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Forget 1Gbps – the cable industry says you don’t even need 25Mbps

Forget 1Gbps – the cable industry says you don't even need 25Mbps
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/forget-1gbps-cable-industry-says-don-t-even-132031048.html

Different article,same theme as the ATT/Verizon one(to justify keeping DSL slow),only this time courtesy of your local cable ISP
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EarDemon
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This is going to be an unpopular opinion, but no, at this point in time, almost no one needs a 1Gb connection. Especially the average home user.

At work, I manage approximately 125 workstations, plus 10 servers and a host of other devices on a 10Mb symmetrical dedicated fiber circuit provided by Time Warner Cable. Our Exchange, FTP, VPN and SSL VPN all are hosted on this connection, plus all of our users. A lot of our network traffic is internal, but we do communicate with our corporate headquarter in Europe via a site to site VPN. A lot of files transferred are larger DWG, DXF, IPT and IAM files. Plus we have a few users who stream Pandora or Spotify and I'll occasionally stream some How To videos on YouTube. Our network has never been brought to it's knees in the few years I've been here, and very rarely do I hear any complaints about speed.

While we don't have a half a dozen instances of streaming hi def Netflix going, we do have a lot of people and devices using the connection simultaneously thoughout the business day, and in the early morning hours when our European counterparts are on our network when they start their day.

TWC recently gave residential users another overprovisioned bump in speed. My 50 x 5 connection, is now more like 62 x 6, and I have trouble maxing that out. When 320Mb+ becomes available here I will be beside myself.
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EarDemon said:
This is going to be an unpopular opinion, but no, at this point in time, almost no one needs a 1Gb connection. Especially the average home user.

At work, I manage approximately 125 workstations, plus 10 servers and a host of other devices on a 10Mb symmetrical dedicated fiber circuit provided by Time Warner Cable. Our Exchange, FTP, VPN and SSL VPN all are hosted on this connection, plus all of our users. A lot of our network traffic is internal, but we do communicate with our corporate headquarter in Europe via a site to site VPN. A lot of files transferred are larger DWG, DXF, IPT and IAM files. Plus we have a few users who stream Pandora or Spotify and I'll occasionally stream some How To videos on YouTube. Our network has never been brought to it's knees in the few years I've been here, and very rarely do I hear any complaints about speed.

While we don't have a half a dozen instances of streaming hi def Netflix going, we do have a lot of people and devices using the connection simultaneously thoughout the business day, and in the early morning hours when our European counterparts are on our network when they start their day.

TWC recently gave residential users another overprovisioned bump in speed. My 50 x 5 connection, is now more like 62 x 6, and I have trouble maxing that out. When 320Mb+ becomes available here I will be beside myself.
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I had a 10x10 fiber from Comcast at the office. The reason why it works so well is because you have a big pipe such as a fire hydrant but with a small faucet on the end.

Where as if you take a 10x10 DSL connection and it's like being on the end of a 100 foot garden hose.

I couldn't afford the $1040 per month and ended up going to a 150x25 cable modem connection for $199

I miss the fiber, but not the price.
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I just read that Comcast is offering 2 Gbps to residential users in lucky markets for "only" $299/mo. After a $1,000 installation and 6-8 weeks, too!

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/comcast-fiber-internet,29579.html

Time to trade-in that Netgear router for the Cisco 10 Gb Layer 3 switch.
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I don't NEED more than the 60Mbps connection I currently have but I'll take all the bandwidth I can get. I regularly download 50GB (or more) video games and it can take hours on my current connection. That is the fastest I can get for now but if my township comes through with their proposed 1Gbps plan I wouldn't hesitate to switch.

I realize this is a first world problem but I would gladly take faster internet speeds.
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Claude Greiner said:
I had a 10x10 fiber from Comcast at the office. The reason why it works so well is because you have a big pipe such as a fire hydrant but with a small faucet on the end.

Where as if you take a 10x10 DSL connection and it's like being on the end of a 100 foot garden hose.

