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I have a dish network service at one address, and I want to add a second account for a different address in another part of the state. Dish tells me that I have to take my locals from another market at this second address even though its only two miles out of my original market. I told them that the new address was in an "unserved" area of the new DMA per FCC rules since it is impossible to receive any of the channels OTA, but they told me I had to take those channels anyway. They gave me the runaround for two hours, and eventually told me that I would have to sign up for a two year agreement and then write to all of the stations in the new market asking for a waiver, and then they could possibly allow me to have the market channels from my original market.
They refused to let me talk to anyone who could explain their reasoning to me, and pretty much told me I would have to get another account and they would see what they could do. Does anyone know of a number at Dish that I could call to talk to someone higher up than "Customer Support"?
They refused to let me talk to anyone who could explain their reasoning to me, and pretty much told me I would have to get another account and they would see what they could do. Does anyone know of a number at Dish that I could call to talk to someone higher up than "Customer Support"?
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I understand he would like to pick his locals, wouldn't alot of us 
but he's not unserved as you state.
And if TV fool shows that, he would qualify for AAD if he wanted those. (Again, I realize it would not be the channels from his orginal address) Keep in mind he is stating he is not talking about his original address, don't know how that changes the orginal posts you found...
but he's not unserved as you state.And if TV fool shows that, he would qualify for AAD if he wanted those. (Again, I realize it would not be the channels from his orginal address) Keep in mind he is stating he is not talking about his original address, don't know how that changes the orginal posts you found...
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I'll go through each point you posted
the unserved part, while what is posted is true, gets thrown out the window if locals are available via satellite to you. Dish carries all local markets in SD. Directv does not carry all the markets. So if you live in an area that is not carried by the provider you may be able to qualify for distants. But Dish carries all markets so that point is moot.
the counties to the west are in the Lexington market. Nielsen Media is the one who decides what county is in what market.
Significantly Viewed is something that cable really has a greater pull than satellite does. Cable is allowed to have multiple locals available due to them having rules from the 1960's on what they can carry. Satellite's rules started early 2000's on what they could carry. Basically in very extreme cases do they allow more than one set of networks in a market. As example the address I have with Directv allows me 2 CBS affiliates. I get CBS Minneapolis (along with the other Mpls stations). I also get KEYC from Mankato which is a small market CBS (they still sign off every night). I am allowed both as the county I have the address in is considered Minneapolis market even though KEYC Mankato's studios are in it (Mankato is considered a different market). Its only that one zip code that you can get both. Across the river in Mankato you get KEYC and the other fill in Minneapolis stations but you dont get CBS Mpls or a couple other stations. Mankato you basically get the 4 networks and thats it
Dish has their SV offerings hampered due to a rule from 5 years ago. Dish use to offer folks distants who really shouldn't have. I will admit at the time I was one. Our cabin qualified for all distants but CBS (there is one nearby) but locals were available so technically I shouldnt have been able to get both but Dish allowed it. So I had Mpls locals and NBC, ABC & FOX from LA and Denver. The FCC cracked down and 12/1/06 Dish lost the ability to provide ANY station outside of your designated market....even if you legally qualified for it
Last year they could offer stations as "fill in" to markets that didnt have the full 4 nets. So in the case of Mankato, that only has CBS & FOX, they could get ABC & NBC from Minneapolis. This allowed Dish to offer every market out there...even if it had only 1 station. They could pipe in a neighboring market but ONLY if the market didnt have that affiliate. That closed the "unserved" rule
In your case WYMT is considered the Lexington market. However it is not on either satellite company. I assume for one of two reasons
-they cannot get a good signal to the main POP in Lexington....however since WKYT is a sister station they probably have the resources to get it there..
-if more than one affiliate is in a market, unless they are licensed to different states, both do not get must carry...in simple terms Dish and Directv do not have to carry both. They carry WKYT. Gray Television (owner of both) can ask for must carry but Dish or Directv dont have to carry it. I have a feeling its more point 1
If WYMT was on satellite, I have a feeling Directv would offer it in your area as SV.
If you are trying to get Lexington locals where you are currently in Whitesburg, the easiest thing to do is "move". Heck you already have an address in that market (your second location), use that as the physical address. Lots of folks are "movers".
Dish recently started being allowed to sell distants but only to RV'ers and semi-drivers and you have to submit paperwork to get them. They get NY & LA stations.
