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I dug out a heavier duty Von Weise actuator I had stored after my lighter duty Von Weise stripped the acme nut. I glued the magnets back in and put a lot of work in it. It seems the acme nut was about gone because I did clean and grease it good. I just set up a Freesat V7 and a V8 Super and that did it in.

I've been over at Von Weise reading the descriptions of the actuators. The one for $199, the drawing says 33" retracted and 24" extended. That's not right! Then the $269 one says 33" retracted and 57" extended, that's right. Both are 24" stroke with reed switches.

I'd rather not spend $225 on a new one but I'm tired of messing with it and I can fix this one later. They have acme nuts for $20 but they want $20 to ship it and I can get a whole actuator shipped for $25, go figure.

I'm just tired of working on stuff!!!!! I had shoulder surgery and am behind on everything and it's been one thing after the other it seems. The car, the bedroom TV quit, actuator, lawn tractor, the Jeep and now the actuator again. I stayed up late to get the V8 Super programmed because I need to be doing other things, I'm sure you know how that goes.

I used Google cache to display this, otherwise you have to download it.

It lists a tube only which would get me going if it fits my motor but I expect it to cost too much, might as well get a new one. Do you guys know anything about it or the cost? #25 on the list.

25 6Z091 n/a V00212AK76 58.8 34.8 24 n/a n/a 14.0 lbs Tube

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...ecrossreference.xls+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

When I Google 6Z091 I get this which I assume is a photo of the tube only, but it could be for representation only and it's no longer available.

https://www.grainger.com/product/DAYTON-Tube-6Z091


Then they have this for $199, the one that's listed wrong in the drawing or I think it is, has to be.

DC Actuator 36 VDC, Full Load Speed 11 inches/minute, Gear Ration 19:1, Full Load Thurst 600 lbs, 1/15 HP, Current @ Full Load 3 Amps, Reed Switch. Substitute for Dayton 5A651.

http://estore.vonweise.com/vw7636vdcactuator-1.aspx

This one is $269.

Solar Panel/Satellite DC Actuator with Telescoping Tube Assembly. 24-36 VDC 1/15 HP Bidirectional Permanent Magnet Input Motor. 600 lbs. Full Load Thrust. Linear Velocity at Full Load Thrust 6.8 – 11.0 in/min. with 24 Inch Linear Stroke. Reed Switch Feedback Control. Limit Switches for overall stoke control. Enclosure Totally Enclosed Non-Ventilated. 19:1 Gearbox Ratio.

http://estore.vonweise.com/v76-5actuatorwithtelescopingtube.aspx


This one is $229 and not too clear on the details on length etc.

Solar Panel/Satellite DC Actuator with Telescoping Tube Assembly. 36 VDC 1/15 HP Bidirectional Permanent Magnet Input Motor. 300 lbs. Full Load Thrust. Linear Velocity at Full Load Thrust 11.0 in/min with 24 Inch Linear Stroke. Reed Switch Feedback Control. Limit Switches for Overall Stoke Control. Enclosure Totally Enclosed Non-Ventilated. 28:1 Gearbox Ratio

http://estore.vonweise.com/vw-24lcactuatorwithtelescopingtube.aspx


I've read a lot of bad, bad, things about the cheaper Super Jacks and the Maxi or whatever it's called, I forget. I've also read the thread on acme nut repair and I have a dremel but not a welder. I'd like to get it going cheap but I'll just buy a new one if I have to. I'm pooped and wanna watch TV, not work on it until Christmas.

I glued the magnets back in this motor and made a magnet wheel for it and converted it to a reed switch. It has been running great but I worry about the motor magnets, brushes etc and I want to be done with this. I hate to pay $20 for an acme nut and $20 to ship it (wow), then have the motor quit and end up buying a new one anyway, after installing a $40 acme nut in this one.

So, you are the guys to ask for certain, which of these is the right one or is that tube affordable?

I want my MTV (METV)! ;)
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I am getting 4000 count's per drive (arc) on the ajax 110 degree move; this is pretty fast compared to the 8000+ counts on the von weisse 8 magnet wheel. They both are considered fast counting; or a fast counting mechanism; as is a little dish motor; i would say the von weisse was my deal with the better days; there were lots of them to put in; in the 90's. No different today; they are a slower moving unit; finer threaded than the rest. If you want; a von weisse can even count well enough to follow the sun; or robot a table that is heavy. I have just the arm as a gate mechanism when it is frozen solid in rust from the coastal weathers the west has I put those into a pile. Yes, the link works; von weisse themselves is fine with me. Thanks for your links.