I couldn't afford the $1040 per month and ended up going to a 150x25 cable modem connection for $199

I miss the fiber, but not the price.
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Yeah it's expensive, we were paying $625 for 5Mb symmetrical w/4 static IPs. That's insane. I almost fell over when I first saw that. Earlier this year we added voice and things became much more reasonable.

I don't have the exact numbers since I was only involved in the preliminary process with getting quotes, not the contract negotiations but the last versions of the quotes I received from TWCBC made me a little happier. When we switched our phone service over from a PRI with Verizon to a PRI from TWC and upgraded to 10Mb internet. With the bundling of data and voice for 10 Mb fiber with 4 static IPs and PRI over fiber with I think 350 DIDs, 5 toll free numbers and 10,000 international long distance minutes the price came to $1250 total for both services. With the bundled price, the line item price for the internet dropped to around $375. Twice the speed for about half the cost.

We also have a 7 x 1 business class DOCSIS connection for guest/visitor access and testing purposes. Along with 2 DOCSIS powered phone lines for our alarm panel. Between the two fiber services and the two copper services we pay roughly $1500 bucks a month to TWC, which is slightly less than what our old Verizon PRI cost alone.
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I just read that Comcast is offering 2 Gbps to residential users in lucky markets for "only" $299/mo. After a $1,000 installation and 6-8 weeks, too!

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/comcast-fiber-internet,29579.html

Time to trade-in that Netgear router for the Cisco 10 Gb Layer 3 switch.
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Comcast is an industry leader and innovator but constantly gets crap from morons in the comment sections of stories on the internet and on internet forums.

Verizon, a company people seem to love and people are begging for their Fios service is constantly praised.

Comcast 2Gb $300, Verizon 500Mb $275. $25 more, 4 times the speed. But Comcast will always be the bad guy, because they're Comcast.
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It's been a constant battle with Verizon to get them to maintain the lines here for DSL. We were up to 3.3Mbps over the winter but are down to 1.5Mbps now. We'd be happy to get only 25Mbps. :rolleyes:
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I would not sign up with Comcast in our area. One of the reasons I signed up for Dish was due to the three strikes rule. They were told that they did not need to do anything inside our house as we were moving in right after the previous owner had left. Not only did they come in to replace the RG6 I was using to hook up my TV, but they damaged the top of the cabinet my Father-in-Law had made for us. It didn't take long for the next two strikes and by June of 1996 we had cut the cable.

Unfortunately, our choices for Broadband are Comcast, AT&T U-verse, and cellular. I'm with U-verse currently for phone and Internet.
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Man falls to his death on roller coaster at 6 Flags in GA

Can't help but wonder if a worker overlooked checking the harness. I rarely ride a roller coaster anymore but when I do I check the harness myself pretty aggressively.
Can't imagine what the son is going through.

www.dailymail.com

Dad levitated and bled then fell to his death from coaster

Eyewitnesses have shared fresh details of the horrific accident that happened at Six Flags Over Georgia on Monday afternoon.
www.dailymail.com www.dailymail.com
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Could B&M’s Patent on the “Clamshell” Ride Restraint Design Offer Clues as to What Happened on Goliath at Six Flags Over Georgia?

Incredibly sad news out of Six Flags Over Georgia as it’s being reported one man was killed after being ejected from Goliath, the B&M hyper coaster. Many news outlets have posted pictures of pe…
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Could B&M’s Patent on the “Clamshell” Ride Restraint Design Offer Clues as to What Happened on Goliath at Six Flags Over Georgia?

Incredibly sad news out of Six Flags Over Georgia as it’s being reported one man was killed after being ejected from Goliath, the B&M hyper coaster. Many news outlets have posted pictures of pe…
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Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.
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Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.
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It makes sense, however, I would want more types of restraints, so if one doesn't work, the other does ... the restraints coming over the shoulder I would have expected ... with a Seat belt as last resort.

Fwiw, I inquired with what they use on Coasters at Cedar Point, various Coasters, different restraints according to what the car and track requires ...

