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vurbano

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Last reply Apr 14, 2005 · posted in Old VOOM News and Developments Archive

Voom subs duped? 1280x1080i???????

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?threadid=515000&perpage=20&pagenumber=192

Ken H at AVS says HD was 1280x1080i

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zombie

Apr 13, 2005

vurbano said:
I agree, and it should matter especially to Sean and Scott who put so much work into this forum.

That's fine, it just doenst matter to me it looked better than any other service i've had and that matters more than the reported pixels..

What does matter to me is that we were jerked around so much by the Dolan family...

67Yv8t

Apr 13, 2005

zombie said:
What does matter to me is that we were jerked around so much by the Dolan family...

All that jerkin, got you -- and every other voomer-- an extra month of service.

that jerkin gave us all something to discuss and debate.

All the jerkin, provided more insight and detail into the workings of big business.

That jerkin gave us an opportunity to analyze all the other DBS's working and comparing their real benefit and affect.

All that jerkin, really wasn't that painful unless you wanted to participate in it.

You could have checked out of the discussion at any time.

I'm sorry it is going, but I'm not sorry I experienced it, nor that I experienced it with you all here.

TheForce

Apr 13, 2005

Sean Mota said:
I had been without internet all mroning. But I was able to confirm that Ken H was wrong. He has his agenda but for HD Channels under contract that required resolution at 1920x1080i VOOM is doing those. The others are set to 1440x1080i. So Ken H was plainly wrong!!!!!!!

Never ceases to amaze me how so many place so much emphasis on "resolution", especially the higher end of the scale such as 1920 vs. 1280.

I wonder how many realize that 1920 can never be passed to your eyes in nearly all cases. Most monitors are the final resolution limiting device and will barely work beyond 1280, especially in a digital display where the native resolution is restricted. People using analog displays that can spec out at 1920 such as certain 9" CRT FPTV's don't operate them to reach that spec anyway because the image is too dim.

Anyway, I don't want to toot Ken's trumpet on this but I do respect his background for getting to the truth. I suspect that the truth is lost on the translations of all this. When someone says, we pass the resolution as it is received, doesn't mean that they specifically resample the content to a lower resolution or don't resample. It may mean that the resolution capability of a D5 master at 1920 is simply lost by the time all the video is processed by the system. You can shoot a video with softfx filtering on the lens as is done by many film camera DP's and the detail in the image is just not there. It effectively becomes reduced to little more than 1000 h lines in the 1920 capable master. I once asked Bob Ross of CBS about this and he agreed that the CBS network productions, being done on film were not only softened but the recordings on D5 contained no physical data in the higher resolution regions due to nothing there in the film itself.

I feel that until we, as consumers are using certified monitors that spec out to screen native resolution of 1920 pixels there is no cause for concern. While these monitors are now out and available for purchase, few people have them. In addition, we will begin to see more and more video production for HDTV being shot with HDCAMs (1440) and HDV(1280) and DVCProHD(1280) content which will record to tape no higher than 1280 anyway. All the bellyaching about a provider restricting resolution to 1280 on all programming is nothing more than a good move to conserve signal bandwidth from system noise. I'll complain when all program sources are nothing less than 1920 and post production is maintained at 1920 and distribution media is 1920 and we all use 1920 native displays. That will be way off in the future at this point because the industry is settling in on a mean figure of 1280 as the standard for HDTV horizontal resolution IN ALL CASES! Yes, JVC tried to redefine a format for lower than that but it didn't fly so with HDV and DVCPRO being the bottom of the industry practice at 1280, I think we all should feel happy if the system can maintain that. It is a good compromise. Arguing about the region between 1280 and 1920 is rediculous considering the entire infrastructure of our media.

PS - to some who don't understand the spec, when a monitor says it can receive the 1080ix1920 signal, it doesn't mean the display will resolve it. It just means that the monitor can scan and process that signal frequency in the circuitry.

niceprophet

Apr 13, 2005

I'm reminded of a scene from "Major League"

Fan #1: Too high..
Fan #2: What do you mean "too high"
Fan #1: The trajectory, it was... (interrupted)
Fan #3: Who the f@#k cares? It's gone.

vurbano

Apr 14, 2005

niceprophet said:
I'm reminded of a scene from "Major League"

Fan #1: Too high..
Fan #2: What do you mean "too high"
Fan #1: The trajectory, it was... (interrupted)
Fan #3: Who the f@#k cares? It's gone.

Thats funny. But hdlite isnt out of my ball park.

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply 16 minutes ago · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center

Tapatalk Removed

Due to security concerns and the fact that the Tapatalk Plugin for Xenforo is no longer being updated we have removed Tapatalk support from SatelliteGuys.

For those who were using it we recommend using our PWA App instead which is faster and does not have all the spam Tapatalk had. Below is a graphic showing how to add SatelliteGuys to your devices home screen. (While iOS is shown the process is mostly the same for Android.)

