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I dug out a heavier duty Von Weise actuator I had stored after my lighter duty Von Weise stripped the acme nut. I glued the magnets back in and put a lot of work in it. It seems the acme nut was about gone because I did clean and grease it good. I just set up a Freesat V7 and a V8 Super and that did it in.

I've been over at Von Weise reading the descriptions of the actuators. The one for $199, the drawing says 33" retracted and 24" extended. That's not right! Then the $269 one says 33" retracted and 57" extended, that's right. Both are 24" stroke with reed switches.

I'd rather not spend $225 on a new one but I'm tired of messing with it and I can fix this one later. They have acme nuts for $20 but they want $20 to ship it and I can get a whole actuator shipped for $25, go figure.

I'm just tired of working on stuff!!!!! I had shoulder surgery and am behind on everything and it's been one thing after the other it seems. The car, the bedroom TV quit, actuator, lawn tractor, the Jeep and now the actuator again. I stayed up late to get the V8 Super programmed because I need to be doing other things, I'm sure you know how that goes.

I used Google cache to display this, otherwise you have to download it.

It lists a tube only which would get me going if it fits my motor but I expect it to cost too much, might as well get a new one. Do you guys know anything about it or the cost? #25 on the list.

25 6Z091 n/a V00212AK76 58.8 34.8 24 n/a n/a 14.0 lbs Tube

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...ecrossreference.xls+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

When I Google 6Z091 I get this which I assume is a photo of the tube only, but it could be for representation only and it's no longer available.

https://www.grainger.com/product/DAYTON-Tube-6Z091


Then they have this for $199, the one that's listed wrong in the drawing or I think it is, has to be.

DC Actuator 36 VDC, Full Load Speed 11 inches/minute, Gear Ration 19:1, Full Load Thurst 600 lbs, 1/15 HP, Current @ Full Load 3 Amps, Reed Switch. Substitute for Dayton 5A651.

http://estore.vonweise.com/vw7636vdcactuator-1.aspx

This one is $269.

Solar Panel/Satellite DC Actuator with Telescoping Tube Assembly. 24-36 VDC 1/15 HP Bidirectional Permanent Magnet Input Motor. 600 lbs. Full Load Thrust. Linear Velocity at Full Load Thrust 6.8 – 11.0 in/min. with 24 Inch Linear Stroke. Reed Switch Feedback Control. Limit Switches for overall stoke control. Enclosure Totally Enclosed Non-Ventilated. 19:1 Gearbox Ratio.

http://estore.vonweise.com/v76-5actuatorwithtelescopingtube.aspx


This one is $229 and not too clear on the details on length etc.

Solar Panel/Satellite DC Actuator with Telescoping Tube Assembly. 36 VDC 1/15 HP Bidirectional Permanent Magnet Input Motor. 300 lbs. Full Load Thrust. Linear Velocity at Full Load Thrust 11.0 in/min with 24 Inch Linear Stroke. Reed Switch Feedback Control. Limit Switches for Overall Stoke Control. Enclosure Totally Enclosed Non-Ventilated. 28:1 Gearbox Ratio

http://estore.vonweise.com/vw-24lcactuatorwithtelescopingtube.aspx


I've read a lot of bad, bad, things about the cheaper Super Jacks and the Maxi or whatever it's called, I forget. I've also read the thread on acme nut repair and I have a dremel but not a welder. I'd like to get it going cheap but I'll just buy a new one if I have to. I'm pooped and wanna watch TV, not work on it until Christmas.

I glued the magnets back in this motor and made a magnet wheel for it and converted it to a reed switch. It has been running great but I worry about the motor magnets, brushes etc and I want to be done with this. I hate to pay $20 for an acme nut and $20 to ship it (wow), then have the motor quit and end up buying a new one anyway, after installing a $40 acme nut in this one.

So, you are the guys to ask for certain, which of these is the right one or is that tube affordable?