Each of the different sizes are power structured language; that is how strong a mechanism it is. Amps drawn as a load is also shown if you take each arm; or mechanism; then say a 3 ampere draw is the amps during strokes operation; and the controller must be able to supply it as very perfect amps; and count it perfectly every distance it travels. The clamping or startup of the motor value (say 5-10 amps) is also into it's sizes; and the controller must supply it also. So the bigger motors are only made by tesla today. I used two sizes of the von weisse because that is what they designed for satellite dish controller's in the 90's; and one was stronger in strength (bigger) than the other. In the 80's; they made the older optical Uniden line controller motor arm's/actuators. Optical counter's went up to 10,000 counts per full drive to both limits. Some controllers could not position as fine as the unidens did; and the arms lasted a long time. The problem in opticals of its day was if any light got into the motors case; it will miscount; today they have it miniturized and sealed with black plastic so no light enters it; on the little dish motors. This is also why if you hook both a c band motor; and a little ku band motor to the same controller; they move un-similarly in the arc; or amount of movement per count; which is how fine the dish is moving and how perfectly it can position itself.

Parts are hard to find these days for each different motor; except by the original manufacturer. I am looking for an armature; the part that spins after the voltage is supplied; in this case; the same dc controller; a v box; g box is designed for. It is a worm geared drive on the armature; a very weird one on the ajax mount; and i have no jig yet that can grind the arms of the armature flat again; going to try to free hand it with a drill, but i have no margin as the bearing sagged the wear mark right at the outside of the armatures where it is plugged into the many armature wires. It also is housed magnetically to the case which cannot be "removed" for any fixing (really weird)...nobody else makes this type anymore. But yes; the von weisse will count the best new today; put on the von weisse and re-program; or re-actuate all them channels; that will be a new mount in my case; actuator brand new too. For precisest movements; the counts per inch matter; and optical grade is how USALS works "so fine". Todays satellite signals really are very finely moved to also.
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The V00212AT76 - VW76 is the one I bought and it only has four magnets. I converted my old optical Von Weise to a magnet wheel and made the wheel and everything. It had 6 slots in the optical wheel so I put 6 magnets on the wheel. The new one has room to glue 8 of my smaller magnets on it and I believe I'm going to try that.

It will position just fine and it doesn't miss a count but it's real hard to get it to count by 1. When bumping it up from 336 it hits 338 every time until you really try then you'll eventually hit 337. The 6 magnet wheel had no problem at all counting by 1 and it didn't miscount. Some of the Ku band is just 1 count off from the C and I know they should be exact but that's the nature of the C/Ku combo LNBFs. Since I can't store a C/Ku sat in the same position and have to use two slots and I have to set them 1 apart even if they seem to be in the exact same position. An 8 count wheel will give me 3 positions that are so close together they'd fall within a 2 count with the 4 magnet wheel and I'd be able to nail them every time.

I've been realigning the sats in the Gbox and it's a pain not being able to share positions between sats. It'd be nice of the receiver would let you put SES-3 and SES-3 Ku on position 22, but it's one sat to a position. There isn't any way to store a whole sat (both bands) in one position. This is why I need to be able to count by 1 and for aiming in general. Actually now that they're in there it's not so bad but if I want to adjust a sat by 1 I have to go through the east/west/east/west thing until I hit 337.

I've been realigning the dish to track the arc better and have needed a 1 count a lot of times. It was off a little bit and then I went the wrong way when adjusting the dish (at the dish) and it was off a lot, but I went back and changed it back the other way plus another 1/2 turn and almost nailed it. Now I need to get my wife to help me do the west sat/south sat/west sat/south sat etc again and get it exact.

I think the pole may have tilted a hair in 12 years or maybe the sats have that much of a finer beam but the sats were a tad up from where the dish was tracking, 1/2 to 3/4 turn or so. Anyway, now when I get dead on it with the Gbox it's off maybe 1/4 inch. When I pull the dish down the signal goes from 79 to 82 for instance. I don't pull it much, one finger and not a lot of pressure. I tuned 95W Ku, the last channel on it from 39 to 46 so that's a good improvement since I started. It isn't off much but I want it dead on.

