I pictured a person walking into a dark, quiet ballpark, hot dog wrappers and soda cups laying around, and no sounds except the breeze. The game ended hours ago, and he just got here! Well the 4DTV game isn't over yet, but I can see the bottom of the 9th from here....
Exactly the feeling I was getting, so I left the ballpark. Already pulled the receiver offline and it is now sitting in the corner. Maybe I will tackle it again someday or maybe just try to sell it.
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Anyone making their own breakfast sausage? I've recently been trying different recipes, found some I like, some I've modified...
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Who cares if it's cheaper than store bought. you do realize that ground beef is like hot dogs right lips and a**holes!!! you have no idea whats in it and what animal came from what carcass right
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Tony as the director.
Would you rather have LaRoche ???Tony as the director.
No. Bring in someone new.
Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...No. Bring in someone new.
Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)
Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.
Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.
It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!
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Direct YouTube Link - SpaceX Seeks to Conduct 450 Starship Launches a Year in Texas!
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Time for another AWESOME video from Marques Brownlee!
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scwlR0QHGOk
Direct YouTube Link - The NEW Tesla Roadster: My Honest Reaction
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Direct YouTube Link - The NEW Tesla Roadster: My Honest Reaction
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Time for another AWESOME video from iJustine!
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View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/m44iKsdN1-Q
Direct YouTube Link - NVIDIA RTX Spark launch party!!!
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Buy her book!
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For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.
They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.
Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.
On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.
It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.
I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.
Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.
On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.
It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.
I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Has anyone subscribed to NBA League Pass for 2026-27 and try to link their account to NBA.com to stream League Pass? I purchased it for 2026-27, and when I linked, I got a message saying success, but then I receive an error that my linked subscription does not include the preseason games for NBA League Pass. Is that how it has always been? I know satellite doesn't have the preseason games on the NBA League Pass channels, but I thought that I was able to stream the preseason once I linked my account on NBA.com?
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Nah, you just don't understand how ignore works, which is why you made your own NFL thread thinking there wasn't one
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. 
WTF… …What the Foxbat!Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat.
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wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming youWTF… …What the Foxbat!
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you
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OMG to freaking funny
You're no fun.