I want my MTV (METV)! ;)
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I am getting 4000 count's per drive (arc) on the ajax 110 degree move; this is pretty fast compared to the 8000+ counts on the von weisse 8 magnet wheel. They both are considered fast counting; or a fast counting mechanism; as is a little dish motor; i would say the von weisse was my deal with the better days; there were lots of them to put in; in the 90's. No different today; they are a slower moving unit; finer threaded than the rest. If you want; a von weisse can even count well enough to follow the sun; or robot a table that is heavy. I have just the arm as a gate mechanism when it is frozen solid in rust from the coastal weathers the west has I put those into a pile. Yes, the link works; von weisse themselves is fine with me. Thanks for your links.

Each of the different sizes are power structured language; that is how strong a mechanism it is. Amps drawn as a load is also shown if you take each arm; or mechanism; then say a 3 ampere draw is the amps during strokes operation; and the controller must be able to supply it as very perfect amps; and count it perfectly every distance it travels. The clamping or startup of the motor value (say 5-10 amps) is also into it's sizes; and the controller must supply it also. So the bigger motors are only made by tesla today. I used two sizes of the von weisse because that is what they designed for satellite dish controller's in the 90's; and one was stronger in strength (bigger) than the other. In the 80's; they made the older optical Uniden line controller motor arm's/actuators. Optical counter's went up to 10,000 counts per full drive to both limits. Some controllers could not position as fine as the unidens did; and the arms lasted a long time. The problem in opticals of its day was if any light got into the motors case; it will miscount; today they have it miniturized and sealed with black plastic so no light enters it; on the little dish motors. This is also why if you hook both a c band motor; and a little ku band motor to the same controller; they move un-similarly in the arc; or amount of movement per count; which is how fine the dish is moving and how perfectly it can position itself.

Parts are hard to find these days for each different motor; except by the original manufacturer. I am looking for an armature; the part that spins after the voltage is supplied; in this case; the same dc controller; a v box; g box is designed for. It is a worm geared drive on the armature; a very weird one on the ajax mount; and i have no jig yet that can grind the arms of the armature flat again; going to try to free hand it with a drill, but i have no margin as the bearing sagged the wear mark right at the outside of the armatures where it is plugged into the many armature wires. It also is housed magnetically to the case which cannot be "removed" for any fixing (really weird)...nobody else makes this type anymore. But yes; the von weisse will count the best new today; put on the von weisse and re-program; or re-actuate all them channels; that will be a new mount in my case; actuator brand new too. For precisest movements; the counts per inch matter; and optical grade is how USALS works "so fine". Todays satellite signals really are very finely moved to also.
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The V00212AT76 - VW76 is the one I bought and it only has four magnets. I converted my old optical Von Weise to a magnet wheel and made the wheel and everything. It had 6 slots in the optical wheel so I put 6 magnets on the wheel. The new one has room to glue 8 of my smaller magnets on it and I believe I'm going to try that.

It will position just fine and it doesn't miss a count but it's real hard to get it to count by 1. When bumping it up from 336 it hits 338 every time until you really try then you'll eventually hit 337. The 6 magnet wheel had no problem at all counting by 1 and it didn't miscount. Some of the Ku band is just 1 count off from the C and I know they should be exact but that's the nature of the C/Ku combo LNBFs. Since I can't store a C/Ku sat in the same position and have to use two slots and I have to set them 1 apart even if they seem to be in the exact same position. An 8 count wheel will give me 3 positions that are so close together they'd fall within a 2 count with the 4 magnet wheel and I'd be able to nail them every time.

I've been realigning the sats in the Gbox and it's a pain not being able to share positions between sats. It'd be nice of the receiver would let you put SES-3 and SES-3 Ku on position 22, but it's one sat to a position. There isn't any way to store a whole sat (both bands) in one position. This is why I need to be able to count by 1 and for aiming in general. Actually now that they're in there it's not so bad but if I want to adjust a sat by 1 I have to go through the east/west/east/west thing until I hit 337.

I've been realigning the dish to track the arc better and have needed a 1 count a lot of times. It was off a little bit and then I went the wrong way when adjusting the dish (at the dish) and it was off a lot, but I went back and changed it back the other way plus another 1/2 turn and almost nailed it. Now I need to get my wife to help me do the west sat/south sat/west sat/south sat etc again and get it exact.