We put the house cordless phone on intercom and she tells me when it's peaked. Tomorrow we'll get it finished, last night we had to be at a funeral so we had to stop before we were done. The one count problem arose first when re-positioning all of the sats because the count was different from 6 to 4 magnets and again when I was pinpointing a sat adjusting the declination. First you have to make sure you on it east/west with the Gbox, then up and down when adjusting the dish. After you start getting it very close the sats will shift a count east or west. Once I get it tracking the arc perfectly then I'll just do a recalculation and everything will be inline. I get confused, but I think it's if you're having to lower the dish you'll have to shift it east by 1 or 2 when you get it adjusted right.

My dish was tracking the arc a hair too low then I lowered it instead of raising it and now it's too high and I have to lower it a hair. I'll get it but after going through all of this I sure wish it would count by 1. That's why I'm thinking I should convert it to an 8 magnet wheel as soon as I am done adjusting the dish. Then I'd have to re-position all of the sats again because of the different count but I'd be set until it wears out. I don't know what Von Weise charges for an 8 magnet wheel. I might email them and ask but they want $20 just to ship an acme nut and I can't see paying $40 for a wheel when I can just change the magnets on this one. These small N42 or N52 magnets will fit on the factory wheel just fine.

So that's where I'm at with the new actuator. I love it but it has a hard time counting by one with a Gbox and it would make programming sats or adjusting the dish or anything you do easier. Once you get everything programmed in it really wouldn't matter much but an 8 magnet wheel would be really nice for next time, like when we get new 4K receivers and have to make a list from scratch again! ;).
armadillo_115
Yankee495...does your Gbox not count by one when using the Gbox remote?

I have a generic Vbox. Positioning with the receiver moves 2 counts...but positioning with the Vbox remote moves it by single counts. While setting/resetting a Sat position in my LinkBox 9000i menu...I found that I can use the Vbox remote to move by only 1 count if needed. Then I can 'Set' the position on the receiver screen.

I also use the Vbox remote to fine tune a channel while watching. Often it works but sometimes the receiver pulls it right back to the 'Set' position. The receiver and I can get it a sparring match.:fencing
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Yankee495...does your Gbox not count by one when using the Gbox remote?

I have a generic Vbox. Positioning with the receiver moves 2 counts...but positioning with the Vbox remote moves it by single counts. While setting/resetting a Sat position in my LinkBox 9000i menu...I found that I can use the Vbox remote to move by only 1 count if needed. Then I can 'Set' the position on the receiver screen.

I also use the Vbox remote to fine tune a channel while watching. Often it works but sometimes the receiver pulls it right back to the 'Set' position. The receiver and I can get it a sparring match.:fencing
I've had that happen, especially with my Amiko Mini HD SE. When I use the Vbox7 remote to fine tune the Amiko wants to motor back to the stored position before I can save. Really annoying... o_O
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Yankee495...does your Gbox not count by one when using the Gbox remote?

I have a generic Vbox. Positioning with the receiver moves 2 counts...but positioning with the Vbox remote moves it by single counts. While setting/resetting a Sat position in my LinkBox 9000i menu...I found that I can use the Vbox remote to move by only 1 count if needed. Then I can 'Set' the position on the receiver screen.

I also use the Vbox remote to fine tune a channel while watching. Often it works but sometimes the receiver pulls it right back to the 'Set' position. The receiver and I can get it a sparring match.:fencing


No, it doesn't help to use the remote, it still counts by two. I have a feeling the 4 magnet setup is the cause. The magnets are in a north/south polarization setup, every other one being opposite, two north and two south. I think the 8 magnet conversion is as easy as removing the ones that are in it and putting in the much smaller ones. The ones in it are about the size of a dime and the ones I'm going to put in it are about the size of a pencil eraser, maybe a little bigger. I did know the size in mm but I forgot and am too lazy to look it up. I have so much crap in my head that some gets pushed out when I try to cram something else in! There is a thread here about it.

