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Waterskier1

Last reply Nov 25, 2015 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Can I use a Hopper (all 4 tuners) with OTA on same cable, and Joey?

Currently I have a 612,a 722, and 211K receivers. I have the 722 in the basement where all the sat antenna (3 coaxes) and OTA antennas enter the house. The 722 is connected one of the sat antenna coaxes, the internet and a sling box, and the SD output is connected to a video distribution system which also has OTA antenna input. This allow me to watch SD Dish and/or OTA at all the wired coax outlets in the house.

In addition, I have a 612 in the living room, fed with a cable that is diplex/triplex with one sat antenna (supplying two tuners in the 612) and OTA antenna from the basement. This cable is then diplex/triplex to the two tuners in the 612 and the OTA signal which is split between a Tivo box and the OTA input to the 612. This give me 2 dish sat channels plus one OTA recording on the 612 plus 2 channels OTA recording on the Tivo, just in the living room.

I have the 211K receiver in my bedroom, fed with one coax from the basement. That cable has the sat antenna diplex/triplex with the video distribution (which is actually rf, not video) rf output of the 722 mixed with OTA signals. This allows me to view the output of the 722 in SD, OTA and also input to the 211K. I did this so I can watch recorded shows from the 722, OTA shows, and HD live sat on the 211K. I also use the 211K in my RV.

Now I'd like to replace all this (possibly not the 211K since I'll still need it in the RV) with a Hopper/Joey system. I think I'd need to put the Hopper in the basement, since it will need two coax inputs from the sat antenna for the 4-tuner recording/watching. But, I don't believe that the Hopper has OTA recording or even an input, so I'll to supply OTA, and Hopper output to a Joey and Tivo in the Living Room which only has one coax cable. All coax cables are installed inside walls/ceiling and installing new ones (professionally inside wall/ceilings) would be a nightmare, cutting drywall in multiple locations, upstairs and downstairs). I've read that you can have the moca signals between the Hopper/joey and OTA signals on the same coax. So, it seems that the only solution for that location would be a wireless Joey, and use the coax for OTA only.

I believe that I'd have to do the same (wifi Joey) in my bedroom.

I would leave the rest of the TVs on rf input, assuming there is an rf output from the hopper, which will be SD only. I'm finding I'm not using those TV as much anyway.

I believe that the wireless Joey has less functionality, and certainly doesn't have any recording capability, so I'll loose at least one record tuner capability.

Does this sound like it would work? Is there a better solution without tearing out walls and ceilings to route coax cables? Routing cables along the outside of the house or around baseboards is NOT an option.

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bwexler

Nov 21, 2015

You can think of the node like a splitter. It can be placed anywhere between the Sat Dish and the Hopper(s). A solo node can support ONE Hopper and several Joeys. A dual node can support two Hoppers and multiple Joeys. A solo node requires two coax cables from the Dish and a dual node requires 3 coax cables from the dish. Only one coax is needed from the node to each Hopper or Joey location. You can ad a tap (splitter) if you need more locations then the node can connect directly. A super Joey has some special wiring requirements, that are above my pay grade.
A Perfect system for a couple, who are TV junkies is two Hoppers with Sling and enough Joeys (at $7/month each) to support all your remaining TVs, Plus an OTA adapter on each Hopper. This would allow eight independent tuners, one of which can magically record the four major networks. then 8 TVs ( or 11 if 4 are watching the networks) can independently watch what they want live or any recordings on the Hoppers.
If the Hopper is recording it consumes one tuner for the four network channels and one tuner for each additional channel. The OTA tuner can only tune ONE channel at a time to watch or record.
Since I am getting as long winded as you, I will let you digest this and respond with more questions as you sort through the maze.

harshness

Nov 22, 2015

bwexler said:
You can think of the node like a splitter.

No, you cannot. It is nothing like a splitter. If you play fast and loose with the terminology, it could be thought of as a special kind of combiner.

It is a stacker that puts enough bands on a single cable to feed three tuners.

Waterskier1

Nov 22, 2015

Ok, then a "node" is a piece of hardware, independent of the existing dish antenna, and the hopper/joeys?

harshness said:
No, you cannot. It is nothing like a splitter. If you play fast and loose with the terminology, it could be thought of as a special kind of combiner.