I think the pole may have tilted a hair in 12 years or maybe the sats have that much of a finer beam but the sats were a tad up from where the dish was tracking, 1/2 to 3/4 turn or so. Anyway, now when I get dead on it with the Gbox it's off maybe 1/4 inch. When I pull the dish down the signal goes from 79 to 82 for instance. I don't pull it much, one finger and not a lot of pressure. I tuned 95W Ku, the last channel on it from 39 to 46 so that's a good improvement since I started. It isn't off much but I want it dead on.

We put the house cordless phone on intercom and she tells me when it's peaked. Tomorrow we'll get it finished, last night we had to be at a funeral so we had to stop before we were done. The one count problem arose first when re-positioning all of the sats because the count was different from 6 to 4 magnets and again when I was pinpointing a sat adjusting the declination. First you have to make sure you on it east/west with the Gbox, then up and down when adjusting the dish. After you start getting it very close the sats will shift a count east or west. Once I get it tracking the arc perfectly then I'll just do a recalculation and everything will be inline. I get confused, but I think it's if you're having to lower the dish you'll have to shift it east by 1 or 2 when you get it adjusted right.

My dish was tracking the arc a hair too low then I lowered it instead of raising it and now it's too high and I have to lower it a hair. I'll get it but after going through all of this I sure wish it would count by 1. That's why I'm thinking I should convert it to an 8 magnet wheel as soon as I am done adjusting the dish. Then I'd have to re-position all of the sats again because of the different count but I'd be set until it wears out. I don't know what Von Weise charges for an 8 magnet wheel. I might email them and ask but they want $20 just to ship an acme nut and I can't see paying $40 for a wheel when I can just change the magnets on this one. These small N42 or N52 magnets will fit on the factory wheel just fine.

So that's where I'm at with the new actuator. I love it but it has a hard time counting by one with a Gbox and it would make programming sats or adjusting the dish or anything you do easier. Once you get everything programmed in it really wouldn't matter much but an 8 magnet wheel would be really nice for next time, like when we get new 4K receivers and have to make a list from scratch again! ;).
armadillo_115
Yankee495...does your Gbox not count by one when using the Gbox remote?

I have a generic Vbox. Positioning with the receiver moves 2 counts...but positioning with the Vbox remote moves it by single counts. While setting/resetting a Sat position in my LinkBox 9000i menu...I found that I can use the Vbox remote to move by only 1 count if needed. Then I can 'Set' the position on the receiver screen.

I also use the Vbox remote to fine tune a channel while watching. Often it works but sometimes the receiver pulls it right back to the 'Set' position. The receiver and I can get it a sparring match.:fencing
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Yankee495...does your Gbox not count by one when using the Gbox remote?

I have a generic Vbox. Positioning with the receiver moves 2 counts...but positioning with the Vbox remote moves it by single counts. While setting/resetting a Sat position in my LinkBox 9000i menu...I found that I can use the Vbox remote to move by only 1 count if needed. Then I can 'Set' the position on the receiver screen.

I also use the Vbox remote to fine tune a channel while watching. Often it works but sometimes the receiver pulls it right back to the 'Set' position. The receiver and I can get it a sparring match.:fencing
I've had that happen, especially with my Amiko Mini HD SE. When I use the Vbox7 remote to fine tune the Amiko wants to motor back to the stored position before I can save. Really annoying... o_O
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Yankee495...does your Gbox not count by one when using the Gbox remote?

I have a generic Vbox. Positioning with the receiver moves 2 counts...but positioning with the Vbox remote moves it by single counts. While setting/resetting a Sat position in my LinkBox 9000i menu...I found that I can use the Vbox remote to move by only 1 count if needed. Then I can 'Set' the position on the receiver screen.

I also use the Vbox remote to fine tune a channel while watching. Often it works but sometimes the receiver pulls it right back to the 'Set' position. The receiver and I can get it a sparring match.:fencing


No, it doesn't help to use the remote, it still counts by two. I have a feeling the 4 magnet setup is the cause. The magnets are in a north/south polarization setup, every other one being opposite, two north and two south. I think the 8 magnet conversion is as easy as removing the ones that are in it and putting in the much smaller ones. The ones in it are about the size of a dime and the ones I'm going to put in it are about the size of a pencil eraser, maybe a little bigger. I did know the size in mm but I forgot and am too lazy to look it up. I have so much crap in my head that some gets pushed out when I try to cram something else in! There is a thread here about it.