Believe me...I wish Dish and Direct could sell you any station that you wanted as long as you paid for it and were in the spotbeam. But the FCC and Nielsen say otherwise. That is why I have to resort to 2 accounts with 2 different companies. Directv I have Mankato & Minneapolis locals. Dish I have Duluth, MN locals
the unserved part, while what is posted is true, gets thrown out the window if locals are available via satellite to you. Dish carries all local markets in SD. Directv does not carry all the markets. So if you live in an area that is not carried by the provider you may be able to qualify for distants. But Dish carries all markets so that point is moot.
correct. Your county is considered the Tri-Cities market. as shown here
the counties to the west are in the Lexington market. Nielsen Media is the one who decides what county is in what market.
Significantly Viewed is something that cable really has a greater pull than satellite does. Cable is allowed to have multiple locals available due to them having rules from the 1960's on what they can carry. Satellite's rules started early 2000's on what they could carry. Basically in very extreme cases do they allow more than one set of networks in a market. As example the address I have with Directv allows me 2 CBS affiliates. I get CBS Minneapolis (along with the other Mpls stations). I also get KEYC from Mankato which is a small market CBS (they still sign off every night). I am allowed both as the county I have the address in is considered Minneapolis market even though KEYC Mankato's studios are in it (Mankato is considered a different market). Its only that one zip code that you can get both. Across the river in Mankato you get KEYC and the other fill in Minneapolis stations but you dont get CBS Mpls or a couple other stations. Mankato you basically get the 4 networks and thats it
Dish has their SV offerings hampered due to a rule from 5 years ago. Dish use to offer folks distants who really shouldn't have. I will admit at the time I was one. Our cabin qualified for all distants but CBS (there is one nearby) but locals were available so technically I shouldnt have been able to get both but Dish allowed it. So I had Mpls locals and NBC, ABC & FOX from LA and Denver. The FCC cracked down and 12/1/06 Dish lost the ability to provide ANY station outside of your designated market....even if you legally qualified for it
Last year they could offer stations as "fill in" to markets that didnt have the full 4 nets. So in the case of Mankato, that only has CBS & FOX, they could get ABC & NBC from Minneapolis. This allowed Dish to offer every market out there...even if it had only 1 station. They could pipe in a neighboring market but ONLY if the market didnt have that affiliate. That closed the "unserved" rule
In your case WYMT is considered the Lexington market. However it is not on either satellite company. I assume for one of two reasons
-they cannot get a good signal to the main POP in Lexington....however since WKYT is a sister station they probably have the resources to get it there..
-if more than one affiliate is in a market, unless they are licensed to different states, both do not get must carry...in simple terms Dish and Directv do not have to carry both. They carry WKYT. Gray Television (owner of both) can ask for must carry but Dish or Directv dont have to carry it. I have a feeling its more point 1
If WYMT was on satellite, I have a feeling Directv would offer it in your area as SV.
If you are trying to get Lexington locals where you are currently in Whitesburg, the easiest thing to do is "move". Heck you already have an address in that market (your second location), use that as the physical address. Lots of folks are "movers".
Dish recently started being allowed to sell distants but only to RV'ers and semi-drivers and you have to submit paperwork to get them. They get NY & LA stations.
Believe me...I wish Dish and Direct could sell you any station that you wanted as long as you paid for it and were in the spotbeam. But the FCC and Nielsen say otherwise. That is why I have to resort to 2 accounts with 2 different companies. Directv I have Mankato & Minneapolis locals. Dish I have Duluth, MN locals
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Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.
Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!
Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!
Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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'It Is Time Go!' — Project Hail Mary Is Officially Coming to Prime Video
Amazon has confirmed that Project Hail Mary will be coming to Prime Video.
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That's what I will be watching this weekend."Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
'It Is Time Go!' — Project Hail Mary Is Officially Coming to Prime Video
Amazon has confirmed that Project Hail Mary will be coming to Prime Video.
I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.
Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place.
Troy Aikman seems to confirm he'll be leaving ESPN
Aikman says he looks forward to "where my next landing spot will be."
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.Troy Aikman seems to confirm he'll be leaving ESPN
Aikman says he looks forward to "where my next landing spot will be."
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I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.
I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIhZm0qkz0o
I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIhZm0qkz0o
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.
They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.
Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.
On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.
It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.
I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.
Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.
On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.
It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.
I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. 
WTF… …What the Foxbat!Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat.
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wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming youWTF… …What the Foxbat!
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you
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OMG to freaking funny
Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Tony as the director.
Would you rather have LaRoche ???Tony as the director.
No. Bring in someone new.
Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.