Anyway, the original magnets are so big that they eat up the space between them but my really small magnets will fit fine. I see no reason why it wouldn't just work but if I didn't they'd be easy to remove because I use rubber cement. It holds them in real good but is a bit pliable and peels out real easy. I hate the thought of re-positioning the sats again but it wouldn't be so bad if I didn't have to battle the Gbox over position count.

And, I don't think anything if worse than this V8 Super when it comes to the dish taking off. It moves to the highlighted sat or channel in at least 3 important situations. They are: in the satellite setup menu, when you select a favorite folder or when you use the Rolodex search feature.

I have never seen the Rolodex search feature in a receiver. You hit OK to bring up the list then you click the blue button (it shows Blue box A-Z on screen). That brings up an alphabetical list on the right side of the screen (including the numbers/symbols etc) and you scroll down to "D" and it only displays channels starting with D. The problem is you have to click OK on the D (D on band down the side) to move the cursor to the list. When you do it takes off to the first channel on the list (the highlighted one) and never gives you a chance to move down a couple and select the one you want.

It also does this when you select a "Favorite" category. If you select "Movies" or "News" it'll take off to the last channel viewed in that category. In the satellite setup menu it tries to move to every single satellite in the list as you scroll past them to get to sat #10! It's a total battle unless you shut off the Gbox and turn it back on to store a sat. You can't do it from your recliner, you have to get a chair and sit right in front of it because you're going to need to cancel a few dozen times. Mr Fanf, the firmware programmer is going to add a menu option to fix this. It will be "Select By Highlight" or "Select By OK". It may work ok on a fixed dish but it bites on a motorized dish. Being able to "Select By OK" will make this a near perfect receiver, so much so that I can't really think of another problem beside the lack of clear step-by-step instructions for things like DLNA and SAT2IP, things that are new to me and a lot of people.
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Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
Thanks to Fitch Ratings ( who gives the ratings on Credit and debt, as approved by the SEC, so they have accurate numbers) we have the totals.

DIRECTV's video subscriber base is the third-largest traditional multi-channel video programming distributor (MVPD) in the U.S. with about 8.2 million subscribers at the end of 1Q26.

The last time it was reported, it was 8.8M at the end of 2Q25, so only a 600,000 loss for 3 quarters, which is a major improvement, since for many years before that, it was losing 500,000 a quarter, 2 Million a year.

It is now losing less than Dish/Sling combined, I believe the Genre Packs are helping to retain and get subscribers.

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raoul5788
They have one less as of May 15th. I just couldn't justify almost $150 a month any more. I went to Fubo. Edit: And I've been a Directv customer for 30 years!
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They have one less as of May 15th. I just couldn't justify almost $150 a month any more. I went to Fubo.
Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:
  • NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.
  • NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.
  • Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.
  • A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.
  • AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv
Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.
Jimbo
Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:
  • NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.
  • NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.
  • Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.
  • A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.
  • AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv
Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.
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raoul5788
Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:
  • NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.
  • NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.
  • Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.
  • A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.
  • AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv
Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.
Understandable. It's always a choice of price vs channels. The $60/month difference made my choice easier.
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YTTV don't carry the Regional sports channels
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YTTV don't carry the Regional sports channels
It does still carry the NBC Sports branded RSN's, but obviously in those limited markets...
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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
Recently came back to DirectTV Satellite service and have two boxes, Gemini and a main HR54.

DirecTV is charging me two "TV access fees" of $10 each, but can only watch TV on the one without the server. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
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FHSPSU67
First receiver should be free. It is for me.
b4pjoe
First receiver should be free. It is for me.
It is for me too. Back when they merged DIRECTV via Internet and DIRECTV Stream into one service they raised the TV access fee from $7.00 to $10.00 from both streaming and satellite and they eliminated the first receiver free for new customers only. Existing customers weren't affected by the new price and the elimination of the first receiver free policy.
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It is for me too. Back when they merged DIRECTV via Internet and DIRECTV Stream into one service they raised the TV access fee from $7.00 to $10.00 from both streaming and satellite and they eliminated the first receiver free for new customers only. Existing customers weren't affected by the new price and the elimination of the first receiver free policy.
All of this makes me want to cancel satellite again! Customer service said we were getting billed for an old receiver but the call got cut off.

