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Last reply Sep 18, 2012 · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion

How to Edit your 4DTV Maps

How to edit your own maps: Part 1

THE "SIT" LINE :

Editing the maps is not that difficult but you need to have a good set of eyes to view the text file.

Each sat tile that is listed starts out with an "SIT" line.
The "SIT" line is extremely important and you do not want to make a mistake on this line or your sat tile may be out of position or not show up for you if you have it incorrect.
(One big reason we say always work on a copy of the nvram, so if you do make a mistake you still have the original file).

Here is part of the "SIT" Line:
SIT 003-G4,099.0,4678,P6,C,0000,V,0090,H,24,10,e4,00,0016;
This shows the SIT as 003 the number of the satellite and that number is also found on Diagnostic screen A converted to a 4 digit number (4099)
G4 is the name that will appear in the receiver when finished. This can be changed to any 2 digit number or letter or letter/number.
Example: if you wanted to change the G4 to say 99 for the satellite degree it is located at you can change it here. Just remember that if you change this area you must change each channel under that sit line that has the G4 to the new name also.
Only 2 digits will work as that what was set up by Motorola/GI.
The next numbers after the name is the satellite degree the sat it located at. in this case it is 099.0 degrees.
The 4 digit number after the degrees is the sat tile position in the receiver.
If it is UN-programmed in this will be set at 5000.
The P6,C stands for C-band and the "P6 or P2 (for ku)" mean s the satellite is programmed in. If it was UN-programmed in the receiver that would show "U4,C" for c-band or "U0,K" for ku band sat tiles.
After the "C" here are the numbers for the skew settings.
If UN-programmed in the receiver it will show as: -060,V,0030,H
If you have it set up already for your dish this could be a different set of values.

The 0016 at the end of the SIT line above represents the channel the 4D was last on while on this satellite. So in this case it was on G4-16. After that there is some data information that you should not change.

Now that is basically the info on the SIT line.

Below the SIT line are the transponders:
For now we are going to look at only the first transponder or in this case G4-01.
003-G4,00001,0,1,1,0,06074,001,00000,0,80,H,1430000,0,1,1,0,1,6.20,6.80,NTSC
The 003 flows back to the SIT number on the sit line as does the G4 for the name.
So if you decide to change the name on the SIT line of G4 to say G6, you need to change the G4 on each transponder under the sit line from G4 to G6 as well.
The 00001 is the channel number.
After the , (comma) there you have 4 more sets of 0's and 1's.... This can change for analog (NTSC) or digital. As digital there is a specific way to input the numbers here properly so a DC2 channel can show up.
Right now lets deal with NTSC only. For Analog this needs to be 0,1,1,0,
The next 5 digit set of number is the GUIDE DATA AREA. In this case it shows as 06074. This is the area that if you have the guide turned on you can create your own guide if you want on any satellite except X4 to anything you want.
All 0's here just means it is empty. If the number is put in incorrect and it does not correspond to anything then it will just show up as blank no guide info on that channel.

Any number beyond the NTSC on the text file is created by the map restoration program and this needs to show the same as the sat number at the beginning of the line
In the case of G4 after the NTSC it shows as: ,10,003
The 10 is from the Map Restoration program and the 003 represents the number of the satellite tile.

Now when you use the map restoration program you load in your nvram (bin file) and go to MAPS.... DISPLAY COMBINED MAPS... and save the file as a text file.

This gives you something similar to the #9 maps found on the website where the map files are located at. Since most of this is already set up for you (in the #9 maps) any tweaking can be done by copying and pasting and then just a little editing is necessary.

Any new satellite should be added as unprogrammed.
For C-band here is G4:
SIT 003-G4,099.0,5000,U4,C,-060,V,0030,H,24,10,c0,00,0001;

For KU it should appear like this:

SIT 007-L1,063.0,5000,U0,K,-060,V,0030,H,2,10,80,00,0001;

The ku line here is for L1 at 63.0 degrees West and the satellite number is 007.

The transponders under the SIT line for the most part you can copy and paste from the maps.

Now if you pulled out your nvram and wanted to keep your settings for many satellites then you can edit the SIT line for the sat position number to reflect your numbers.
If I lost you on this take a look at the very first SIT line at the top of this post.
G4 was programmed in at 4678 The UN-programmed SIT line shows it at 5000 because the sat tile is UN-programmed.

Explaining this makes it seem more difficult then it really is but in reality it is not difficult once you understand what the line mean.

Always remember that the commas( , ) are there to separate what the set of numbers are for. And in the text file anything commented out is always started out on a line with a semicolon ( ; ).
So if you see a line starting out like this;
;this is for a totally UN-programmed in sat tile list
It would not be seen by the map restoration program since it starts out with it being commented out with that semi-colon mark.
Notice how the SIT lines above here do not have that mark in front so the program would see this and read it.