Thanks for your understanding.

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 9:28 AM

Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…

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dweber

Yesterday at 10:19 PM

Foxbat said:
Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…

What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.

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Peter Parker

Today at 12:27 AM

Foxbat said:
Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…

Hooray!

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Peter Parker

Today at 12:29 AM

dweber said:
What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.

Do you mean the safari browser?

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Foxbat

Today at 3:22 AM

dweber said:
What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.

Actually, PWA stands for "Progressive Web Application" and is basically just saving a site's homepage to your desktop where it appears as an "App" with the rest of your smartphone's Apps.

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Scott Greczkowski

16 minutes ago

A PWA is a custom version of SatelliteGuys which is optimized for mobile devices. While it may look like the website, its actually different so that only the files needed for mobile are sent, meaning its a much faster experience all around.

TapaTalk is essentially dead. It was written for PHP 5.4 and we are now running PHP 8.4. There have been a LOT of PHP security updates since then and since Tapatalk for Xenforo has not been updated in a long long time it is not the safest idea to keep running it.

In addition those trying to view the site on their mobile devices using a browser were getting spammed on the top of the screen for people to install TapaTalk, this ad in some cases would take up 20% of the users screen. We could get rid of that ad but we would have to pay $20 a month to get rid of it.

In addition TapaTalk could and was inserting their own ads on SatelliteGuys in the app which only benefitted them, SatelliteGuys was not paid for those ads they were displaying on our site. Again we could pay to get rid of those ads.

And here was the cost of the Premium Tier.

Now to make matters worse Tapatalk recently announced that they are going to start charging users of the app 99 cents a month to continue using it.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/tapatalksupport/our-mobile-app-is-transitioning-to-a-paid-model-t48360.html#p261675

So soon you would be paying them each month to access SatelliteGuys via their app, again all the money going to them... and you would still see all their ads too.

Tapatalk was a great program which we run for many many years, and for a long time we DID pay for the premium tier. But now with such a small offset using it (My numbers show a total of 6 members) it wasn't work paying for any longer.

In addition Tapatalk was sold to a different owner who made lots of promises of improvements and updates but then that owner has been really radio silent since, instead they have been letting TapaTalk rot on the vine.

If you visit their support forum at https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/tapatalksupport/ you will see there is not much going on, in fact most of the support questions posted there go unanswered.

Please give the PWA a try, I was a die hard Tapatalk user myself but now only use the PWA on devices. It is a much better all around experience, with no bloatware or additional ads based on your user membership level.

I don't have an android phone so I could not make a graphic showing you how to add SatelliteGuys PWA to your phones apps or home screen. But here is a site that explains how to do it on all kinds of devices. How to Install a PWA on iOS, Android, Windows & Mac [2025 Guide]

The above link also explains PWA's better as well.

If Tapatalk were to update their plugins so we know we are more secure and up to date and allow us to remove the "Smart Banner" without having to pay $20 a month, we would consider adding it back. I don't even care about their ads, as if a user wants to use their app and is willing to sit through their ads in order to use that app then I am ok with it.

But hopefully that explains better why it was removed. It was not done to cut anyone off from the site.

Please give the PWA a try.

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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dfergie

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Last reply 36 minutes ago · posted in The Sports Section

Auto Racing 2026

New thread or keep this one?

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Sunday at 8:20 PM

Awesome pictures, Yespage! Thanks!

I caught the end of the four hour race on YouTube so I wasn't "spoiled", but got to see the exciting last lap action in the TCR division!

Yespage

Sunday at 8:30 PM

Foxbat said:
Awesome pictures, Yespage! Thanks!

I caught the end of the four hour race on YouTube so I wasn't "spoiled", but got to see the exciting last lap action in the TCR division!

I heard on the radio, after the final pitstop, Turner Motorsport were resigned to second place. 'You're in second. Don't worry about it. First is McLaren, we aren't catching them.'

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Tuesday at 7:48 AM

Caught up to the 500... err... k in St. Louis. What a race! Andretti Motorsport were doing very well with Ericsson and Kirkwood, meanwhile Power was moving up the grid. Veekay started cautiously. He was working the tires just right, becoming more lethal later in the stint. Rasmussen was racing likewise, not nearly as insane as he has in the past. Palou was leading the race, in a shocker to all. Caio Collet was having a wonderful ride, making Ferucci potentially sweat a bit. Rain came, rain went, rain came, rain went. Generally mild sprinkles, but enough to pause racing on an oval.