It is a stacker that puts enough bands on a single cable to feed three tuners.

harshness

Nov 23, 2015

Waterskier1 said:
Ok, then a "node" is a piece of hardware, independent of the existing dish antenna, and the hopper/joeys?

Sure, you could say that, but so is a remote control.

Waterskier1

Nov 24, 2015

harshness said:
Sure, you could say that, but so is a remote control.

My point is that this "Node" does not exist within the Hopper, it is additional hardware to the hopper/joey boxes/Dish 1000 antenna.

Centex

Nov 24, 2015

Waterskier1 said:
My point is that this "Node" does not exist within the Hopper, it is additional hardware to the hopper/joey boxes/Dish 1000 antenna.

That is correct. Without getting pedantic, the node acts as a router for your Hopper/Joey system. As others have said, it is installed between the Dish and the hopper. Single hopper systems use a Solo node, 2 hopper setups use a Duo node. The node is what separates the signals into specific bandwidths to carry carry multiple streams on a single cable. The system has to have a node even if it is a single Hopper and no Joeys.

We have a service closet that all of the cables come into. That is where our node lives. 3 cables come in from the Dish antenna, and the various cables go out to their respective Hoppers/joeys.

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Waterskier1

Nov 25, 2015

Ok, I guess this is like an enhanced version of what I now call "Triplexer" which "stacks" two sat antenna feeds onto a single coax, along with OTA signals. I'm getting the overall idea how this works. I realize that many people don't care to know these details, but I feel it necessary since I will be installing or directing the installation if I choose to upgrade at this time. My biggest concern is getting both OTA and MOCA to two different locations, assuming I locate the Hopper(s) in the basement "service closet" where all three Dish antenna coaxes along with OTA antenna coax enter my house. And without tearing out ceiling/wall drywall to run new cable(s). I'm guessing that wireless Joeys might be the answer, with OTA on the existing coaxes from the "service closet" to current locations. That would allow me to still use my Tivo on Local HD (much better quality than Dish compressed Locals) to supplement the Hopper(s).

Now, I it's determined that I need two Hoppers to meet recording demands (and I'll have to confirm that I'll need two if I use one in Prime Time mode), can 2-3 wireless joeys access all the recordings/signals tuned on both Hoppers?

Thanks for taking the time to educate me on this new (to me) technology.

Centex said:
That is correct. Without getting pedantic, the node acts as a router for your Hopper/Joey system. As others have said, it is installed between the Dish and the hopper. Single hopper systems use a Solo node, 2 hopper setups use a Duo node. The node is what separates the signals into specific bandwidths to carry carry multiple streams on a single cable. The system has to have a node even if it is a single Hopper and no Joeys.

We have a service closet that all of the cables come into. That is where our node lives. 3 cables come in from the Dish antenna, and the various cables go out to their respective Hoppers/joeys.

JosephB said:
Of course, he said "without getting pedantic". For an average Joe, calling it the "router" even though it's not really doing any routing is a good way to describe its role in the system. Even my 53 year old mother knows what a router is, and what people call "routers" these days at home aren't truly just routers but also wireless access points and switches and sometimes modems too.

JosephB

Nov 25, 2015

Waterskier1 said:
Ok, I guess this is like an enhanced version of what I now call "Triplexer" which "stacks" two sat antenna feeds onto a single coax, along with OTA signals. I'm getting the overall idea how this works. I realize that many people don't care to know these details, but I feel it necessary since I will be installing or directing the installation if I choose to upgrade at this time. My biggest concern is getting both OTA and MOCA to two different locations, assuming I locate the Hopper(s) in the basement "service closet" where all three Dish antenna coaxes along with OTA antenna coax enter my house. And without tearing out ceiling/wall drywall to run new cable(s). I'm guessing that wireless Joeys might be the answer, with OTA on the existing coaxes from the "service closet" to current locations. That would allow me to still use my Tivo on Local HD (much better quality than Dish compressed Locals) to supplement the Hopper(s).

Now, I it's determined that I need two Hoppers to meet recording demands (and I'll have to confirm that I'll need two if I use one in Prime Time mode), can 2-3 wireless joeys access all the recordings/signals tuned on both Hoppers?

Thanks for taking the time to educate me on this new (to me) technology.

The simple fact is that no, you cannot diplex OTA onto the same coax that is carrying signal to/from a Hopper or Joey.