Ok so this is mostly just the info for the SIT line.
Later I will put up another post on the transponder/channel lines.
(It is not yet written out).

The channels/transponders lines is where you can input guide data and add DC2 channels.

Just remember there are some active satellites which will send down information and X4 is one of the main ones. If you try changing anything on X4 it will be overwritten when you go to X4 from that satellite.
There may be 1 or 2 others but lately I have not seen this occur.
If it does, do not be alarmed it is that some satellites are more difficult to change then others.

(now you can begin to see why it took so long to get everything out to the public as first we had to understand what each area did and where it corresponded to. And this was just the SIT line being explained here.)

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Anony55

Sep 18, 2012

Thanks for this great information! I'm looking forward to your upcoming posts about TPs and channels too. I'm gonna c&p this into a text file for safe keeping.

Cheers

stargaze

Sep 18, 2012

Part 2:
Analog and DC2 channels.

015-G7,00012,0,1,1,0,00000,012,00000,0,80,V,1210000,0,1,1,0,0,6.80,6.80,NTSC,10,015
015-G7,00013,0,1,0,0,00000,013,00000,0,80,H,1190000,1,1,0,29.27,7/8,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00021,0,1,0,0,00000,021,00000,0,80,H,1038000,1,0,0,19.51,3/4,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00902,0,1,0,0,00000,025,00005,0,80,H,1281000,1,0,1,07.32,3/4,10,015,10,015
Here is an example of an Analog channel G7-12 and G7-13 is a DC2 channel.
The blue highlighted text is analog
The red highlighted text is DC2 for SR rate of 29.27
The orange highlighted text is also DC2 but a different SR rate of 19.51
The Green highlighted text is DC2 on low SR channels less then 19.51 so it is the same for 11.71, 7.32, 4.88 or any SR lower then 19.51
Notice how the first area next to the channel number for DC2 is the same but after the Frequency it can change.

For DC2 channels this is where it gets real interesting.
1) you have what is called the "BIT-STREAM" This can be bit-stream 1 or bit-stream-0 and in some cases it can be Bit-Stream-Both.
This is where a commercial receiver comes in handy to determine what it is.

Here are 2 channels from G7. Channel 117 is bit-stream-0 and Channel 118 in the same mux (set of channels) is using bit-stream-1.
015-G7,00117,0,0,0,0,03238,013,00001,0,80,H,1190000,1,1,0,29.27,7/8,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00118,0,1,0,0,00000,013,00002,0,80,H,1190000,1,1,0,29.27,7/8,10,015,10,015
notice the set of numbers highlighted in RED.
This is where the numbers after the channel number can be different according to the bit-stream.. However since it is the same SR of 29.27 after the frequency that section remains the same.

OK so what have we got here?
G7-12 is the first one posted here and that is analog, see the NTCS at the end of the line...
G7-13 is showing a DC2 setting in the analog section of the file. So that means there may be a DC2 channel below channel 24 someplace if there is actually a signal to be seen or locked.
In this case G7-13 shows a DC2 mux with a SR of 29.27 and FEC of 7/8.
Remember where the guide info goes? well the number to the right of it is also reflecting the transponder number here also. Look at G7-117 above... There is guide data there showing 03238 and directly after that guide data it shows 013 and the 013 points it to G7-13 in the analog section.
If you do not have this number correct here you will have problems.
Once you realize that the above highlighted areas are the only ones you really need to know it goes very quick.
After some time you can do it in your sleep.
Now your going to ask if you noticed it.... What is going on with G7-902?
I only mentioned corresponding DC2 channels to analog channels 1-24 but this is not the case here....
Well, this is because some receivers like the 920's and 921 receivers can not lock these lower SR channels and some satellites will create a channel roll-over or channels locking up and not going properly so the low SR channels reflect an undetermined analog channel in this case 25.
This was a real stumper for a long time to figure out a way around so all the channels could be put in one set of maps and all the receivers would work properly.
Earlier we had 2 sets of maps one for a 922 and another for the 920 & 921 receivers.
Now the newest maps have everything in there on the proper satellites like it should be for all receivers and the tests so far are working good as it was just done in the past week.

**This is not the case on all the satellites** some are fine and only a few have this problem with the low SR channels**

Lets go over a bit here:
004-X4,00318,0,1,0,0,02001,017,00001,0,80,H,1250000,1,0,0,19.51,3/4,10,004
This is from X4 digital channel 318
The bit-stream is 1 here (0,1,0,0,) if it was 0 then those 4 digits would all be 0's.
Guide info is 02001 and it corresponds to Channel 17 and the set of numbers after the 17 represents the SN (service number 1 here) it is Horizontal polarity frequency of 1250.000 and a SR of 19.51 and FEC of 3/4.
Locate this above on the X4-17 example provided, as all DC2 channels info is consistent with regards to Service numbers (which is needed to lock a DC2 channel)... etc....