Will call back and try to get this resolved. As of now, only one TV can access satellite service. Would hope they can send another Gemini to be co-located w the main HR54.
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Update: after 20 mins on phone with a non North American call center agent, they are sending a tech out. The tech support couldn't understand that the HR54 was at a different TV than the Gemini.
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Update: after 20 mins on phone with a non North American call center agent, they are sending a tech out. The tech support couldn't understand that the HR54 was at a different TV than the Gemini.
this is why we canceled support and the csr's are garbage even the american ones. it's still under the att system!!!
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Heart Of Gold - Neil Young
zippyfrog
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone
I feel like this was discussed in another thread, but I can't find it. I have T-Mobile and my last iPhone upgrade was in 2020. I want to get a new iPhone, but what is the best way to go about doing it? Should I order the iPhone from T-Mobile directly, or should I buy from the Apple Store? I feel like there are pros/cons to each option.
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navychop
I know of no reason to buy from a cell company.

Buying from Apple gets an unlocked phone.

PS- New models come out in Octoberish.
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I got a carrier-locked iPhone once, and it was a pain after they got bought by Sprint and I decided to go to T-Mobile and they dragged their feet to unlock the phone. I have been trading in my iPhones since and buying from the Apple Store since then.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I have a Hopper with Sling. (Don't know exact model.) A couple nights ago, I went into the DVR screen, and noted that it was recording three programs. Yet I was able to view live TV (that was not one of the channels being recorded.) Did something change? In the past, it would only let me watch one of the channels being recorded, or any recording in the DVR menu. Maybe it was streaming, although there was no indication of that?

Apologies if this has been covered; I searched and didn't find anything.

Thanks.
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So I tested.

Started recording three non-network shows and tried to watch live TV, would not do it, because all three tuners were in use.

Started recording two non-network shows and one network show. Still would not let me tune live TV.

Started recording one non-network show and two network shows, then it allowed live TV.

I would assume then that previously I was recording two or three network shows when it allowed live TV; I honestly don't remember what it was doing, and I didn't think to check.

Thanks for replies, everyone.

PS - How does one know whether a program is streaming? Is there a way to force streaming?
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So I tested.

Started recording three non-network shows and tried to watch live TV, would not do it, because all three tuners were in use.

Started recording two non-network shows and one network show. Still would not let me tune live TV.

Started recording one non-network show and two network shows, then it allowed live TV.

I would assume then that previously I was recording two or three network shows when it allowed live TV; I honestly don't remember what it was doing, and I didn't think to check.

Thanks for replies, everyone.

PS - How does one know whether a program is streaming? Is there a way to force streaming?
There is no way to force streaming. It is a satellite channel or streaming channel except for the rare occasion that the satellite signal fails. If that happens some, not all, channels will automatically change to streaming. You can tell if the channel is streaming by pressing guide on the remote. if it is a streaming channel the guide will clearly show it that way.
navychop
Cough, cough, Hopper3!
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There is no way to force streaming. It is a satellite channel or streaming channel except for the rare occasion that the satellite signal fails. If that happens some, not all, channels will automatically change to streaming. You can tell if the channel is streaming by pressing guide on the remote. if it is a streaming channel the guide will clearly show it that way.
Thanks, Bobby.
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chokes hopper 3 all the way... 16 tuners vs 3 tuners is a night and day difference. along with a faster processor. i would call in and see if they would upgrade me or you can buy a hopper 3 from solid signal.
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Smuuth
Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Classifieds

WANTED  DirecTV LCC

Anyone have a DirecTV Local Channel Connector that you'd like to get rid of at a reasonable price? DirecTV is currently in a contract dispute with owner of my local ABC affiliate.
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b4pjoe
Anyone have a DirecTV Local Channel Connector that you'd like to get rid of at a reasonable price? DirecTV is currently in a contract dispute with owner of my local ABC affiliate.
You should ask DIRECTV for one if you are affected by the dispute. I know in the past they have given them out during a dispute. Not sure if they still do that but it is free to ask.
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You should ask DIRECTV for one if you are affected by the dispute. I know in the past they have given them out during a dispute. Not sure if they still do that but it is free to ask.
I already asked, but the CS agent said they wouldn't do it. They said the only thing they could do is $10/month bill credit.
Jimbo
I already asked, but the CS agent said they wouldn't do it. They said the only thing they could do is $10/month bill credit.
Take the $10 and Call Back ...
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Take the $10 and Call Back ...
I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results. 🤬
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I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results. 🤬
Could be out of them I guess ... I'd keep trying, every 3-4 days.