NONE of the Coasters at CP use THAT particular system :)
I'm glad to see ...
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with a Seat belt as last resort.
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According to the article, when you see a seat belt on a ride like this, it is basically used as a way of making sure the rider isn't too large/fat to safely ride the ride.
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According to the article, when you see a seat belt on a ride like this, it is basically used as a way of making sure the rider isn't too large/fat to safely ride the ride.
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Well, the over the shoulder support is better, but would require reconfiguring the cars.
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Heres an article from the Akron Beacon ... seeing Six Flags has bought Cedar Point and Kings Island, they are included ...
I said earlier that Cedar Point doesn't use this type of seat restraint ... well, it does use it, But the difference is, the ones up here ALSO have the Over the shoulder restraint as well ... like I was suggesting that they should have used with the Goliath.

One of the new(er) one at Cedar point the Gate Keeper, uses the Clam shell .. I have rode it many times and have Mostly felt secure, that ride will stop you part way on the ride and you just hang, till the ride is ready to continue ... I typically ride the Front Car ... when its getting ready, you ARE hanging, in the car, looking down .... it would require 2 separate restraint systems to unlock at the same time to possibly get out of it.

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UPDATE: Six Flags is adding seatbelts to all 9 rollercoasters

www.dailymail.com

Six Flags adds important safety feature after teacher died

Hassan Kariem, 42, was killed at the theme park in Austell earlier this month, after he was thrown from his seat on the Goliath rollercoaster. Four others were injured.
www.dailymail.com www.dailymail.com
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UPDATE: Six Flags is adding seatbelts to all 9 rollercoasters

www.dailymail.com

Six Flags adds important safety feature after teacher died

Hassan Kariem, 42, was killed at the theme park in Austell earlier this month, after he was thrown from his seat on the Goliath rollercoaster. Four others were injured.
www.dailymail.com www.dailymail.com
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It DOES kinda seem like a simple safety feature.
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NEED SUGGESTIONS FOR NEW FTA BOX

IS Amiko MIRA 3 any good ???
Can you recommend the best to cover all bases. NO BEEPS on certain channels 101w (NEWSMAX ,NEWS NATION), a clock that keeps working STEADY for timed recording ,solid unit with good lifespan. My Amiko died AND my Linkbox has NO Favorites Button and BEEPS on many channels. Picking up 105 west with a NEW SHED IN THE Way with 6 foot Cband ..95 percent quality ...unbelievable.
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techristian said:
IS Amiko MIRA 3 any good ???
Can you recommend the best to cover all bases. NO BEEPS on certain channels 101w (NEWSMAX ,NEWS NATION), a clock that keeps working STEADY for timed recording ,solid unit with good lifespan. My Amiko died AND my Linkbox has NO Favorites Button and BEEPS on many channels. Picking up 105 west with a NEW SHED IN THE Way with 6 foot Cband ..95 percent quality ...unbelievable.
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Have you tried a new power brick on your Amiko? It's slim pickings out there anymore. The FTA market in the US has pretty much been abandoned.

This would likely be your best bet, and Rick is a good seller. I've never had any issues with him:

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Have you tried a new power brick on your Amiko? It's slim pickings out there anymore. The FTA market in the US has pretty much been abandoned.

This would likely be your best bet, and Rick is a good seller. I've never had any issues with him:

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Have you tried a new power brick on your Amiko?

YOU WERE RIGHT. IT IS WORKING NOW WITH 2X AMPS !!

DAN
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What supplements have you found that really helped your overall health

Didn't see a thread like this so I figured why not start one. This is about natural supplements. If you aren't into supplements, fine, but please let those of us who do want to discuss this discuss it.