Have you caught on yet?

If there is something I missed so far or something you don't understand ? ask....

You have the #9 maps from the website so use it as a guide.

Now lets look at an entire set of channels on sat tile G7:
015-G7,00001,0,1,1,0,06704,001,00000,0,80,H,1430000,0,1,1,0,0,6.80,6.80,NTSC,10,015
015-G7,00002,0,1,1,0,00000,002,00000,0,80,V,1410000,0,1,1,0,1,6.20,6.80,NTSC,10,015
015-G7,00003,0,1,1,0,00000,003,00000,0,80,H,1390000,0,1,1,0,1,6.20,6.80,NTSC,10,015
015-G7,00004,0,1,1,0,00000,004,00000,0,80,V,1370000,0,1,1,0,0,6.80,6.80,NTSC,10,015
015-G7,00005,0,1,1,0,00000,005,00000,0,80,H,1350000,0,1,1,0,0,6.80,6.80,NTSC,10,015
015-G7,00006,0,1,1,0,00000,006,00000,0,80,V,1330000,0,1,1,0,0,6.80,6.80,NTSC,10,015
015-G7,00007,0,1,1,0,00000,007,00000,0,80,H,1310000,0,1,1,0,0,6.80,6.80,NTSC,10,015
015-G7,00008,0,1,1,0,00000,008,00000,0,80,V,1290000,0,1,1,0,1,6.20,6.80,NTSC,10,015
015-G7,00009,0,1,0,0,00000,009,00000,0,80,H,1270000,1,0,0,19.51,3/4,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00010,0,1,1,0,00000,010,00000,0,80,V,1250000,0,1,1,0,1,6.20,6.80,NTSC,10,015
015-G7,00011,0,1,1,0,00000,011,00000,0,80,H,1230000,0,1,1,0,0,6.80,6.20,NTSC,10,015
015-G7,00012,0,1,1,0,00000,012,00000,0,80,V,1210000,0,1,1,0,0,6.80,6.80,NTSC,10,015
015-G7,00013,0,1,0,0,00000,013,00000,0,80,H,1190000,1,1,0,29.27,7/8,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00014,0,1,1,0,00000,014,00000,0,80,V,1170000,0,1,1,0,0,6.80,6.80,NTSC,10,015
015-G7,00015,0,1,1,0,00000,015,00000,0,80,H,1150000,0,1,1,0,0,6.80,6.20,NTSC,10,015
015-G7,00016,0,1,1,0,00000,016,00000,0,80,V,1130000,0,1,1,0,0,6.80,6.80,NTSC,10,015
015-G7,00017,0,1,1,0,00000,017,00000,0,80,H,1110000,0,1,1,0,0,6.80,6.80,NTSC,10,015
015-G7,00018,0,1,1,0,04567,018,00000,0,80,V,1090000,0,1,1,0,0,6.80,6.80,NTSC,10,015
015-G7,00019,0,1,1,0,00000,019,00000,0,80,H,1070000,0,1,1,0,1,6.20,6.80,NTSC,10,015
015-G7,00020,0,1,1,0,00000,020,00000,0,80,V,1050000,0,1,1,0,0,6.80,6.80,NTSC,10,015
015-G7,00021,0,1,0,0,00000,021,00000,0,80,H,1038000,1,0,0,19.51,3/4,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00022,0,1,1,0,00000,022,00000,0,80,V,1010000,0,1,1,0,1,6.20,6.80,NTSC,10,015
015-G7,00023,0,1,1,0,00000,023,00000,0,80,H,0990000,0,1,1,0,0,6.80,6.80,NTSC,10,015
015-G7,00024,0,1,1,0,00000,024,00000,0,80,V,0970000,0,1,1,0,0,6.80,6.80,NTSC,10,015
015-G7,00105,0,1,0,0,00000,021,00006,0,80,H,1038000,1,0,0,19.51,3/4,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00106,0,1,0,0,02788,021,00007,0,80,H,1038000,1,0,0,19.51,3/4,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00107,0,1,0,0,00000,021,00008,0,80,H,1038000,1,0,0,19.51,3/4,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00108,0,1,0,0,00000,021,00009,0,80,H,1038000,1,0,0,19.51,3/4,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00109,0,1,0,0,00000,021,00010,0,80,H,1038000,1,0,0,19.51,3/4,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00110,0,1,0,0,00000,021,00011,0,80,H,1038000,1,0,0,19.51,3/4,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00111,0,1,0,0,06207,021,00012,0,80,H,1038000,1,0,0,19.51,3/4,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00112,0,0,0,0,06080,013,00010,0,80,H,1190000,1,1,0,29.27,7/8,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00113,0,0,0,0,05101,013,00011,0,80,H,1190000,1,1,0,29.27,7/8,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00114,0,0,0,0,02552,013,00012,0,80,H,1190000,1,1,0,29.27,7/8,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00115,0,0,0,0,02553,013,00013,0,80,H,1190000,1,1,0,29.27,7/8,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00116,0,0,0,0,04074,013,00014,0,80,H,1190000,1,1,0,29.27,7/8,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00117,0,0,0,0,03238,013,00001,0,80,H,1190000,1,1,0,29.27,7/8,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00118,0,1,0,0,00000,013,00002,0,80,H,1190000,1,1,0,29.27,7/8,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00119,0,1,0,0,00000,013,00003,0,80,H,1190000,1,1,0,29.27,7/8,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00120,0,1,0,0,00000,013,00004,0,80,H,1190000,1,1,0,29.27,7/8,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00121,0,1,0,0,00000,013,00005,0,80,H,1190000,1,1,0,29.27,7/8,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00122,0,1,0,0,01215,013,00006,0,80,H,1190000,1,1,0,29.27,7/8,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00123,0,1,0,0,01676,013,00009,0,80,H,1190000,1,1,0,29.27,7/8,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00902,0,1,0,0,00000,025,00005,0,80,H,1281000,1,0,1,07.32,3/4,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00903,0,1,0,0,04893,025,00003,0,80,H,1281000,1,0,1,07.32,3/4,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00904,0,1,0,0,00000,025,00001,0,80,H,1281000,1,0,1,07.32,3/4,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00905,0,1,0,0,00000,025,00002,0,80,H,1281000,1,0,1,07.32,3/4,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00906,0,1,0,0,00000,025,00004,0,80,H,1281000,1,0,1,07.32,3/4,10,015,10,015
015-G7,00907,0,1,0,0,00000,025,00006,0,80,H,1281000,1,0,1,07.32,3/4,10,015,10,015
;
See the commented line directly above here... this is in-between each different satellite.
Using all the above info see if you now begin to understand what is needed to rewrite the maps.
Don't be intimidated by the large file of text. Work on one sat at a time.
Now if something changes you can basically write your own maps and send it to your receiver to see if it works or not.
If it is right then on diagnostic screen C ... Options > 6>0>5 right arrow over 2 times.
You will see a 7 on the top left of the screen... This is on a DC2 channel and that means that you have a DC2 lock. Now use the left arrow one time to diagnostic B screen and if you see MP at the very bottom 2 lines, if so then the channel is encrypted. US there means that either your SN is incorrect or there is nothing there.
Of course if you find something in FP or ZK you will see a picture unless as is the case on a couple channels up there on some satellites they are in FP but the screen is blank as there is no programming at that time playing. Check those out later....