This PDF is really, really great at explaining all the different components of a Hopper system (with the exception of Super Joeys): http://www.collinsdistribution.com/techservice/Whole_Home_Install_Configurations.pdf

The frequency plan for a Hopper system is the following:
Satellite: 950 MHz to 3 GHz. MoCA: 650 MHz to 875 MHz.

OTA in the US is on two bands: VHF: 54 and 216 MHz, UHF: 470 and 890 MHz.

Most channels these days are in UHF, so you're going to step all over the MoCA signal when you try to diplex OTA into the mix.

Since the Hopper is a server/client system, you only really need OTA at the Hopper location, not all of the Joeys, so maybe that will help simplify. And if you put Joeys (or even super joeys) at the TVs, you can re-use RF distribution cabling to distribute the MoCA signal.

JosephB

Nov 25, 2015

I just re-read your post to try to better understand.

A couple of questions: How many tuners do you need active at one time (including both recording and viewing live TV)?

Are you OK with getting rid of the TiVo if you can do OTA on the Hopper, and distribute the Hopper's live TV and recorded TV to all locations?

Depending on those, you're probably in good shape with a Hopper in your basement and a Super Joey in the location of your 612. With that setup, 2 satellite tuners will be at the location of your 612, 3 satellite tuners + 1 OTA tuner will be at your Hopper in the basement, and the other TV location(s) will get their programming to a regular Joey via MoCA over coax. If everything is home-run back to your basement, no re-wiring should be necessary. You might need to swap out Whole Home Video Distribution stuff (like amps) with regular splitters, but otherwise should be in good shape.

And the box you want to keep for your RV, just put it in the RV. I wouldn't try to include it in this setup, it will drastically complicate things.

harshness

Nov 25, 2015

JosephB said:
OTA in the US is on two bands: VHF: 54 and 216 MHz, UHF: 470 and 890 MHz.

In the US, UHF tops out at just under 700MHz now that the DTV conversion is essentially complete. Subsequent to the DTV conversion, both the FCC and CRTC have passed rules that will eventually take UHF channel 51 out of the picture through attrition.

Then end result, as you asserted, is a small overlap between the OTA and DISH's E-band MoCA (there is a big overlap with AT&T's D-band DECA) so planning on using both is generally not a good idea. With DOCSIS cable modem technology reaching up into the 1.3GHz range, diplexing cable isn't a good plan either.

If OTA is critical in all locations, an independent system should be run as all of the other technologies (CATV, DBS and MoCA) are infringing. MoCA is perhaps the most dangerous as its relatively high-power signal can damage equipment that isn't designed to block the frequencies.

JosephB

Nov 25, 2015

harshness said:
In the US, UHF tops out at just under 700MHz now that the DTV conversion is essentially complete. Subsequent to the DTV conversion, both the FCC and CRTC have passed rules that will eventually take UHF channel 51 out of the picture through attrition.

Then end result, as you asserted, is a small overlap between the OTA and DISH's E-band MoCA (there is a big overlap with AT&T's D-band DECA) so planning on using both is generally not a good idea. With DOCSIS cable modem technology reaching up into the 1.3GHz range, diplexing cable isn't a good plan either.

If OTA is critical in all locations, an independent system should be run as all of the other technologies (CATV, DBS and MoCA) are infringing. MoCA is perhaps the most dangerous as its relatively high-power signal can damage equipment that isn't designed to block the frequencies.

Yeah, I learned so much about this because I was trying to diplex my cable modem onto a Hopper network and obviously that couldn't work. Technically it could have, since my cable modem is syncing to channels in the low 600mhz range, but I would have needed a filter to block anything above 700mhz, and of course there was no way to be sure that the cable company wouldn't want to switch me to other channels in the future. DOCSIS technically gets up to 1.3Ghz, but most cable systems are in the 900-950mhz range max.

Either way, I think the OP is going to be best served by a Hopper with an OTA module and not trying to get the OTA signal itself to all of the various locations, and just relying on the Hopper doing the tuning and sending programs out via clients and MoCA.

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harshness

Nov 25, 2015

JosephB said:
Either way, I think the OP is going to be best served by a Hopper with an OTA module and not trying to get the OTA signal itself to all of the various locations, and just relying on the Hopper doing the tuning and sending programs out via clients and MoCA.