Anyway, the original magnets are so big that they eat up the space between them but my really small magnets will fit fine. I see no reason why it wouldn't just work but if I didn't they'd be easy to remove because I use rubber cement. It holds them in real good but is a bit pliable and peels out real easy. I hate the thought of re-positioning the sats again but it wouldn't be so bad if I didn't have to battle the Gbox over position count.

And, I don't think anything if worse than this V8 Super when it comes to the dish taking off. It moves to the highlighted sat or channel in at least 3 important situations. They are: in the satellite setup menu, when you select a favorite folder or when you use the Rolodex search feature.

I have never seen the Rolodex search feature in a receiver. You hit OK to bring up the list then you click the blue button (it shows Blue box A-Z on screen). That brings up an alphabetical list on the right side of the screen (including the numbers/symbols etc) and you scroll down to "D" and it only displays channels starting with D. The problem is you have to click OK on the D (D on band down the side) to move the cursor to the list. When you do it takes off to the first channel on the list (the highlighted one) and never gives you a chance to move down a couple and select the one you want.

It also does this when you select a "Favorite" category. If you select "Movies" or "News" it'll take off to the last channel viewed in that category. In the satellite setup menu it tries to move to every single satellite in the list as you scroll past them to get to sat #10! It's a total battle unless you shut off the Gbox and turn it back on to store a sat. You can't do it from your recliner, you have to get a chair and sit right in front of it because you're going to need to cancel a few dozen times. Mr Fanf, the firmware programmer is going to add a menu option to fix this. It will be "Select By Highlight" or "Select By OK". It may work ok on a fixed dish but it bites on a motorized dish. Being able to "Select By OK" will make this a near perfect receiver, so much so that I can't really think of another problem beside the lack of clear step-by-step instructions for things like DLNA and SAT2IP, things that are new to me and a lot of people.
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Anyone making their own breakfast sausage? I've recently been trying different recipes, found some I like, some I've modified...
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Hmmm. Reason to get another toy for the KitchenAid.

Is it cheaper than store bought?

Is fresh or dried sage used?

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navychop
So do you use the plastic or metal sausage grinder? I'm assuming you use a mixer. I'm looking at attachments for my Kitchenaid.
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So do you use the plastic or metal sausage grinder? I'm assuming you use a mixer. I'm looking at attachments for my Kitchenaid.
i have a cabelas carnivore 1 HP grinder worth the $$$ if you have it. i fried to many kitchenaids to count. ofcourse it was the el cheapo model
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made some chicken parm sausages and some bacon cheeseburger sausages and smoked whiskey bacon sausages
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Hmmm. Reason to get another toy for the KitchenAid.

Is it cheaper than store bought?

Is fresh or dried sage used?

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Who cares if it's cheaper than store bought. you do realize that ground beef is like hot dogs right lips and a**holes!!! you have no idea whats in it and what animal came from what carcass right :what.
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It has been years since I had some good country breakfast sausage. Each time I find some at a meat market I try it, but I go back to ordinary Jimmy Dean's breakfast sausage. My last try was from Fresh Market. For some reason it always ended up hard like they did not have enough fat in it.
navychop
Bob Evans Sage.
TheRatPatrol
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
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I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.
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I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.
I'm curious how they are going to implement Tony into Origins (If they do) ...
Tony was introduced to Gibbs and the team, on NCIS, which makes it the Mothership side of things, he worked in Baltimore prior to NCIS, NO mention when they met that anyone had known one another ...
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Smoke On The Water - Deep Purple
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Smoke! Smoke! Smoke! (That Cigarette) -- Tex Williams
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Don't Do Me Like That - Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
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I LIKE It LIKE THAT-The Dave Clark Five
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Five O'Clock World - The Vogues
Anony55
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Nebugeater
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
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Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.
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Nebugeater
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.


Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Anony55
Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.
dishstaller
Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
Anony55
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
It hasn't changed. When I cancelled my service the other day, they told me I didn't need to return the receiver (which I already knew because I purchased it).

But in addition to that, the young man told me not to sell it, but to take it to a recycling place. The reason he gave for the advice was because 211Ks can no longer be activated.

So as far as the VIP211k goes... once grandpa dies, he's dead.
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They tell you to trash it and not to sell simply because they're phasing them out, not particularly because someone might be "confused" into buying it and not be able to activate. They tell people that in every case where they're not acting to get a box back, either from a replacement or service cancel.
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Corrado
Although my VIP211K hasn't been subscribed or connected to a dish in probably 5 years since canceling service, my 1 TB HDD full of programming still works fine.

Upon occasion I power it up to watch something I recorded as far back as 2010. The last time I had it going in September it even let me rescan the local OTA channels which I think it refused at some earlier time. I will use it until the day it fails but this topic makes me think some software download is responsible for current subscribers.
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zippyfrog
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Has anyone subscribed to NBA League Pass for 2026-27 and try to link their account to NBA.com to stream League Pass? I purchased it for 2026-27, and when I linked, I got a message saying success, but then I receive an error that my linked subscription does not include the preseason games for NBA League Pass. Is that how it has always been? I know satellite doesn't have the preseason games on the NBA League Pass channels, but I thought that I was able to stream the preseason once I linked my account on NBA.com?
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zippyfrog
I found my answer...when I log into the NBA app on my phone and try to watch, it gives me a more clear answer that it acknowledges I have paid for NBA League Pass from Dish and it is linked, but I need an "upgraded" subscription to League Pass for the preseason games. So I guess it is by design that Dish does not show the preseason games on League pass and that the contract Dish has signed for league pass is explicitly for the regular season games. (I know the description for League Pass says regular season games, but I thought that was only by satellite and the preseason would have worked)
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Darrell S
I plan on doing what I did last season. I ordered the more expensive arena feed version from the NBA website. It's worth it because you get to watch what's going on in the arena instead of just staring at the ad break slide on the Dish version. The main advantage to ordering from the website is you can go on a month by month basis and cancel if you get tired of it.
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Ramy
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
AZ.
AZ.
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
Jimbo
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...
AZ.
AZ.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....
Jimbo
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....
Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...
Edit, Bama plays 4, Georgia plays 3, But Ole Miss plays 5 (didn't expect to see that)

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.
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Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.
Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?
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Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?
Seeing theres very little activity in the MLB threads, it wouldn't matter if I posted that the Astros didn't make the Playoffs ...

Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.
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Jimbo
IF they go to 24 teams, and it looks like they will soon ....
Do we Really want Teams with 3 and 4 losses in the Playoffs ?
Is a 3-4 Loss team one thats able to win 4-5 more games against Top teams ?
Y
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.
A 12 team playoff net should catch any undefeated team. The 12 team playoff also exposed that rankings suck. I mean, we kind of knew already that the rankings weren't particularly reproducible, but we now have the empirical evidence that the rankings suck because judging who is the best among a mickey mouse scheduled football season isn't a rational endeavor. So the 12 team playoff ensures most teams that should make it, do, including the mid-major undefeated team. 8 teams should be able to work as well, but puts greater risk at OSU and Alabama missing the playoff... can't have that.

Which is the run up to my main problem with the 24 team set up is that it is designed to keep the OSU's and Alabama's from missing the playoff. The cartels are ensuring widespread participation for their own cartels to increase the monetary reward to themselves. It is fixing the system while not fixing the outcomes, merely making the regular season game outcomes virtually irrelevant. Sure, a bye for winning the conference would be nice, but we've already seen that byes aren't that influential.
We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
That is college football in a nutshell. Again, college football isn't about competition, it is about revenue. The entire setup is about making money, from regular season squash games against local jobbers like the WWF days to tax exempt bowl games.

And to add to the first world woes, the college football cartels have made being a College Football fan even more expensive... so they can get paid more.
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Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.

Nah, you just don't understand how ignore works, which is why you made your own NFL thread thinking there wasn't one 🤣
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
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wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
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I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

Not likely since that place closed down.
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Not likely since that place closed down.
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