If there are any questions feel free to ask as doing this for a year some things are like second nature to me so I may have missed something.....

stargaze

Sep 18, 2012

post # 3

Some may have put the #9 maps into their receiver and say you have a channel like
G7-101 to G7-104
If you do you get a gray screen and it may say searching for information or something.
Yet diagnostic screen C shows a 7 in the top left corner.
But then you need to look at diagnostic screen B.
Those channels should show as "US" undefined service....
This is because that particular DC2 mux up there has those channels defined but have nothing on them at this time. If they shuffled around their channels at a latter date they could move one from their mux there or even add a new channel there at any time they wanted without changing anything to their master control center for up-linking to that mux.

When doing the master maps this occurred on a few satellites so it was made up with room in case they put something there so you would not need to redo things all the time in these particular cases. Sort of like thinking ahead of the game.

However the newer maps will not have those in them when they are put up or people ask for a set.....

A large amount of time was spent to figure out the channel rollover on certain 920 /921 receivers so that was a priority to get corrected.

stargaze

Sep 18, 2012

now using the map restoration program:
Always use a copy of your nvram (bin file) that way if something goes wrong you still have the original.

So you already used the BDM device and download your nvram.
Make a copy in a new folder and use the copy to work with.

Download the #9 maps from the website as this will make things really simple for you.

Now open up the map restoration program and load your copy of the nvram (bin) file.
Then locate the MAPS button at the top and click on MAPS > Display Combined Maps.... and save as a text file your original mappings that were in your receiver.
This has your time zone info, Remote control info, your East West limits, and your guide bit information already in this file. Also your EMM provider info.

If your receiver was used as a dish mover you have sat tile settings in this text file also on each SIT line.

Just remember one thing.
*Always send back to the receiver your nvram at the same place where you took it out of **
So if you dumped your nvram off of say X4-210 you want to make sure your dish is still at X4 when putting it back in so you will not have to reset all your dish settings.