If they are not out of them as them WHY you can't get one, seeing Your in a Dispute. Thats what they are for.
I would make them give you a real answer, don't let them off the hook.


I had one, and it worked well, but I believe I gave it to another D* friend (also had a AM21), I know I gave them away ...
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Could be out of them I guess ... I'd keep trying, every 3-4 days.

If they are not out of them as them WHY you can't get one, seeing Your in a Dispute. Thats what they are for.
According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit. 🙄
Jimbo
According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit. 🙄
I'm not sure your going to find any Refurbished ones as D* doesn't ask for them back.
Smuuth
I'm not sure your going to find any Refurbished ones as D* doesn't ask for them back.
Yeah, I know. At one point, I even had 3 AM21s but gave them away when I got rid of my last HR54 and switched to the HS17.
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Good luck they haven't made them in years. you could poke around on ebay and see if there's any on there. if not why not a tablo or a zapper box with an antenna connected to it
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Smuuth
Good luck they haven't made them in years. you could poke around on ebay and see if there's any on there. if not why not a tablo or a zapper box with an antenna connected to it
I have my OTA antenna connected to my television directly already so watching is not the issue. The reason I want the LCC is so I could record programs if I'm not at home to watch them live, especially since ABC is carrying both the NBA and NHL playoffs.
I have an active search on eBay and there is one there but he wants $180 plus shipping and I am not going to pay that.
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I have my OTA antenna connected to my television directly already so watching is not the issue. The reason I want the LCC is so I could record programs if I'm not at home to watch them live, especially since ABC is carrying both the NBA and NHL playoffs.
I have an active search on eBay and there is one there but he wants $180 plus shipping and I am not going to pay that.
a tablo box is cheaper
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why invest in hardware that's going to be boat anchors in a few years?
zippyfrog
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
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Does cable charge box rent?
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Does cable charge box rent?
The cable company I was with years ago did charge $9.99 for a receiver.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
I went to try to add the Heartland channel as dummy to see what it would do for me as I own my receiver and have DISH Outdoors and this is what mine shows. (Note however I had to take the 2nd receiver I told you I added the other day off because I was told you can only have 1 receiver when you have a one outlet on the Dish Playmaker and was having issues with the 2nd receiver and I didn't know that and that was done yesterday as well so I am back to one receiver.)

Let's upgrade your package.

Your monthly bill will increase by $6.00 per month.

Breakdown

June 11, 2026 - July 11, 2026
You are changing your programming in the middle of the bill cycle. The bill shown below is your bill for next month including prorations and credits. Your following bill will return to the fixed rate. This bill will take effect from now until July 11, 2026.
Monthly Services
$86.99

Flex Pack
$72.99
Local Channels
$14.00
Add-Ons
$68.98

National Action Pack
$12.00
Regional Action Pack
$12.00
News Pack
$10.00
Paramount+ with Showtime
$10.00
Drama and Classics Pack
$6.00
Heartland Pack
$6.00
Starz Encore Movies
$6.00
On DISH Magazine
$4.99
Starz 2 Mo ($11)
$1.99
Prorated Charges
$7.93

Heartland Pack Jun 11 - Jul 20
$7.93
Order Total
$7.93

Prorated Total
$7.93
Due Today
$7.93

Transition Bill Total
$156.10
Proposed Changes

Your monthly bill will increase by $6.00 per month
Monthly Services
$86.99
Add-Ons
$68.98
FCC Regulatory Surcharge
$0.13
Taxes & Surcharges
$0.00

