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Mike88

Last reply Mar 15, 2014 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Why no OTA when there is a signal loss?

I have the 722K with the OTA module. Last night 2 programs stopped recording at 11:40pm due to a signal loss, 1 OTA & 1 Satellite. Also could not access the guide & therefore did not have access to OTA content. However I could watch my recordings. It was this way for about 2 hours so checked the forum but did not see mention of any outages. I did a unplug/replug boot a couple times but to no avail. I called Dish & the rep said there had been no reporting of signal losses. It was snowing but I never had a loss like this all winter.

This morning I checked & everything is working. The History for the 2 stopped programs both said the DVR was rebooted at 4:43am. That means the signal loss lasted for 5 hours. With all the snow we've had this winter I have not experienced such a loss. The only thing I can think of is the snow was very wet which probably blocked the signal more than usual.

But why would the OTA signal not be available? And why would the Guide disappear? It doesn't update until 5:00am. If it was there at noon I would think it would be there at midnight.

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KAB

Mar 13, 2014

OK, so, do you or do you not have (and pay for) dish service. 'Cause according to Dish you don't. And that's one of the things they are usually not wrong about.

Bobby

Mar 13, 2014

KAB said:
OK, so, do you or do you not have (and pay for) dish service. 'Cause according to Dish you don't. And that's one of the things they are usually not wrong about.

I think what they were telling him was that the Dish signal wasn't present to the receiver so that is why he had no OTA. I think it is pretty obvious that he has Dish service as a subscriber...

KAB

Mar 13, 2014

Bobby said:
I think what they were telling him was that the Dish signal wasn't present to the receiver so that is why he had no OTA. I think it is pretty obvious that he has Dish service as a subscriber...

Well, that wasn't clear to me...seemed to be some gray areas as written.

Tampa8

Mar 13, 2014

Dish tech is wrong. You do not lose the guide if you lose the signal, it isn't the same as not subscribing unless it reboots while there is no signal . That would mean anytime there is snow on the DISH and the signal was lost you would lose the guide you would be forced to reboot. That isn't the case, simply clear the snow and all is back to normal.

Mike88

Mar 13, 2014

KAB said:
OK, so, do you or do you not have (and pay for) dish service. 'Cause according to Dish you don't. And that's one of the things they are usually not wrong about.

I do have Dish service. They (Dish) were saying because of the snow (possibly) the DVR was not receiving their service, therefore no Guide.

Mike88

Mar 13, 2014

Tampa8 said:
Dish tech is wrong. You do not lose the guide if you lose the signal, it isn't the same as not subscribing unless it reboots while there is no signal . That would mean anytime there is snow on the DISH and the signal was lost you would lose the guide you would be forced to reboot. That isn't the case, simply clear the snow and all is back to normal.

Once before I had a long period of signal loss at night because of snow on the Dish. It finally melted but was not until about 11am the following morning, which means at least some sunlight was melting the snow/ice.

This time I didn't think it had been snowing for that long, but it probably was the wettest & heaviest snow we've had all season. The History stated the DVR rebooted at 4:43am which is about when the snowfall stopped. IOW the signal was blocked by wet snow in the atmosphere. If it was due to a build up on the dish I don't think it would have melted off at 4:43am because it was still cold & no sunlight at that hour. There might have been some snow on the dish but obviously not enough by itself to block the signal.

When I tried to reboot I got the usual message it would take about 5 minutes to acquire a signal. But that message only lasted about a minute, then I got the signal loss message.

However the History shows it rebooted at 4:43am, which means the DVR automatically rebooted when it acquired a signal.

I don't know how often the system tries to auto reboot. But could the DVR have tried to automatically reboot sometime between when the signal was lost and when I started to look at it? If so, could the attempted auto reboot have wiped out the guide data the same as if I attempted to reboot? That might explain why there was no guide when I looked.

Tampa8

Mar 15, 2014

Certainly speculation, but yes it's possible the receiver rebooted on it's own early on after the signal loss.

It is also possible the opposite of melting happened. If it was cold enough just enough moisture may have been eliminated from the snow on the Dish, and/or some may have fallen off. The opposite has happened numerous times for me, no signal loss, no more snow falling, and as the day warmed up signal loss because the snow gained moisture.