The text file you just created you can then copy from the #9 mappings much of that info from channels 1 to whatever it goes to on each satellite but keep your SIT line intact if the name and sat number matches.
If it has changed the SIT line can be modified or use the #9 maps and change those sat tiles to unprogrammed.

Now some satellite names will have changed but some are the same so the ones that remain the same like G4, G5,C3,G1,T7,T4,T5,P9,and there are others, you can write down the SIT position number described in above posts and add them to the new SIT line for those satellites. In the case of GB changing to G7 change the SIT line from GB to G7 and keep the same dish position number.
In other cases you may want to just program in others as un-programmed like H1 or N6 as these were totally rewritten. however at the web site you will see a sat position document. This is one you can keep track of the dish position number on so setting back up will be a breeze using that file.

It is the stating point you need to have right so taking the nvram out and putting it back in should be done on something like X4 for ease of use or G0.

Ok back to the program.... once you have your text file the way you want it.....
load up your original NVRAM (the copy), and then go to MAPS>LOAD MASTER MAPS >>> and locate that new text file you just finished and then save it as a newly named bin file.
That newly named bin file is what you will send back to the 4DTV using the BDM device.

Those instructions are at the website So I will not be going over those here again. See the website for instructions on how to use the BDM device.

Doing it this way you will save your original setting as for East-West limits, Remote control code, your Time zone, and guide settings.
plus a few other things....
Like your receiver's RID info and other info.

I hope this is explained to where you can understand it.

stargaze

Sep 18, 2012

Now with all this information and the numbers for the guide information (if you have the guide turned on) you can find that guide info in another area on this site I posted today....
You can set up your 4d as your own private tv guide viewing...
so if you have a FTA DVB receiver slaved from the 4d and you wanted to watch some sports game that one major sports network was airing but you did not know exactly when it was going to be aired you can have that networks guide info in your receiver someplace and then hunt with your DVB FTA receiver to locate the back-haul or main up-link.
Also true for the 4 major networks, well at least for the East Coast time zone.
And also for any other one listed in that post on the guide info.

I have tested this out for a few weeks now and believe me it is nice!
Usually I like to find one satellite and then put that info for the extra guide into the analog 1-24 channels. Or you could put it on different sats where you normally find them in DVB FTA but it is however you want it to be for yourself. Use your imagination. I just would not place that info on a DC2 channel in case it is already there and that would be really confusing.

There is some work involved to set it up for your own desires.

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tparker

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"Bonus View" Channel List

I was bewildered with all the new DISH TV "Bonus View" channels, so I put together a web page table with all the info I could find. It's at:

https://anythingpeaceful.org/dishtv/DISH_TV_Bonus_View_Channels.html

Here's a partial screenshot of the table, as sorted by Channel Name. (You can click on a column header to sort.)

If you have any corrections or suggestions, please post here.

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tparker

Jun 1, 2026

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navychop

Jun 1, 2026

Easy come, easy go- can't count on anything.

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tparker

Jun 3, 2026

2 Bonus View channels removed today:

My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the tip.

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tparker

16 minutes ago

One added, one removed. But I think it's really only a name change, with similar (or identical?) programming.

My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the alert.

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Jim5506

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tparker said:
One added, one removed. But I think it's really only a name change, with similar (or identical?) programming.

View attachment 191718

My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the alert.

A dandilion by any other name.

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N5XZS

Last reply Today at 4:59 PM · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info

New low power station with CP has been granted. "Albuquerque "

New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.

Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.

It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.

This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.

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Mr Tony

Today at 12:28 PM

N5XZS said:
This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time

probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations

Get After It Media

www.getafteritmedia.com

Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc

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N5XZS

Today at 12:49 PM

Hope they got good subchannels encoder going there...

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comfortably_numb

Today at 4:35 PM

Mr Tony said:
probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations

Get After It Media

www.getafteritmedia.com

Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc

We already have those diginets here.

N5XZS

Today at 4:51 PM

Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets on like the Rev'n, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2

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comfortably_numb

Today at 4:54 PM

N5XZS said:
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets like Revn, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station.

I watch MovieSphere Gold channel a lot. Many recent movies on that digitnet

N5XZS

Today at 4:59 PM

Yes that's a good channel MovieSphere, only thing is the missing CC on it.

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Today at 4:52 PM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Siri AI Delayed in EU Over DMA

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Last reply Today at 4:51 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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FTA4PA

Today at 10:57 AM

Margaritaville - Jimmy Buffett

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Today at 10:59 AM

Top Jimmy - Van Halen

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Today at 12:37 PM

You're the Top - Allan Sherman

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Today at 3:42 PM

Top Of The World - The Carpenters

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Top of the World - Van Halen

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dfergie

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Last reply Today at 4:11 PM · posted in What's Cooking?

What's For Lunch?

We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so...

Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...