Palou would kind of send Siegel into the wall. Siegel really didn't do much wrong. As he noted, you have to turn at some point. Palou had acres of room below and Siegel might have had his ticket out of Indycar stamped. Dixon was doing the fuel thing and got busted twice by yellows, not pitting before the flag came out. Then the most critical happened... Palou ran out of gas on pit lane, effectively giving Newgarden the race lead and win. Newgarden had a very early pit, so he was able to slide in, get service and go. Meanwhile, everyone else was confused and stuck behind Palou for a bit. Once people figured what was happening, Newgarden had a major advantage of several seconds. Newgarden wouldn't look back and when it went green again, he'd hold the lead for the win.

Massive credit to Juncos Hollinger who bested Penske in getting Veekay out before Malukas in a transition that was oddly bizarre. I haven't had time to check, but I'm wondering if Veekay was about to run out of fuel or cut a tire. He was charging late in a stint, got up to fifth, and then tailed back for a few laps to 10th or 11th. It looked like it was over. Went into the pits, and after the pitting sequence was over, Veekay was well inside the top ten again. It was weird. And he charged, getting up to fourth. He made a late move on Rasmussen, but Rasmussen held his position with some great driving. In fact, there was a ton of incredible racing passing, not passing all race long. Veekay would finish 4th. A podium would have been awesome, but it is a great outcome for a guy who hopefully will get a break with a big team. We saw what Veekay could do with a Honda last season with fuel save, imagine replacing Simpson on Ganassi and having speed to go with fuel saving. His 6th at Indy and 4th at St. Louis get him up to 13th in the points standings and only 5 points outside of the top 10.

Ericsson finished second, resigned to finishing behind the current best in the world guy on a short oval. Rasmussen got the final step on the podium, a nice rebound to what has been an otherwise bad year for him, and a good reward to ECR who just extended his contract.

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They raced USAC cars at Daytona once. Once! People died. Aj Foyt said 'f this', and left after the first go around. AJ freaking Foyt thought it was crazy! And cars weren't nearly as fast as they are now.

I think they tried Talladega once too.

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Peter Parker

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Last reply Today at 6:53 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Brave Browser for Androud

I have had good experiences with Brave but lately I am frustrated with it.

Now when I launch the app it shows a box at the bottom asking if I want to go back to the last opened page. It is in conveniently located and I would prefer to eliminate it.

Does anyone know how to do this?

Please let's not sidetrack the discussion into an exploration of why I don't care for it or a lecture about all the wonderful aspects of the feature. I just do not care for it.

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b4pjoe

Yesterday at 7:50 PM

I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.

Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.

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Peter Parker

Yesterday at 9:27 PM

b4pjoe said:
I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.

Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.

View attachment 191721

Thank you for trying to help. However thrse choices do not appear in Android. There is a setting for "New Tab Pages" that is similar but does not include your choice. I have tried all of the existing entries with no success

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Juan

Today at 6:53 AM

Something like this maybe

Option 2: Set a custom Home button URL

Click the menu icon in the top-right corner and select Settings.
Click on Appearance in the left sidebar.
Toggle on the Show home button switch.
Under the home button settings, select the option to Enter custom web address and type in your preferred website. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

BlackHitachi

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Last reply Today at 6:26 AM · posted in Movie Talk

Last & Next Movie Watched

Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma

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osu1991

Saturday at 9:48 PM

Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.

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dfergie

Sunday at 8:42 AM

osu1991 said:
Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.

There are some really good movies on youtube.
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...

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harshness

Tuesday at 9:58 AM

dfergie said:
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...

These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.

dfergie

Tuesday at 10:07 AM

harshness said:
These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.

I went with my 4k disc after checking out that version.

osu1991

Yesterday at 9:56 PM

View: https://youtu.be/I68627xyDPA?is=gUZB0Yv_08pE0DR3

Tonight revisiting one of my favorites. Ranks up there with Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark and Hunt For Red October.

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dfergie

Yesterday at 10:45 PM

Watching Monterey Pop, been awhile, had the DVD, but probably lost in the fire 10.5 years ago. HBOmax

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scott520

Today at 3:59 AM · posted in FTA Manuals Section

GI cu2700r receiver

Looking for a manual. Want to do some radio astronomy with it. Realize it's old but, since it's not for tv use don't need any decoders, just the RF section.

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N5XZS

Last reply Today at 1:35 AM · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info

New low power station with CP has been granted. "Albuquerque "

New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.

Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.

It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.

This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.

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Mr Tony

Yesterday at 12:28 PM

N5XZS said:
This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time

probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations

Get After It Media

www.getafteritmedia.com

Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 4:35 PM

Mr Tony said:
probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations

Get After It Media

www.getafteritmedia.com

Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc

We already have those diginets here.

N5XZS

Yesterday at 4:51 PM

Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets on like the Rev'n, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 4:54 PM

N5XZS said:
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets like Revn, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station.

I watch MovieSphere Gold channel a lot. Many recent movies on that digitnet

N5XZS

Yesterday at 4:59 PM

Yes that's a good channel MovieSphere, only thing is the missing CC on it.