The first one I wanted to mention has been a real life changer. I'm 62 and still do all of my own install work at my business....also do all the yard work at the house. A few years ago I started noticing that I was losing my range of movement, it was even getting hard to bend over and lace up my boots. Almost got stuck in an attic because I couldn't get turned around once the work was done. Didn't think much of it and figured with age comes stiffness that was only going to get worse as time went on.
It was then that I stumbled across a video which was discussing rotator cuff tears and why they were to prevalent these days. Turns out, the culprit is a simple deficiency in MANGANESE which is key in keeping your tendons flexible. Most anti-biotics strip your body of any manganese it might have had which is why certain anti-biotics, especially those in the Cipro family. I actually knew a man who had two tendons tear while on that stuff.
Went to Amazon and ordered some manganese. Now it took a while, it wasn't instant, but gradually I have regained all of my flexibility. I can bend over and touch my toes while standing with no pain and putting on my boots is no longer a chore.
Pretty cheap too. The bottle I ordered was a 200 ct for under $13. They said to take double the normal dose for the first month because most people are severely lacking, then go to one a day.
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Not sure if this would qualify as a supplement but here goes: When I meet someone who is in their 90s and doing very well healthwise I always ask what they attribute their longevity to. Out of all the people I questioned, there was only ONE thing that they ALL did. They all drank some apple cider vinegar daily....usually before bed. You can water it down all you want. Who knows why, but I do it. You want to buy the organic type with the mother.
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dishstaller said:
Didn't see a thread like this so I figured why not start one. This is about natural supplements. If you aren't into supplements, fine, but please let those of us who do want to discuss this discuss it.

The first one I wanted to mention has been a real life changer. I'm 62 and still do all of my own install work at my business....also do all the yard work at the house. A few years ago I started noticing that I was losing my range of movement, it was even getting hard to bend over and lace up my boots. Almost got stuck in an attic because I couldn't get turned around once the work was done. Didn't think much of it and figured with age comes stiffness that was only going to get worse as time went on.
It was then that I stumbled across a video which was discussing rotator cuff tears and why they were to prevalent these days. Turns out, the culprit is a simple deficiency in MANGANESE which is key in keeping your tendons flexible. Most anti-biotics strip your body of any manganese it might have had which is why certain anti-biotics, especially those in the Cipro family. I actually knew a man who had two tendons tear while on that stuff.
Went to Amazon and ordered some manganese. Now it took a while, it wasn't instant, but gradually I have regained all of my flexibility. I can bend over and touch my toes while standing with no pain and putting on my boots is no longer a chore.
Pretty cheap too. The bottle I ordered was a 200 ct for under $13. They said to take double the normal dose for the first month because most people are severely lacking, then go to one a day.
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Chia Seeds
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Chia Seeds
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Kinda the whole idea is to mention something and explain WHY it is something we might want to add to our daily routine.
This is what I got from google. Looks like I'm going to be adding them, thanks

Key Health Benefits
    • Digestive Health: One ounce (28 grams) of chia seeds provides nearly 10 grams of fiber, which promotes regular bowel movements, feeds beneficial gut bacteria, and helps prevent constipation. [1, 2]
    • Heart and Cardiovascular Support: Rich in alpha-linolenic acid (ALA)—an essential plant-based omega-3 fatty acid—chia seeds can help lower blood pressure, reduce triglycerides, and improve cholesterol profiles. [1, 2, 3]
    • Blood Sugar Regulation: The combination of soluble fiber and protein slows down carbohydrate digestion, preventing sharp blood sugar spikes after meals. [1, 2]
    • Weight Management: When soaked in liquid, chia seeds absorb up to 10 to 12 times their weight in water. The resulting gel expands in the stomach, increasing feelings of fullness and curbing appetite. [1, 2, 3]
    • Bone Strength: They contain high levels of calcium, magnesium, and phosphorus, which are vital for maintaining bone density. [1, 2, 3]
    • Antioxidant Protection: Compounds like chlorogenic acid and caffeic acid help fight cellular damage from free radicals and reduce chronic inflammation. [1, 2, 3]
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Larry Ellison’s Debt-Fueled Media Bet: Could It Spark a Crash? #shorts

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5-kh3ZIy2yc


Direct YouTube Link - Larry Ellison's Debt-Fueled Media Bet: Could It Spark a Crash? #shorts
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We're less than 4 weeks away from Voyager 1 reaching a distance of one light day from Earth

I've always been super interested in things space related so this is a pretty cool event coming up. Nov 18, 2026 early in the morning, Voyager 1 will reach the distance of one full light day from Earth. Took almost 50 yrs. I was 13 when it launched.