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dfergie

Jun 3, 2026

Green turkey enchilada casserole, ate one bowl, had pinto beans & taco meat side… Tea
Like this recipe with ground turkey & Herdez guacamole medium salsa…

TRG

Monday at 3:34 PM

Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life.

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dfergie

Monday at 4:27 PM

TRG said:
Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life.

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Congrats! I love retirement, no wake ups, no e-mails...
Leftovers for lunch, bacon wrapped salmon fillet from Saturday and a KFC thigh from Friday, Tea.

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TRG

Monday at 4:50 PM

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Congrats! I love retirement, no wake ups, no e-mails...
Leftovers for lunch, bacon wrapped salmon fillet from Saturday and a KFC thigh from Friday, Tea.

I've been retired since October. It was very strange at first. But I'm loving it now.

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Today at 4:11 PM

Creamy flat enchiladas with green chile, beans and rice.

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nelson61

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Last reply Today at 3:54 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

EchoStar 25 @110W March 9/10 - 2026.

EchoStar has filed with FCC for license and launch of the EchoStar 25 satellite at the nominal 110W slot.

------"At the nominal 110° W.L. orbital location, EchoStar is licensed to operate over 29 of the available 32 DBS channels (specifically channels 1-27, 29,and 31).3 Currently, EchoStar provides service over these channels from the 110° W.L. cluster utilizing the EchoStar 10, EchoStar 11 (in inclined orbit), and EchoStar 23 satellites; and from the 119° W.L. cluster utilizing the EchoStar 14 and EchoStar 15 satellites. EchoStar anticipates that EchoStar 25 will be ready for launch as early as the first quarter of 2026. EchoStar anticipates that EchoStar 25, a spot-beam satellite, will take over delivery of certain programming services from EchoStar 10 and 14. After launch and in-orbit testing ("IOT"),4EchoStar 25 will proceed directly to 110.0° ± 0.05° W.L. Once EchoStar 25 is placed into operation, EchoStar 10 will initially remain at 110.2° W.L. serving as an in-orbit spare and may ultimately be relocated subject to all appropriate Commission authorizations. EchoStar 14 will remain at the nominal 119° W.L. orbital location and serve as an in-orbit spare once EchoStar 25 begins service." -----

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zippyfrog

Jun 3, 2026

I can tell the new satellite is active... When I go to the point dish menu, here in Chicago, 110 TP 27, which is a Spotbeam, for me with the old satellite was in the signal strength 50's-60's, is now just fluttering between 16-18.

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dishrich

Saturday at 4:21 PM

zippyfrog said:
When I go to the point dish menu, here in Chicago, 110 TP 27, which is a Spotbeam, for me with the old satellite was in the signal strength 50's-60's, is now just fluttering between 16-18.

Any chance you (or somebody else w/Chicago locals) could check & see where all the Chicago locals moved to, please...

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zippyfrog

Sunday at 7:26 AM

Actually, I can't seem to add the locals back to my account to check right now - when I go to add it and I submit the changes, it shows that I have added 1802 local channels (the whole country) and nothing happens. Something must be wrong with their website.

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RJT79

Yesterday at 10:25 PM

dishrich said:
Any chance you (or somebody else w/Chicago locals) could check & see where all the Chicago locals moved to, please...

I just happened to find out that I won White Sox tickets for tomorrow nights game June 10th. Yahoo! I just picked up my tickets around 8 P.M. local time and it is kind of late planning I know but I am leaving here in just a few and heading up to Peotone to stay the night tonight in a hotel and be there for tomorrow night as well. Its 9:21 P.M. Central Time now. I am hoping to beat the possible thunderstorms and fog early this morning up there and the weather there tomorrow as well. I oh so hope they play and no severe weather! Anyways, I just unhooked my Wally receiver and my DISH Playmaker and I am taking it with me. Peotone is in the Chicago Locals market and with me having a DISH Outdoors account I can change it when I get up there. I will have a check when I get there and I can post and let you know. I can put the antenna on top of the roof of the vehicle and run a 12 ft. coaxial cable running through the trunk into the vehicle. I have a DC to AC converter in the vehicle and can bring my Cloner Alliance ViewPRO to use as a the screen. I may even watch a little TV throughout the evening as well and maybe a little WGN as well. I miss WGN. I use to watch the Cubs, White Sox, and Bulls games on WGN and listen to the news and Tom Skilling a bunch. I hated it in December of 2014 when it became a standard cable network only. This will be only my 2nd time since they became a standard cable network and now defunct and rebranded as NewsNation that I actually get to see WGN again. The only other time was in 2016 up in Chicago as well and they were a standard cable network here then and not available locally. I now need to get going. I will let you know later.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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RJT79