If the previously undisclosed TiVo is to remain part of the mix, some manner of OTA distribution will be necessary at least at the TiVo location. For that, a separate cable should be pulled.

As I said, it is much, MUCH more important to know what the end game is than what's in play at the moment.

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Ramy

Supporting Founder

Last reply 8 minutes ago · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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Yespage

Today at 4:57 PM

24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:

All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
- Independent of record too! Bonus.
MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
I'm out of ideas.

Cons

Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
- Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
Going to start resting players?
- The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
- Resting players could make games dumb.
- Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!

AZ.

Today at 5:30 PM

Yespage said:
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:

All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff

Independent of record too! Bonus.

MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.

I'm out of ideas.

Cons

Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games

Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff

Going to start resting players?

The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!

Resting players could make games dumb.

Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.

How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!

One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.

Jimbo

Today at 5:45 PM

Yespage said:
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:

All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff

Independent of record too! Bonus.

MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.

I'm out of ideas.

Cons

Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games

Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff

Going to start resting players?

The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!

Resting players could make games dumb.

Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.

How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!

This will be a SAD DAY when this passes ....

They complained the last year that we had a bunch of Blow Outs in the Playoffs ... heres an idea, lets Double the amount of teams and hope for Closer games ... ya right.

This never should have went past 8 teams, 10 at the most.

Now, I have heard that play in games are being talked about, such as #13 plays #24 and so forth, to cut the field down (why cut it down, just don't expand it.)
I'm not sure exactly how thats going to work out or if it was just someone talking.

They were also talking about starting the Season earlier ...

I really don't like the National Championship game being the end of January ... if the Semi Finals are over New Years, thats fine with the Championship game the next week.

Jimbo

Today at 5:47 PM

AZ. said:
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.

There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...

AZ.

23 minutes ago

Jimbo said:
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...

Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....

Jimbo

12 minutes ago

AZ. said:
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....

Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...
Edit, Bama plays 4, Georgia plays 3, But Ole Miss plays 5 (didn't expect to see that)

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.

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AZ.

8 minutes ago

Jimbo said:
Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.

Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?

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ppappas

Pub Member / Supporter

Last reply 9 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Newest NCIS recording doesn't allow auto skip

On Tuesday, I recorded the first episodes of the new season's NCIS shows on CBS (Dish provided, not OTA). The new New York series and Origins will both do Auto Skip, but the original, now season 24 does not. What's stranger, when I do a search for NCIS, Origins and New York show the current recording and the next episode it will record, but the original show only shows the current recording and some other channel showing the very first episode of season one. It makes no sense. When I set up the timers, I was able to use search for Origins and New York, but for the original, I had to scroll ahead in the guide until last Tuesday when the show was airing. Then set the timer from there. You can see its timer type is DVR where the other two are Seek. What am I missing?
Thanks!

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Nebugeater

Today at 9:12 AM

It is obviose some people do not know the diffornece between auto skip and FF

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Jimbo

Today at 9:45 AM

Nebugeater said:
It is obviose some people do not know the diffornece between auto skip and FF

IF you were referring to my post ...
Thats why I do all my Streaming Commercial FREE.

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Bobby

Today at 11:22 AM

Nebugeater said:
It is obviose some people do not know the diffornece between auto skip and FF

And there is a difference between fast forward and skip forwad....

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tanman

Today at 11:25 AM

With both CBS and Fox autohop (as we know) is not enabled for a week..But after 24 hours if you mash the FF button until the red kangaroo shows up in the bottom right you wont overshoot the program. No need to try to figure how long the break is.

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Cold Irons

Today at 12:03 PM

tanman said:
With both CBS and Fox autohop (as we know) is not enabled for a week..But after 24 hours if you mash the FF button until the red kangaroo shows up in the bottom right you wont overshoot the program. No need to try to figure how long the break is.

Yep. We do this all the time, but we use the 30-sec skip forward button until the red kangaroo shows up. Love this feature.

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Jim5506

9 minutes ago

I'm a bit confused about the recording methods.
Do you havePrime Time Anytime enabled, by doing that you don't have to set recordings for Prime time programs on ABC, CBS, NBC or Fox stations, it's done daily, 7 days a week.
And only 2 weeks recordings are saved, no deletions either.