Monthly Total
$156.10
Prorated Total
$7.93
Order Total
$7.93

Due Today
$7.93

Sounds like an issue with DISH Billing

RJ T.
From Illinois

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I asked again, and the rep I talked to said it is a glitch and that "Access for TV" shouldn't be there - the rep pulled up my future month bills and that charge isn't on it. So I am not going to worry about it right now, but it will be interesting to see when the price changes happen later this year. Will this line item show up? The fact that it is a specific item that is different from anything makes me think it is more than a glitch. But we shall see.
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I asked again, and the rep I talked to said it is a glitch and that "Access for TV" shouldn't be there - the rep pulled up my future month bills and that charge isn't on it. So I am not going to worry about it right now, but it will be interesting to see when the price changes happen later this year. Will this line item show up? The fact that it is a specific item that is different from anything makes me think it is more than a glitch. But we shall see.
I am hoping they don't add this down the road. Things are expensive the way it is now. Even DIRECTV allows the first receiver free. This would go against DISH and DISH is already loosing subscribers I wouldn't think they would do these kind of tricks but you never know. Always look at your bills for unknow charges. I heard horror stories of people getting charged for things they didn't know were there.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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Does cable charge box rent?
yes big cable charges crazy dvr fee's and box rental fee's
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Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
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Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
First off, great TV. I'm torn between the 77C5 or the 77G5.
It sounds like the handshake between the Receiver and the TV is having a problem. Are you using the free cable that came with the Joey or a higher speed HDMI cable?? That's the f irst place I'd look
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Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
First off, The analog to digital switch, also known as the digital television transition, is the process of converting older analog television broadcasting technology to digital broadcasting. It's used through coaxial cable for the an antenna during the mandatory switch from Analog to Digital on June 12, 2009. You either had to get a converter for your analog (Tube TV) or use a converter box that has the analog or digital tuner or an HDTV which your is and has the tuner built in. Your TV is HD and using an HDMI Cable and nothing is connected by coaxial cable so this wouldn't apply.

In my theory it probably means a new TV. I had a TV go out on my switching between the Smart Screen from the HDMI inputs before because they went faulty. Sometimes electrical surges can cause this. If you have an older home or rent an older home or apartment sometimes the electrical outlets are not grounded and these days HDTV's need a ground which can cause them to malfunction and go bad quicker. Never plug it directly in an outlet. It will damage the TV.

Hope I could be of some assistance.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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First off, The analog to digital switch, also known as the digital television transition, is the process of converting older analog television broadcasting technology to digital broadcasting. It's used through coaxial cable for the an antenna during the mandatory switch from Analog to Digital on June 12, 2009. You either had to get a converter for your analog (Tube TV) or use a converter box that has the analog or digital tuner or an HDTV which your is and has the tuner built in. Your TV is HD and using an HDMI Cable and nothing is connected by coaxial cable so this wouldn't apply.

In my theory it probably means a new TV. I had a TV go out on my switching between the Smart Screen from the HDMI inputs before because they went faulty. Sometimes electrical surges can cause this. If you have an older home or rent an older home or apartment sometimes the electrical outlets are not grounded and these days HDTV's need a ground which can cause them to malfunction and go bad quicker. Never plug it directly in an outlet. It will damage the TV.

Hope I could be of some assistance.

RJ T.
From Illinois
Thank you for the information. I do keep the TV plugged into a surge protector, but we have had pretty strong thunderstorms/lightning in the last month so that have contributed to my problem.The house was built in 2009 so everything seems to be grounded correctly. We have had a power surge also. Seems like no one fixes anything any more, so just get a new one or live with the problem. Thanks
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First off, great TV. I'm torn between the 77C5 or the 77G5.
It sounds like the handshake between the Receiver and the TV is having a problem. Are you using the free cable that came with the Joey or a higher speed HDMI cable?? That's the f irst place I'd look
I think the HDMI cable is good, i used one of my own from my 4K atmos system, i'll switch it with another just to check. Also I have a bid in at Greentoe for 77" G5. Thanks
HipKat
I think the HDMI cable is good, i used one of my own from my 4K atmos system, i'll switch it with another just to check. Also I have a bid in at Greentoe for 77" G5. Thanks
I hope that works. I'm waiting til Black Friday sales
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I've had this problem with my older Sony TV. It happens when I just punch in a regular channel number. The only way it works right for me is to push guide and select a regular channel from the guide screen.
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House of the Dragon, the prequel to Game of Thrones, premieres on HBO Max on 8/21. I will be warching



View: https://youtu.be/fNwwt25mheo


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That was as bad as the rest of the show. Jean Smart was mostly invisible.
Jim S.
I prefer the trailer for the movie adaptation of Mario Kart. At least that had Pedro Pascal in it.
harshness
"A new line of unsullied kings" would seem impossible given the GoT definition of "unsullied". :biggrin
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