Today at 3:07 AM

RJT79 said:
I just happened to find out that I won White Sox tickets for tomorrow nights game June 10th. Yahoo! I just picked up my tickets around 8 P.M. local time and it is kind of late planning I know but I am leaving here in just a few and heading up to Peotone to stay the night tonight in a hotel and be there for tomorrow night as well. Its 9:21 P.M. Central Time now. I am hoping to beat the possible thunderstorms and fog early this morning up there and the weather there tomorrow as well. I oh so hope they play and no severe weather! Anyways, I just unhooked my Wally receiver and my DISH Playmaker and I am taking it with me. Peotone is in the Chicago Locals market and with me having a DISH Outdoors account I can change it when I get up there. I will have a check when I get there and I can post and let you know. I can put the antenna on top of the roof of the vehicle and run a 12 ft. coaxial cable running through the trunk into the vehicle. I have a DC to AC converter in the vehicle and can bring my Cloner Alliance ViewPRO to use as a the screen. I may even watch a little TV throughout the evening as well and maybe a little WGN as well. I miss WGN. I use to watch the Cubs, White Sox, and Bulls games on WGN and listen to the news and Tom Skilling a bunch. I hated it in December of 2014 when it became a standard cable network only. This will be only my 2nd time since they became a standard cable network and now defunct and rebranded as NewsNation that I actually get to see WGN again. The only other time was in 2016 up in Chicago as well and they were a standard cable network here then and not available locally. I now need to get going. I will let you know later.

RJ T.
From Illinois

Update Wednesday June 10, 2026 @ 1:07 A.M. CDT.

Well I made it safely to Peotone, IL and got checked in. Sitting in the vehicle right now and everything is hooked up and ran and locals changed through the App.

I only have 2 words. "Very Interesting"

This is going to take awhile to post all of this and get all of this right so I am going to be looking up some info as I type.

Chicago has tons of channels! 18! To be exact all in HD.

So let's start.

002-00 WBBM (CBS) SAT: 110 SB: 12
Now playing: (Comics Unleashed With Byron Allen)

005-00 WMAQ (NBC) SAT: 110 SB: 12
Now playing: (NBC Nightly News With Tom Llamas)

007-00 WLS (ABC) SAT: 110 SB: 12
Now playing: (Live with Kelly and Mark)

009-00 WGN (CW) SAT: 110 SB: 12
Now playing: (The Goldbergs)

011-00 WTTW (PBS) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Now Playing: (Nature)

023-00 WWME (METV) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Now Playing: (Mannix)

026-00 WCIU (IND) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Shows The U - Now playing: (The Perfect Line)

Time change to 1:30 AM

032-00 WFLD (FOX) SAT: 110 SB: 12
Now Playing: (Sherri)

038-00 WCPX (ION) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Now Playing: (Chicago Fire)

044-00 WSNS (TELM) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Telemundo Channel speaking Spanish.
Now Playing: (Programa pagado)

048-00 WMEU (IND) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Now Playing: (Comedy Classics)

050-00 WPWR (IND) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Infomercial right now playing: (Ideal Prostrate+ Provides Safe)

056-00 WYIN (PBS). SAT: 110 SB: 26
Shows Lakeshore PBS - Now Playing: (Amanapour and Company)

059-00 WTVK (SHOP LC) SAT: 110 SB: 26
It is the Shop Liquidation Channel. All I get is a black background but was able to obtain satellite and spotbeam information - Shows playing in guide (which isn't) Spectacular Night Owl Jewelry Deals

060-00 WXFT (UNIMAS) SAT: 110 SB: 26
UNIMAS Channel speaking Spanish - Now Playing: (El Chavo)

061-00 WPVN (IND) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Shows WiN TV on the screen with Korean people and Korean Language - Now Playing: (WIN BNC)

062-00 WJXS (IND) SAT: 110 SB: 12
Shows wjys The Way - Now Playing; (Paid Proograming) but a church service is showing instead.

And finally…

And a time change to 2:00 AM

066-00 WGBO (UNIV) SAT: 110 SB: 26
Univision Channel speaking Spanish - Now Playing: (Programa pagado)

Now done!

Wow! About an hour's worth!

So it appears they changed as well to the 110 Satellite and using 2 Spotbeams 12 & 26.

Got to head up to my room and get some sleep. I will be here until late afternoon tomorrow before I head up to the game and will be back here after the game tommorow night and head back home Thursday morning.

Take care everyone and have a good night and a good Wednesday and Thursday. Probably won't be back on until Thursday.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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zippyfrog

Today at 8:05 AM

This is really interesting. Thanks for posting the Chicago locals - I still can't add them to my account for some reason.

But what I find even more interesting is that you are reporting that some of the Chicago locals are on 110, TP 12. However, right now some of the national sports channels for the out of market sports channels are on 110, TP 12 as well. MLB Network Alternate, for example, is currently on 110, TP 12. And to my knowledge, the same transponder cannot be both a national ConUS transponder as well as a local spotbeam. I wonder if having both satellites active at the same time is causing some coding issue or something like that - for my receiver, it is as if it is checking one satellite, times out, then checks the second satellite for the signal strength.