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Windows 10/11 Download

I created this thread on the original Edgecutter Cutting Edge Forums site. It's simply a place for those to review the latest software available for those using Windows 10 and Windows 11. To date it has received 112,559 views. I have been asked by staff to continue this thread here.

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EarDemon

Tuesday at 9:43 PM

If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.

WhiteBeard

Tuesday at 9:59 PM

EarDemon said:
If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.

To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.

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EarDemon

Yesterday at 10:12 PM

WhiteBeard said:
To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.

For niche use cases, yes I agree. Kali for ethical hacking and security testing, and running a Cacti server for network monitoring are the two things I have experience in. Plus thousands and thousands of other things, but for every day use I just can't see it. The owner of the GMRS repeater that I pay to access is changing the Tx DPL tones tomorrow, while Chirp is available on Linux, the software to program my MXT500 is not.

I run Fedora and Ubuntu in VMWare, honestly I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows. The cartoonish dock at the bottom of the screen reminds me of Apple products.

EarDemon

Today at 10:07 AM

I have no OEM bloat, on CTO devices where I can access the drive, I order it with the smallest allowed drive and crack the device open throw the factory drive in the garbage and put in my own WD Black and install Windows from bootable media. For Windows bloat, I install Windows using the English - World option which limits preinstalled MS bloat.

Windows and Office features I wish to block, like CoPilot and Cortana, macro enabled Office files and others are blocked with GPOs.

Between keeping all software up to date, doing firmware updates, putting IoT devices on a separate VLAN, running Symantec Endpoint (say what you want about it, it's been good to me) and practicing safe hex, I'm vigilant but not paranoid about security.

With NVMe SSDs, my cold boot up time on all devices is under 30 secs as well. Fast boot disabled, BitLocker drive encryption enabled.

I have nothing against Linux, been paying with it on and off since 2004ish, it's just not the right solution for me.

HipKat

Today at 10:32 AM

EarDemon said:
it's just not the right solution for me.

As I said above, and, FWIW, I run Win11 Pro and Arch on separate 250 GB NVME drives, using F8 to select which I boot to, with a 1TB SSD for storage, accessible to both OSs and a third formatted Nvme I want to use to learn Kali. It was much faster to setup Arch than it was to strip down Windows. Windows still takes much longer to boot.

harshness

Today at 11:18 AM

EarDemon said:
I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows.

What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI? By many accounts, it has been going downhill since Windows 7.

There are Linux desktops that offer Windows or Mac UIs, yet you don't hear much chatter about them outside of questions about when the creators might get sued.

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EarDemon

41 minutes ago

harshness said:
What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI?

Because it's what I prefer. I know I've said this a few times, I use Open Shell to give me the cascading start menu a la WIN 95 and NT4.0. The only reason I went from Windows Vista to 7 back in the day was because of Classic Shell. I cannot stand anything other than the OG start menu from 30+ years ago. I'm using ExplorerPatcher to give me Windows 10 UI elements of the taskbar and right click context menus.

If you could take a look at how I set up Windows 95, you'd find many similarities to how I use 11.

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EarDemon

26 minutes ago

I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply 36 minutes ago · posted in TV Shows

NCIS: Origins

Hard getting used to the new younger Gibbs, Mark Harmons son had the right look but I understand he didn't want the role.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.

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dfergie

Today at 4:38 PM

Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...

reubenray

Today at 4:48 PM

dfergie said:
Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...

Will the OG Gibbs be on NCIS or will Tony be on NCIS Origins?

dfergie

Today at 6:06 PM

Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.

reubenray

Today at 7:23 PM

dfergie said:
Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.

I saw Gibbs walk into the door, but I did not see Tony.

Jimbo

54 minutes ago

dfergie said:
Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.

Tony was Not in this episode ... you may remember Gibbs walking into the office and those around Welcomed him home, Voices only.

If you also watch the Mothership, Tony has been in that one ...

dfergie

36 minutes ago

Jimbo said:
Tony was Not in this episode ... you may remember Gibbs walking into the office and those around Welcomed him home, Voices only.

If you also watch the Mothership, Tony has been in that one ...

I must have seen that in previews
.