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So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…
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So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…
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So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…
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Thanks for that info. I will mark it on my calendar! 🤣
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Will the Jupiter 2 make it in time ....
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Foxbat said:
So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…
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Isn't that insane!!!
To reach the nearest galaxy to ours, at its present speed, will take another 44 billion years.
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Isn't that insane!!!
To reach the nearest galaxy to ours, at its present speed, will take another 44 billion years.
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Turn the Lights out when you get there.
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Just In Time - Tony Bennett
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Just Get Through This Night - Styx
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You can't even trust the cost per ounce info in grocery stores anymore

I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


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dishstaller said:
Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.
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You are paying for the whole thing
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You are paying for the whole thing
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Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
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Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
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But a box can weigh more than an ounce..maybe 2...a can might weigh 5 ounces..a bag...not much
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Well, according to the price per ounce on that first bag of coffee he mentions, that would mean the bag weighed over 6 ounces. That bag does NOT weigh 6 ounces. According to Google, an empty bag weighs half an ounce.
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Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
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I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.
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I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.
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I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.
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I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.
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Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz
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dishstaller said:
Well, according to the price per ounce on that first bag of coffee he mentions, that would mean the bag weighed over 6 ounces. That bag does NOT weigh 6 ounces. According to Google, an empty bag weighs half an ounce.
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You need to weigh the actual bag...a deli bag weighs less than that but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...an empty tin can has some weight
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Juan said:
You need to weigh the actual bag...a deli bag weighs less than that but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...an empty tin can has some weight
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Products sold by the ounce, pound, etc, should always be priced for the product only. Only the shipping weight should include the packaging.
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NYDutch said:
Products sold by the ounce, pound, etc, should always be priced for the product only.
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Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner. ;)

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).
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Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner. ;)

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).
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I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only
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The larger discrepancies are likely from a data or sync issue. Digital tags don't cause the error, but they can spread one bad entry across a whole store or region instantly. The small cent differences are probably just rounding in the weight, the price data, or both.
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Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz
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Is it real Ice-cream?
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Is it real Ice-cream?
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Is it Real Ice cream ???
Depends on what your talking about.
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Is it Real Ice cream ???
Depends on what your talking about.
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Most don't have any milk in them
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I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only
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I believe that per federal law the "net weight" of the given commodity, without regard to its packaging or the particular weight of that, must be clearly stated by the producer on the packaging. As in "Net wt. 2 lbs., 7 oz." So now the stores themselves commonly state a $ "per oz." or "per count" figure at the shelf whereas they never used to, supposedly to help people to comparison shop and/or to demonstrate that they are offering good prices. I would make the first assumption that they are simply taking the product label net weight and translating from that, as that would seem both the most logical as well as the easiest. If they're otherwise plopping the product onto a scale to arrive at a stated unit cost, then obviously that adds time & effort.

The ultimate question would be, if they are doing that, what really would it gain them? They'd get to show a very slightly lower unit price, but then presumably the competition between brands would still be even. I don't see how it can really much matter, but on principle there should be rules in this regard.
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I believe that per federal law the "net weight" of the given commodity, without regard to its packaging or the particular weight of that, must be clearly stated by the producer on the packaging. As in "Net wt. 2 lbs., 7 oz." So now the stores themselves commonly state a $ "per oz." or "per count" figure at the shelf whereas they never used to, supposedly to help people to comparison shop and/or to demonstrate that they are offering good prices. I would make the first assumption that they are simply taking the product label net weight and translating from that, as that would seem both the most logical as well as the easiest. If they're otherwise plopping the product onto a scale to arrive at a stated unit cost, then obviously that adds time & effort.