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 44 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

You can't even trust the cost per ounce info in grocery stores anymore

I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

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Jimbo

Today at 9:23 AM

dishstaller said:
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

Walmart isn't the only one ...

Juan

Today at 11:17 AM

dishstaller said:
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...the product label only shows the weight of the product...I am sure if you brought your own plastic baggies to bring the product home you could get the cheaper price

harshness

Today at 11:18 AM

Jimbo said:
Walmart isn't the only one ...

I've been seeing this more and more on Amazon. Sometimes it seems there is no way they could have arrived at the number.

What rankles me even more is Costco changing units of measure between similar products, so you have to convert them to compare prices.

dishstaller

44 minutes ago

Juan said:
When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...

Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.

Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply 49 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

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Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

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Today at 9:36 AM

Love Every Little Thing About You - Gallery

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Today at 10:40 AM

Where's My Thing? - Rush

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Today at 11:08 AM

I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing - Aerosmith

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Today at 11:20 AM

Good Golly, Miss Molly - Little Richard

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dishstaller

49 minutes ago

Little Miss Dangerous - Ted Nugent

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Today at 11:26 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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harshness

Sunday at 11:30 AM

I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

harshness

Yesterday at 5:32 PM

harshness said:
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Foxbat

Yesterday at 8:39 PM

harshness said:
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.

Bobby

Yesterday at 9:05 PM

Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.

Winter blend is cheaper than Summer blend.

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Bobby

Today at 11:21 AM

Regular$5.839
Premium$6.299
Diesel$7.999
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

harshness

Today at 11:26 AM

Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price?

Winter blend is reportedly 10-30 cents cheaper, but I would point out that prices have dropped as much as 62 cents at RP.

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reubenray

Today at 11:19 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish vs Streaming Apps?

Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.

Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.

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Former member 209992

Last reply Today at 11:18 AM · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center

Site is slooooow

For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.

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Scott Greczkowski

Saturday at 3:21 PM

Ok checked it out and for some reason the web server (NGINX) tried starting before the DNS resolver fully loaded. This is why it worked when I rebooted the machine.

Thanks to ChatGPT it had me change the NGINX config to prevent this from happening again.

With that said I can't prevent the ISP from doing emergency upgrades which was the cause of all of this.

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navychop

Saturday at 3:39 PM

Nature will develop better idiots.

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TRG

Saturday at 4:19 PM

navychop said:
Nature will develop better idiots.

God help us.

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Scott Greczkowski

Monday at 11:15 AM

I guess this is what the downtime was about.

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Scott Greczkowski

Today at 11:18 AM

Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)

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Today at 10:52 AM · posted in BooredAtWork.COM

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Gary Toma

Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 10:40 AM · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/14/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:

National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)

Additional tabs provide:

OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders

Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions

DIRECTV_TPN_Map_261014.xlsx 1,874 KB

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KyL416

Yesterday at 2:37 PM

WCWW/25 CW South Bend and WBKP/5 CW Marquette are now testing on the stream server. These are both already available on satellite.

Now live in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS (663-1 is likely being reserved for an overflow feed of Detroit Sportsnet, if there's a 2027 MLB season)
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS

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doctor J

Today at 7:22 AM

DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 21 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 21 2026 vs Oct 14 2026:

No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

1 Previously unused Transponder with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 15 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 16

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K	4
HD	264	2	1449
SD mpeg4	145		194
SD mpeg2	433
RB
Audio	89
Push	26
Slate	19		1

TEST Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K
HD			1
SD mpeg4
SD mpeg2
RB
Engr Work	38	-2

The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files

NBA Updates
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters

doctor J

Today at 7:23 AM

weekly Analysis for 10/21/2026:

Weekly_Analysis_261021.xlsx 16 KB

KyL416

Today at 7:25 AM

HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps

Mr Tony

Today at 10:40 AM

KyL416 said:
HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps

Wait…..
So even though DAZN keeps touting 'only way to see games' if you are a subscriber to Choice (like my stepdad) if an agreement is reached he can see the Wolfies on 668?
I know the Wild are in dispute and a slate is on 668-1.

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Marques Brownlee

Today at 10:32 AM · posted in Marques Brownlee