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osu1991

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42 minutes ago · posted in TV Shows

Frisco King - Paramount Plus

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December 18, 2026 Paramount plus

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply 51 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Bobby

Today at 11:19 AM

Kiss - The Art Of Noise

long_time_Dish

Today at 4:45 PM

Beautiful Noise - Neil Diamond

sdfntx

Today at 5:39 PM

White Noise - Jessie Baylin

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dishstaller

Today at 6:13 PM

White Rabbit - Jefferson Airplane

long_time_Dish

51 minutes ago

White Sun - The Doobie Brothers

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dishstaller

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Last reply Today at 8:25 PM · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

Hughesnet cancelling email addresses

Wasn't exactly sure where to post this. Just had a customer come in inquiring about internet. He has HughesNet and had heard good things about mine. He asked if we provided email addresses and it kinda caught me off guard. I said he should be able to keep whatever email he had been using....my sister in law is still using a BellSouth email addy and they haven't been around here for many years. He said he had gotten a letter from HughesNet stating that they had until Nov 16th to save, move, forward, whatever, their Hughesnet emails because they would lose them after that date.

I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.

Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.

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Foxbat

Today at 2:37 PM

Doing a Google of the HughesNet Email notice, it seems that HughesNet has been trying to eliminate hosting emails since 2019. And with HughesNet filing Chapter 11 back in August, it would be a smart move to switch to a more stable Email provider. Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

SpaceX's Starlink and the Cellular 5G Home Internet solutions have pretty much relegated HughesNet and its high latency, low bandwidth Internet service to History. If Earth had shorter days, maybe a Geostationary Internet Solution might have stood a fighting chance…

navychop

Today at 3:16 PM

Foxbat said:
If Earth had shorter days,

Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

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Foxbat

Today at 3:30 PM

navychop said:
Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

Still the same number of years, just more Sunsets…

klang

Today at 4:21 PM

Foxbat said:
Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

I still have one of those although I've been trying to wean myself off it.

JSheridan

Today at 4:51 PM

Among my many email accounts I still have a .netscape.net which AOL assimilated a while back.

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EarDemon

Today at 8:25 PM

Yep, I got the notification a few days ago. I'm not totally surprised.

Never used the address for anything, so no big loss to me.

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meStevo

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Last reply Today at 8:24 PM · posted in TV Shows

The Diplomat (Netflix)

Starting a thread klang !

After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.

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klang

Oct 16, 2025

Probably starting season 3 tonight.

meStevo

Oct 16, 2025

Finished it this evening. General impressions with no story spoilers, but will spoil it anyways as it just came out today.

Not quite as impactful of a finale as past seasons I thought, we'll see how far down the rabbit hole things go as the latest plot twists and turns unravel. Thought this season had a full episode or two too much rom-com style disagreements, but it was more or less paid off later. Ultimately didn't enjoy that being more of a throughline in the stories this season compared to what I remember of the priors.

My least favorite of the 3 seasons, but still very good. Really wonder how far they'll go with things, hard to see a nuclear attack or something ever actually happening. They just had a better story to tell and more meaningful beats in the prior season.

KAB

Oct 17, 2025

Not in a hurry to watch it this time.

klang

Oct 21, 2025

Finished season 3 last night. Still one of my favorite shows.

Anyone else wonder if there might be something else going on with Callum? Seems to me he has too much access to Russian intelligence.

meStevo

Today at 8:24 PM

One episode into season 4 that dropped today...

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Bobby

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Last reply Today at 8:01 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

4K Events Discussion Thread

This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.

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jsmit86

Oct 7, 2026

Regarding the no sound bug when watching 4K HDR events or DVR recordings with Dolby set to ON:
I got rolled back to H708 last night after getting an email from the support team. It fixed the bug.

The email indicated that they believed they found the issue, and if the fix works, they would roll it out via an update in the coming weeks.

So... we should see that bug exterminated in the near future.

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long_time_Dish

Saturday at 6:31 PM

148-04 says the NASCAR race on at noon on Sunday. Be interesting to see if it is.

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Bobby

Tuesday at 8:48 PM

MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.

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Foxbat

Today at 6:24 PM

Bobby said:
MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.

Bobby said:
CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.

Bobby said:
CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.

Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.

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Bobby

Today at 7:31 PM

Foxbat said:
Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.

As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.

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Bobby

Today at 8:01 PM

Bobby said:
As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.

As an edit, you need to sub to the National Action Pack at $12 a month to receive those channels.

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A State Cyber-emergency in Japan

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