The ultimate question would be, if they are doing that, what really would it gain them? They'd get to show a very slightly lower unit price, but then presumably the competition between brands would still be even. I don't see how it can really much matter, but on principle there should be rules in this regard.
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It's probably just a programming error in the price labeling computer
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I buy my coffee beans from a local small batch roaster. The scale they use has a large stainless steel bowl on top. They scoop the beans from large mylar bags containing the roast of your choice. After weighing the coffee the beans are poured into a bag or ground, your choice. I have a grinder and prefer grinding right before I brew.
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Most don't have any milk in them
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Ice cream must meet the follow standards:

Contain at least 10% milkfat (from real dairy/cream).
Weigh at least 4.5 pounds per gallon.
Contain at least 1.6 pounds of total solids per gallon and at least 20% total milk solids.
Contain no more than 100% overrun (the amount of air whipped into the mixture).

Products that don't meet those standards must still contain some milkfat and milk solids to be labeled a "frozen dairy treat".
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The larger discrepancies are likely from a data or sync issue. Digital tags don't cause the error, but they can spread one bad entry across a whole store or region instantly. The small cent differences are probably just rounding in the weight, the price data, or both.
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It's simple math. You take the price and divide by the number of ounces and come up with the price per ounce. I find it hard to believe that Walmart's computers can't carry out simple division.
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It's simple math. You take the price and divide by the number of ounces and come up with the price per ounce. I find it hard to believe that Walmart's computers can't carry out simple division.
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The division isn't the problem, the inputs are. On the Starbucks pods, $9.22 @ $3.35/oz works out to 2.75 oz, but the box is 1.94 oz. So either the system has the wrong weight on file, or the unit price is left over from an older price of about $6.50 that never got updated. Garbage in, garbage out. Walmart's had unit-pricing data problems before, too - in 2024 they paid $1.64M to settle with New Jersey after inspectors found 2,000+ instances of unit prices using the wrong unit of measure.
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This 32GB AMD GPU Runs AI Text, Images AND Video

Time for another AWESOME video from Lon Seidman of LON.TV!


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Untitled Linux Show 276

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


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America’s Fastest-Growing EV State Isn’t California—Not by a Long Shot

New data shows electric vehicle adoption is increasingly driven by state policies, electricity prices and charging access—not federal incentives
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The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.


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It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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The EV company to watch out for is SAIC. They seem likely to take over Government Motors at some point.

GM originally struck a JV deal with SAIC to gain access to China. Now SAIC has taken China back with the substantial library of technology GM shared and they're looking to export to Mexico, South America, the Middle East, and Asia-Pacific.
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US EV sales are rising again. Here’s why the recovery is set to last.

Even though sales tanked last year after the end of federal incentives, the American EV sector is on the mend as drivers face sky-high gasoline prices.
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If it weren't for the sky-high electricity prices...

Of course, the real scare with Winter coming is the insane cost of heating oil.
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GM Is Coming for Tesla, Rivian, and China, on Your Phone and in the Car

GM’s latest tech preview details autonomous highway driving plans, AI-powered OnStar features, and new LMR batteries for future EVs.
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GM said its next-generation vehicle architecture will provide 40 times more computing power and 30 percent less wiring than before and will expand from the 2028 Cadillac Escalade IQ to its high-volume SUVs, trucks, crossovers, and fourth-generation EVs, which will be powered by lithium manganese-rich (LMR) prismatic batteries

Despite the politicization and perceived consumer pivot away from EVs in America, GM needs to remain globally competitive, so it's doubling down on its fourth generation EVs, with energy-dense, cheaper-to-manufacture LMR batteries, more efficient motors, and state-of-the-art centralized computing architecture. With a stated goal of cutting the traditional four- to five-year concept-to-production time in half, GM is clearly challenging the concept of "China speed," which in the Chinese automotive industry can be as quick as 18 months from design to start of production. In the AI space, GM is smartly collapsing all of its marque-specific apps under the familiar OnStar brand, while providing more features—both on the phone and in the car—than it ever has before.
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