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RJT79

Today at 3:54 PM

zippyfrog said:
This is really interesting. Thanks for posting the Chicago locals - I still can't add them to my account for some reason.

But what I find even more interesting is that you are reporting that some of the Chicago locals are on 110, TP 12. However, right now some of the national sports channels for the out of market sports channels are on 110, TP 12 as well. MLB Network Alternate, for example, is currently on 110, TP 12. And to my knowledge, the same transponder cannot be both a national ConUS transponder as well as a local spotbeam. I wonder if having both satellites active at the same time is causing some coding issue or something like that - for my receiver, it is as if it is checking one satellite, times out, then checks the second satellite for the signal strength.

No Problem! Glad I went and could help out but however I chickened out from the game tonight and I am back home. Didn't like the weather report I was seeing. Everyone in the hotel was talking about the severe storms. 75+ mph winds, golf ball size hail, and tornadoes done it in for me. You stay safe! I guess it isn't going to be very good and its suppose to hit between 3 and 6 PM. I gave away my tickets as I don't need damage to the vehicle plus with the weather like that not going and driving in Chicago that often it probably wouldn't be good driving when it is storming. I do think I made the wise choice.

I however am thinking about going somewhere over the weekend because this hot and humid air that were having will bring in relief after the cold front Thursday night and good weather is expected through the weekend. I don't know where I will head I am thinking State Park wise somewhere camping in a tent and brining my AC battery supply backup that works 36 hours on a single charge and can be charged in the vehicle and bringing the Wally, the antenna, and my Cloner Alliance ViewPro to use as a screen. Just to see what I can all get and to get away awhile. Where ever I go It will be out of market so I could get you their locals and Satellites and Spotbeams if you would like.

Just hoping we avoid the severe weather at my location tomorrow. It doesn't look good on that part but once it goes through excellent and more pleasant weather ahead.

And on what you said. Yes that could be an issue getting the locals activated that you are having problems with. 2 Transponders causing trouble one national and one spotbeam. Your receiver may not know how to handle it. Seems as if they likely will move those other sports channels to another satellite and/or spotbeam. More than likely the issue with my MLB Extra Innings as well. All these changes coming at once and they are trying to figure where to put everything and probably don't know where to put it all. I am sure it has the tech advanced people at DISH working overtime. Just wish they would hurry up and get it done.

Do you have an estimated date of completion by any chance?

RJ T.
From Illinois

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Today at 3:52 PM · posted in Ham Radio 2.0

Ham Radio FT6000 vs HT Real World Antenna Test

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zippyfrog

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Last reply Today at 3:27 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

ESPN News Packages?

Is ESPN News changing packages? I see on the lineup card that ESPN News is only available in Top 200 and above now. Is this accurate? Did anyone with Top 120 or 120+ lose ESPN News?

https://my.dish.com/cms-files/channelcards/2026/0512/Channel_Lineup.pdf

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Willh699

May 14, 2026

maybe but i still have it for now, most likely this will take effect in June.

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Cold Irons

May 17, 2026

...and on the "Science" channel you can learn all about ghosts & monsters.

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ClarkGable

May 18, 2026

I think ESPN News shows "The Ocho" on weekends. Slippery Stairs, Pop-A-Shot, Dodge Ball, Roof Ball, Wisconsin Auctioneers Championship, and even competitive Microsoft Excel spreadsheet races are among the offerings.

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Yespage

May 18, 2026

Cold Irons said:
...and on the "Science" channel you can learn all about ghosts & monsters.

Watch Lethal Weapon on Sundance!
America's dumbest and richest Housewives on Bravo! (funny, I never watched Bravo! WAAAAAAAY back in the day because I didn't like watching ballet. Then I never watched it because I didn't like trash television.)
See My Seven Ox Wives on The Learning Channel.
Watch The Fakumentury on Mermaids on The Science Channel.

It really is too bad this didn't happen to channels like TBN.
Up next on TBN at 8 PM, Speaking with the Lord Satan.

Cartoon Network and TCM are the only niche channels that survived the dumbening of niche channels. Of course, there are probably people that are old enough to drive, vote, drink (?) that were never alive when TLC was The Learning Channel.

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telstar_1

May 18, 2026

But even the cartoon ch. has been struggling of late

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zippyfrog

Today at 2:36 PM

Willh699 said:
maybe but i still have it for now, most likely this will take effect in June.

Curious if you still have ESPN News on 142 right now with AT120 or AT120+. As of today, the Dish website no longer lists it on the public website for that package.

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Willh699

Today at 3:27 PM

it's gone from that package,i no longer get the channel.

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